听话听音：川普喊话中共 现在不谈别后悔
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中国还有好多牌，个个都是王牌。美国公司的服务贸易，教育，旅游等非产品贸易，这上面美国公司都是净赚钱的。波音公司。稀土。美国牛肉，玉米等其他农产品。美国国债。汇率战。如果美国再打台湾牌，明年就收台湾。
不知道大家注意到没有，美国这次和中国打贸易战，没有一个盟友直接站出来支持它的，默克尔前天还说汉堡港未来加入一带一路。美国现在已经黔驴技穷了，战略反攻就要到了！
不知道大家注意到没有，美国这次和中国打贸易战，没有一个盟友直接站出来支持它的，默克尔前天还说汉堡港未来加入一带一路。美国现在已经黔驴技穷了，战略反攻就要到了！
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美国还要打伊朗，当年打伊拉克，那么多盟友支持，中俄旁观，五六条航母从打下来。现在没有盟友支持，中俄支持伊朗，才派一条航母，能打下来才怪呢！
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美国已经不是当年的美国，中国也不是当年的中国
派一条航母是示威。
美国打贸易战，意在中国的高科技。看他整中兴、整华为就知道。
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如果中共同意自废华为中兴（赵家人蠢蠢欲动，例如联想），美国可以停止贸易战。美国可以容忍一个没有希望的中共政权，却不可能接受一个科技创新可能超越美国的中国。
同理看，沙特和伊朗。
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U.S. Gives China a Month for Trade Deal as Talks Deadlocked
By Shawn Donnan, Jennifer Jacobs, and Ye Xie
May 10, 2019, 3:53 PM EDT Updated on May 10, 2019, 8:35 PM EDT
China Talks May Get Worse Before They Get Better, Asia Society's Stone Fish Says
President Donald Trump’s administration told China it has a month to seal a trade deal or face tariffs on all its exports to the U.S., even as both sides sought to avoid a public breakdown in negotiations despite a developing stalemate.
The threat was made during talks Friday in Washington, hours after Trump upped the ante by imposing a second round of punitive duties on $200 billion in Chinese goods. The talks are under close scrutiny across global financial markets, and U.S. stocks turned positive after negotiators on both sides said the session had gone fairly well.
In a series of tweets that cheered markets, Trump declared Friday that the talks with China had been “candid and constructive.” “The relationship between President Xi and myself remains a very strong one, and conversations into the future will continue,” he said. Further talks are possible, but there’s no immediate plan for the next round, according to a person familiar with the negotiations.
Earlier, in a meeting with Chinese Vice Premier Liu He, U.S. officials laid out their bottom line, telling him that Beijing had three or four weeks to agree to a deal or face additional 25% tariffs on a further $325 billion in exports to the U.S., according to people familiar with the talks. The threat came in response to the lack of any meaningful concessions by China during two days of meetings, the people said.
Liu He outside the Office of the U.S. Trade Representative in Washington on May 10.
Photographer: Alex Edelman/Bloomberg
In a statement late Friday, U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer said the administration would release details of its plans for tariffs on roughly $300 billion in imports from China on Monday, setting the process in motion for Trump to deliver on his latest threat.
The lack of progress left major question-marks hanging over the search for a deal on trade -- just one source of tensions in a growing geopolitical rivalrythat’s already shifting supply chains and testing established economic and security alliances.
In an interview Friday with Chinese state broadcaster CCTV, Liu said both sides agreed to keep talking despite what he called “some temporary resistance and distractions,’’ and to hold future meetings in Beijing. He dismissed the idea that talks had broken down. “It’s normal to have hiccups during the negotiations. It’s inevitable.”
‘Equality and Dignity’
He also struck a note of defiance. “For the interest of the people of China, the people of U.S. and the the people of the whole world, we will deal with this rationally,’ the vice premier said. “But China is not afraid, nor are the Chinese people,” adding that “China needs a cooperative agreement with equality and dignity.”
proposed a vast new plan to use income from tariffs to buy up the crops of American farmers who’ve watched their exports to China collapse, and send them to poor countries as aid.
The presidential good humor hid what people familiar with the discussions say has been an increasingly gloomy mood around the negotiations in recent days.
In a call with Trump supporters on Friday, trade adviser and China hawk Peter Navarro said the two sides hadn’t reached a deal yet.
He also denied that the Trump administration’s actions amounted to a trade war, telling supporters that the U.S. was defending itself against a China that did not obey international norms, according to two people on the call.
Before the rebound late Friday, U.S. markets had posted their worst week of the year so far, as the trade truce that had been in place for months was shattered by the new U.S. tariffs.
The S&P 500 recovered from earlier losses Friday, ending the day 0.4% higher.
Election Year
This week’s tariff move is likely to have significant short-term consequences for retailers and other U.S. businesses reliant on imports from China. But extending it to all trade would increase the economic and political stakes even further for Trump and American businesses.
Such a step would see price increases on smartphones, laptops and other consumer goods -- the kind that Trump’s advisers have been eager to avoid, out of concern for the fallout. It would likely provoke further retaliation, and some economists are predicting it could even tip the U.S. economy into recession just as Trump faces re-election in 2020.
Those risks are one reason why some analysts believe the two sides will eventually strike a deal.
“It is in both sides’ interest to keep talking,’’ said Clete Willems, who until last month served as director of international economics on Trump’s National Economic Council. “I don’t think there is any reason that we can’t still have an agreement. There was a lot of progress made over the last four or five months and we shouldn’t throw that away.”
‘Gets Harder’
But this week’s talks have also amplified the differences that remain between the two governments, as they try to navigate their own domestic politics as well as a growing international rivalry.
Securing a trade deal is likely to get harder from here unless outside factors, such as an economic downturn, force a compromise, according to Ely Ratner, a China expert who served in the administration of President Barack Obama and is now director of studies at the Center for a New American Security think-tank.
“The question is can the Chinese come back and offer enough such that Trump can sell it?’’ he said. “I think it is going to be hard for them to do that in the face of Trump escalating. I think it gets harder as this thing goes on, and it gets harder politically for Trump.’’
By Shawn Donnan, Jennifer Jacobs, and Ye Xie
May 10, 2019, 3:53 PM EDT Updated on May 10, 2019, 8:35 PM EDT
- Negotiators say latest round in Washington was constructive
- But Trump administration signals more tariffs may be on way
China Talks May Get Worse Before They Get Better, Asia Society's Stone Fish Says
President Donald Trump’s administration told China it has a month to seal a trade deal or face tariffs on all its exports to the U.S., even as both sides sought to avoid a public breakdown in negotiations despite a developing stalemate.
The threat was made during talks Friday in Washington, hours after Trump upped the ante by imposing a second round of punitive duties on $200 billion in Chinese goods. The talks are under close scrutiny across global financial markets, and U.S. stocks turned positive after negotiators on both sides said the session had gone fairly well.
In a series of tweets that cheered markets, Trump declared Friday that the talks with China had been “candid and constructive.” “The relationship between President Xi and myself remains a very strong one, and conversations into the future will continue,” he said. Further talks are possible, but there’s no immediate plan for the next round, according to a person familiar with the negotiations.
Earlier, in a meeting with Chinese Vice Premier Liu He, U.S. officials laid out their bottom line, telling him that Beijing had three or four weeks to agree to a deal or face additional 25% tariffs on a further $325 billion in exports to the U.S., according to people familiar with the talks. The threat came in response to the lack of any meaningful concessions by China during two days of meetings, the people said.
Liu He outside the Office of the U.S. Trade Representative in Washington on May 10.
Photographer: Alex Edelman/Bloomberg
In a statement late Friday, U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer said the administration would release details of its plans for tariffs on roughly $300 billion in imports from China on Monday, setting the process in motion for Trump to deliver on his latest threat.
The lack of progress left major question-marks hanging over the search for a deal on trade -- just one source of tensions in a growing geopolitical rivalrythat’s already shifting supply chains and testing established economic and security alliances.
In an interview Friday with Chinese state broadcaster CCTV, Liu said both sides agreed to keep talking despite what he called “some temporary resistance and distractions,’’ and to hold future meetings in Beijing. He dismissed the idea that talks had broken down. “It’s normal to have hiccups during the negotiations. It’s inevitable.”
‘Equality and Dignity’
He also struck a note of defiance. “For the interest of the people of China, the people of U.S. and the the people of the whole world, we will deal with this rationally,’ the vice premier said. “But China is not afraid, nor are the Chinese people,” adding that “China needs a cooperative agreement with equality and dignity.”
proposed a vast new plan to use income from tariffs to buy up the crops of American farmers who’ve watched their exports to China collapse, and send them to poor countries as aid.
The presidential good humor hid what people familiar with the discussions say has been an increasingly gloomy mood around the negotiations in recent days.
In a call with Trump supporters on Friday, trade adviser and China hawk Peter Navarro said the two sides hadn’t reached a deal yet.
He also denied that the Trump administration’s actions amounted to a trade war, telling supporters that the U.S. was defending itself against a China that did not obey international norms, according to two people on the call.
Before the rebound late Friday, U.S. markets had posted their worst week of the year so far, as the trade truce that had been in place for months was shattered by the new U.S. tariffs.
The S&P 500 recovered from earlier losses Friday, ending the day 0.4% higher.
Election Year
This week’s tariff move is likely to have significant short-term consequences for retailers and other U.S. businesses reliant on imports from China. But extending it to all trade would increase the economic and political stakes even further for Trump and American businesses.
Such a step would see price increases on smartphones, laptops and other consumer goods -- the kind that Trump’s advisers have been eager to avoid, out of concern for the fallout. It would likely provoke further retaliation, and some economists are predicting it could even tip the U.S. economy into recession just as Trump faces re-election in 2020.
Those risks are one reason why some analysts believe the two sides will eventually strike a deal.
“It is in both sides’ interest to keep talking,’’ said Clete Willems, who until last month served as director of international economics on Trump’s National Economic Council. “I don’t think there is any reason that we can’t still have an agreement. There was a lot of progress made over the last four or five months and we shouldn’t throw that away.”
‘Gets Harder’
But this week’s talks have also amplified the differences that remain between the two governments, as they try to navigate their own domestic politics as well as a growing international rivalry.
Securing a trade deal is likely to get harder from here unless outside factors, such as an economic downturn, force a compromise, according to Ely Ratner, a China expert who served in the administration of President Barack Obama and is now director of studies at the Center for a New American Security think-tank.
“The question is can the Chinese come back and offer enough such that Trump can sell it?’’ he said. “I think it is going to be hard for them to do that in the face of Trump escalating. I think it gets harder as this thing goes on, and it gets harder politically for Trump.’’
