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http://www.torontosun.com/2016/04/23/doctors-rally-outside-queens-park
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TORONTO - Remember that roughly $6.6 million billed by an ophthalmologist that health minister Eric Hoskins highlighted on Friday?

Dr. Nadia Alam wants you to know that all that money didn’t just go to one single doctor.

That is a group practice that works together, that bills under one lead physician,” she explained on Saturday. “He’s taken it completely out of context.”

Alam joined hundreds of other physicians and supporters outside Queens Park for a weekend rally to protest cuts to health care that they say will harm patients and shut down clinics.

Many found (Hoskins’) words disrespectful, divisive, manipulative, infuriating,” Alam said. “Why? Because physicians saw the political spin for the desperate lie it was.”

A day before the protest, Hoskins rolled out numbers indicating the highest billing doctors in Ontario, saying around 2% of the province’s physicians were responsible for almost 10% of all payments.

Figures he produced include an ophthalmologist who billed more than $6.6 million and a diagnostic radiologist who billed more than $5.1 million.

“What it says to me is we need a new collective approach to how physicians are compensated,” said Hoskins on Friday.

But Alam, a family doctor from Georgetown, says those figures simply reflect doctors caring for patients.

“I know of an obstetrician who is billing a significant amount because he works 70 hours a week and he has done so for 35 years, he is the only obstetrician for a city of 70,000,” she said.
 
医生要拿到行医执照很难,而且这里的大部分医生是很辛苦的。安省已经缺医生了!看医生难约,约specialist看病更是要等很长时间(有的要一年)。医生多做一点多拿一点,也要交税的。何况人家多工作,病人可以等的时间少一点,大家都受益啊。支持医生维护自己的权益!安省自由党政府浪费了那么多纳税人的钱,到处克扣经费填自己造成的窟窿,可恶!
 
说6.6M是断章取义, 那么到底是几个医生的bill呢? 片面强调是一个group是不是又有misleading之嫌? 一个group可以是2个人, 也可以是100个人.
 
说6.6M是断章取义, 那么到底是几个医生的bill呢? 片面强调是一个group是不是又有misleading之嫌? 一个group可以是2个人, 也可以是100个人.
眼科医生的overhead cost很贵的,那么多医疗仪器和设备都要折旧和维护。看见过一个眼科group有四个医生、四个assistant、好多个护士和前台的秘书,应该还有清洁工、财务等等。现在青光眼看医生、动手术看平均等待时间一年。有人一只眼睛由于没有得到及时治疗瞎了,另一只眼睛也开始不行了,只有五十几岁,将来日子怎么过呀?真的不能削减医疗费用,否则轮到谁都倒霉啊!
 
这些医生并不是只能在安省工作,人家哪里都能看病人,很多医生到美国去了。加拿大每年的医学院名额是限定的,就那么多医生。把人家逼走了,还是病人自己倒霉啊。每个人都会老,都会有一天要看医生,谁愿意病情被耽误呢?政府愿意花钱请难民进来,为什么不可以给各省多拨一点款做医疗费用呢?安省自由党政府在核电站和电力公司上浪费了几十亿加元,为什么要克扣医疗费用呢?订的地方不对吧?!
 
培养医生真那么难吗?名额真要限制那么少吗?
 
培养医生真那么难吗?名额真要限制那么少吗?
曾经也问过这个问题,得到的回答是每年医学院的招生名额都是政府限定的,不可以多招人。而且医学院学生的学费,国家是有补贴的。
 
这些医生并不是只能在安省工作,人家哪里都能看病人,很多医生到美国去了。加拿大每年的医学院名额是限定的,就那么多医生。把人家逼走了,还是病人自己倒霉啊。每个人都会老,都会有一天要看医生,谁愿意病情被耽误呢?政府愿意花钱请难民进来,为什么不可以给各省多拨一点款做医疗费用呢?安省自由党政府在核电站和电力公司上浪费了几十亿加元,为什么要克扣医疗费用呢?订的地方不对吧?!
EXACTLY!!
A lot of Doctors from China have passed MEDICAL examination here in Ontario, BUT they CANNOT find intern, hence CAN never practise as doctor (Ontario Liberal has reduced that intern number), most of them can only work at HEALTH Canada to review medical documents, what a waste of talents!!!
 
把数据摆明面上, Drs 每周工作了多少小时, 从政府那又收了多少成为个人收入
 
EXACTLY!!
A lot of Doctors from China have passed MEDICAL examination here in Ontario, BUT they CANNOT find intern, hence CAN never practise as doctor (Ontario Liberal has reduced that intern number), most of them can only work at HEALTH Canada to review medical documents, what a waste of talents!!!
我听说就算是加拿大医学院的毕业生,有的都找不到intern,因为intern名额不够,不能拿行医执照。安省自由党政府削减intern名额实在是太愚蠢了!而且太浪费资源了!
 
医疗也是一个行业保护的典型。新移民中有很多有经验的医生,为什么不能让他们经过training再行医呢。而且他们不会张口要怎么多的钱。
 
眼科医生的overhead cost很贵的,那么多医疗仪器和设备都要折旧和维护。看见过一个眼科group有四个医生、四个assistant、好多个护士和前台的秘书,应该还有清洁工、财务等等。现在青光眼看医生、动手术看平均等待时间一年。有人一只眼睛由于没有得到及时治疗瞎了,另一只眼睛也开始不行了,只有五十几岁,将来日子怎么过呀?真的不能削减医疗费用,否则轮到谁都倒霉啊!
眼科医生的overhead cost很贵的,那么多医疗仪器和设备都要折旧和维护。看见过一个眼科group有四个医生、四个assistant、好多个护士和前台的秘书,应该还有清洁工、财务等等。现在青光眼看医生、动手术看平均等待时间一年。有人一只眼睛由于没有得到及时治疗瞎了,另一只眼睛也开始不行了,只有五十几岁,将来日子怎么过呀?真的不能削减医疗费用,否则轮到谁都倒霉啊!
Province short sighted about cataract surgery
http://www.torontosun.com/2014/12/14/province-short-sighted-about-cataract-surgery
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The OPHTHALMOLOGIST who billed 6.6 M, reported to do at least twenty cataracts per day. User laser can reduce cataracts surgery to 15 minutes, i.e. he can do 30 surgeries per day (8 hours), 150 per week, 7500 per year (if he works 50 weeks), and OHIP is paying CAD 497 to the surgeon per surgery, i.e. 3.5 million just on CATARACTS surgery alone.
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If that OPHTHALMOLOGIST is working like APPLE TREE here in Ottawa, which is quite common to have a team of four OPHTHALMOLOGISTS operating together, 6.6 M is reasonable.
 
把数据摆明面上, Drs 每周工作了多少小时, 从政府那又收了多少成为个人收入
政府应该有收费标准的。有个朋友的老公是医生,说医生的收入有很大一部分要付保险(大概30%,不是每个医生都是这个比例),这是政府规定的。另外要付各种杂费和秘书费用,加上所得税,其实到手并不是想我们想象的那么多。有时候觉得还不如少看病人,自己轻松一点。我们作为局外人,只是希望等候看病的时间短一点,大家都受益不是吗?
 
如果把医生比做开出租的 那需要有uber 式的新技术来打破垄断
 
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