中美贸易战:13轮磋商无果 改成“阶段性”方式继续磋

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    Chinese President Xi Jinping
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    China has added its currency to the weapons it is willing to use in the trade war with the U.S., and it is now up to President Donald Trump to determine how much further the situation can escalate.

    China on Monday allowed its currency to slide below what has been a psychological red line—the key 7 yuan to the dollar level — for the first time since 2008. China also halted new purchases of U.S. agricultural products, according to state run media.

    The Chinese picked two sore spots for Trump, who has protested the strong dollar and railed against other countries he says are weakening their own currencies for trade advantage. He has also attempted to boost Chinese purchases of agriculture products to limit the impact on farmers, who have also received some federal funding to offset the string from the lost sales.

    Trump blasted China Monday for manipulating its currency, and the U.S. Treasury labeled China a “currency manipulator” after the close of U.S. trading. But strategists say the next moves could also be his, and that it will be clear how serious China is about cheapening its currency at the next fixing early Tuesday.

    The People’s Bank of China each day sets a rate for the yuan, allowing it to trade in a band against the dollar that is 2 percent on either side of its midpoint value. That is the onshore currency, or CNY. The offshore currency CNH is used by foreign investors and banks and it fell to a record 7.09 per dollar.

    “I think its their biggest signal yet,” said Marc Chandler, chief market strategist at Bannockburn Global Forex. “The Chinese are signalling that they have lost confidence that they can reach an agreement with Trump. And until now they were willing to go along and play the game.”

    Chandler said China was labeled a currency manipulator for the first time in 15 years and out of the normal schedule of review.

    “What has happened between April and last night that China is manipulating the currency? The currency is down 2.5% this year. If they’re manipulating the currency lower for export advantage, they’re not doing a very good job,” said Chandler. The

    China’s central bank denied it was devaluing its currency in response to Trump’s latest tariffs, but an official was quoted anonymously saying it was a reaction to tariffs. Trump has said he would put 10% tariffs on another $300 billion in Chinese goods as of Sept. 1 and possibly even raise them to 25%. Weakening the currency would help offset the revenue impact of tariffs.

    Chandler said China had been holding off intentionally on allowing the currency to move lower, and one of its concerns is a capital flight if the currency gets too cheap, as happened in 2015. “I think this was a shot across the bow. If Trump is going to go from 10% tariffs to 25% tariffs to something else, the Chinese are prepared to let it drop further,” said Chandler.

    “There’s one quote [from a Chinese official] that tells you this is a shot across the bow and it tells you it depends on how Trump responds,” Chandler said. Of the 7 yuan level, Chandler said the official said the level “was not like an age that when passed, cannot return.”

    So it will be key whether the PBOC sets the currency higher or lower in coming days.

    Global risk markets sold off sharply Monday on concerns that the battle between the two largest economies will result in a global recession. The Dow closed down 767 to 25,717, and futures were sharply lower after the Treasury’s announcement. Investors rushed into safe havens, particularly U.S. Treasurys. The U.S. 10-year yield fell to 1.70% in early evening trading, the lowest since October, 2016, and well below the 2.07% area it was in before last week’s Fed meeting.

    The dollar was weaker against major currencies, including the euro and yen, but it was higher by 1.5% against the Chinese yuan. The dollar index fell in its worst day since early June, but the dollar was higher against China-related and emerging market currencies, like the Australian dollar, Mexican peso and Brazilian real.

    “I think China is letting us know the currency is in their arsenal. ..This is not a currency war in any sense, but it obviously is raising some risk that things could accelerate,” said Bruce Kasman, J.P. Morgan’s chief economist. Kasman said the yuan was already under pressure just because of the appreciation in the U.S. dollar.

    “We don’t think they’ll let the currency run much further here,” he said. “I think they have their own domestic reasons not to let it go too far. They have a lot of dollar-denominated debt in China, and so as not to exasperate the expectations too much on the currency because that would lead to outflows.”

    On the U.S. side, Trump also has other cards he can play beyond just upping tariffs.

    Strategists say one idea that was discussed at the White House last month was the possibility that the U.S. intervene in the currency market to bring down the dollar, but they doubt that would happen, in part because it would not likely succeed.

    In an intervention, the Treasury would instruct the New York Fed to carry out operations on the dollar, and the fund it would use has assets of $94 billion. There is $36 billion of cash and cash equivalents, with $22 billion in Treasurys. Strategists say that is not enough fire power to successfully weaken the dollar, if the U.S. were to act alone.

    “The dollar is weakening today against other currencies. Really strengthening only against the renminbi and other emerging markets,” said Peter Boockvar, chief investment strategist at Bleakley Advisory Group. “When it comes to currency intervention, who would they intervene against? I don’t think they do there. it’s too difficult to maneuver. The history of intervention is littered with disappointment. Just look at Japan. The Swiss central bank has been intervening for years. It’s a failed policy, and it’s not something they should be doing.”

    Strategists said the president is typically very sensitive to stock market moves, and that may be what makes him change tact. The Dow was having its worst day since Feb. 8, 2018.

    Besides that the U.S. has limited funds, analysts say G-20 countries have agreed not to conduct solo interventions, unless there is extreme currency volatility. The last coordinated intervention was a move to drive down the yen, when it was rising following the 2011 tsunami.

    ”[Trump] lives by the market dies by the market and lives by the tariffs and dies by the tariffs,” said Peter Boockvar, chief investment strategist at Bleakley Global Advisors. “Outside of Peter Navarro, everybody around him said don’t do this [increase tariffs] and he ignored them. If he’s taking advice from only Peter Navarro, we’re in a very dangerous place.”

    Kasman, like other economists, said the ramping up of trade conflicts and the new tariffs and retaliation raises the risk of recession.

    “There was always elevated risk, and I think this does add to it...you’re having steps taken by countries that are counterproductive to stabilizing global growth,” said Kasman.

    William Jackson, chief emerging market economist at Capital Economics, said one economic threat from the latest tariffs is the potential hit to business confidence. Economists also note that the latest round of U.S. tariffs hit on goods that are more directly consumer products, and could impact companies, retailers and consumers just as holiday shopping gets underway.

    “It takes the global economy, not to recession, but to its weakest growth pace since the financial crisis,” said Jackson.

    Strategists said China has more options if it wants to signal its unhappiness, including the unlikely path of selling U.S. Treasurys. The Chinese government could meddle with U.S. companies with operations in China, and take such steps as ramping up regulation.

    “China can control its currency without having to intervene. They can squeeze the Hong Kong offshore market, and they and do it through interest rates, and they can also raise the margin requirements for having short forward positions,” said Chandler. “They can set the reference rates. There are policy tools they can use..There’s a lot of things China can do to move their currency which is part of the U.S. argument. They’re not very transparent.

    Jackson said China could just decline to engage in further negotiations. “Talks are meant to restart at some point in September. We might see more noise as those approach if the trade war were to escalate,” Jackson said.

    Strategists say, for now, global central banks will feed liquidity to markets slammed by trade worries. The PBOC is expected to introduce rate cuts and more easing, and expectations for the Fed jumped to three rate cuts for this year, from two right after Fed Chairman Jerome Powell disappointed markets last Wednesday.

    China’s action was not unexpected, but strategists say the speed at which it moved to let the currency fall was a surprise.

    “Your back is put against the wall and you’re constantly being attacked. Pride starts to kick in, and it’s not surprising China has started to assert some of its force,” said Greg Peters, head of multi sector and strategy at PGIM Fixed Income. “I’m not sure what that means in real terms. It’s not different than any other life situations. You push someone hard enough and they start pushing back. ... I never thought it was a good idea to act like it’s a scorched earth policy - I win, you lose. I continue to think that was never viable for the Chinese.”
     
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    中美经贸高级别磋商双方牵头人通话
    2019-08-13 21:39:28 来源: 新华网

      新华社北京8月13日电 8月13日晚,中共中央政治局委员、国务院副总理、中美全面经济对话中方牵头人刘鹤应约与美国贸易代表莱特希泽、财政部长姆努钦通话。中方就美方拟于9月1日对中国输美商品加征关税问题进行了严正交涉。双方约定在未来两周内再次通话。商务部部长钟山、中国人民银行行长易纲、国家发改委副主任宁吉喆等参加通话。
     
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    川普下令:人道解决香港问题 美中才能达成协议
    京港台:2019-8-19 10:14| 来源:美国之音

      美国总统川普表示,人道解决香港(专题)问题有助于美中达成贸易协议。他同时强调,美中贸易战没有伤害美国经济。

      
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      川普星期天(8月18日)表示,尽管美中爆发贸易战,但美国经济依然强劲。他说:“我们的情况很好,我们的消费者有钱。我给予了巨大的减税,他们现在荷包满满。”

      川普并表示,他不像助理们那样对与中国达成贸易协议感到那么乐观。虽然他相信中国准备达成一项协议,但表示“我还没有准备好达成协议”。


      川普同时暗示,希望北京方面首先解决香港正在进行的抗议活动。他说,“我想看到香港(问题)以非常人道的方式得以解决”,“我认为这非常有助于贸易协议”。
     
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    President Donald Trump on Tuesday said he had to confront China over trade even if it caused short-term harm to the U.S. economy because Beijing had been cheating Washington for decades.

    Trump’s strongly worded comments came hours before his government announced approval of an $8 billion sale of Lockheed Martin F-16 fighter jets to Taiwan, a move sure to draw Beijing’s ire and further dim prospects for a quick trade deal.

    On Monday, Vice President Mike Pence had also poked China on another sensitive topic, Hong Kong, calling on Beijing to respect the integrity of the former British colony’s laws in its response to mass protests there.

    “Somebody had to take China on,” Trump told reporters during a White House visit by Romanian President Klaus Iohannis, when asked about wide-ranging tariffs he has imposed on imports from China. “This is something that had to be done. The only difference is I am doing it,” he said.

    “China has been ripping this country off for 25 years, for longer than that and it’s about time whether it’s good for our country or bad for our country short term. Long term it’s imperative that somebody does this,” he said.

    Trump’s tariff plans have roiled global markets and unnerved investors as the trade dispute between the world’s two largest economies stretches into its second year with no end in sight.

    Growing concerns that the trade war could trigger a possible U.S. recession weighed on financial markets last week and seemed to put administration officials on edge about whether the economy would hold up through the November 2020 presidential election.

    Democrats on Sunday argued Trump’s trade policies were posing an acute, short-term risk. U.S. stock markets tanked last week on recession fears with all three major U.S. indexes closing down about 3% on Wednesday, although they pared their losses by Friday.

    Trump, who is seeking re-election, again dismissed recession fears, saying: “We’re far from recession.”

    Secretary of State Mike Pompeo told CNBC that U.S. and Chinese officials were expected to speak by telephone about the trade disputes over the next week to 10 days, followed by a possible in-person meeting.

    But trade experts said the prospects for productive trade negotiations were clouded by Washington’s increasingly combative stance against China, including the arms sale to Taiwan and its increasingly tough language on Hong Kong.

    The Pentagon on Tuesday formally notified Congress that the U.S. State Department had approved the possible sale of 66 F-16 fighter jets to Taiwan, which Beijing considers a renegade province.

    China, which has never renounced the use of force to bring the island under its control, has warned it could take unspecified “countermeasures” in response to the sale.

    Under Washington’s “one-China” policy, the U.S. government officially recognizes Beijing and not Taipei, while assisting Taiwan. It remains the main arms supplier to Taiwan.

    In a separate development, the U.S. International Trade Commission said it had found that subsidized steel rack imports from China had materially harmed U.S. industry, locking in duties imposed by the U.S. Commerce Department on such products.

    The Commerce Department last month said it had concluded that exporters from China had sold steel racks and parts at less than fair value, with total imports from China of such products amounting to about $200 million in 2017.

    https://globalnews.ca/news/5791020/donald-trump-china-us-economy/
     

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