高房价问题料成下届选举议题之一

[多伦多carpool]

政府少印点钱，银行把gic rate提高到2以上，自然就没人买房了。
至于说海外买家，give me a break。大温大多已经几乎绝迹了。谁还来ottawa。

 

[yzout]

看来，不少人还是自己不做点功课。
讨论房价这么长时间了，还没搞明白地税。

 

[多伦多carpool]

btw，房价高吗？
每次新房都被抢光，自己买不起就说房价高，绝对是loser的表现。
照我说，ottawa的房价太低，哪天新房发售不是日光，那才是房价高的那天。

 

[知更鸟]

我儿子告诉我，我也知道几个温哥华的把房子卖了搬到多伦多渥太华的，不工作。

 

[阿土仔]

天啊，说房价高地税也会高的，你们有房吗？看看自己的地税单子比去年多了几百，看看你们自己的房价比去年多了几万。这种简单算术不会算吗？

这里有2个因素：房价和税率，就是房价不涨，涨税率照样可以让你多交房产税。大家都知道温哥华和多伦多的房价比渥村高得多，但他们的房产税可不比这儿高。

 

[多伦多carpool]

这里有2个因素：房价和税率，就是房价不涨，涨税率照样可以让你多交房产税。大家都知道温哥华和多伦多的房价比渥村高得多，但他们的房产税可不比这儿高。

你先看看自己税单先，今年比去年涨了多少？
至于你同温哥华多伦多比，那是鸡同鸭讲，人是几百万的大城市。摊薄到每个人头上就便宜。
温哥华更是少了一个冬季铲雪的费用。所以便宜总是有道理的。

 

[TianK]

btw，房价高吗？
每次新房都被抢光，自己买不起就说房价高，绝对是loser的表现。
照我说，ottawa的房价太低，哪天新房发售不是日光，那才是房价高的那天。

一直到2019年夏，渥太華還有新盤不日光。

 

[阿土仔]

你先看看自己税单先，今年比去年涨了多少？
至于你同温哥华多伦多比，那是鸡同鸭讲，人是几百万的大城市。摊薄到每个人头上就便宜。
温哥华更是少了一个冬季铲雪的费用。所以便宜总是有道理的。

你有没有搞错？居然不知道今年上半年的房产税单是延续去年下半年的评估而不存在变化？

渥村近年来有一次房产价值评估下调，大家可以查查有没有比上年少交房产税。

城市规模大，各种设施费用也相应加大，这不是一个简单摊薄的问题，还涉及到市政结构的用钱效率。渥村搞过一次行政裁撤，结果不仅没减员增效，机构反而更加臃肿，浪费的钱更多。不过渥村人比较怂，一般逆来顺受。

 

[leeyy]

纽约时报的一篇关于渥太华房市的文章有几个有意思的观点：

House Hunting in Canada: Octagonal Riverfront Views Outside Ottawa (Published 2021)

After lagging behind larger Canadian cities for years, Ottawa saw home prices balloon in 2020, fueled by a surge in demand and ‘inventory at historic lows.’

www.nytimes.com

- After lagging behind red-hot markets in Montreal, Toronto and Vancouver for years, Ottawa, Canada’s fourth largest city, saw home prices balloon in 2020, fueled largely by a surge in demand and “inventory at historic lows,” according to Richard Rutkowski, a broker at Engel & Völkers Ottawa. “Compared to other world capital cities, we were always undervalued. For decades, it was steady growth rather than these big fluctuations.”

- As for the demand, Ottawa benefits from stability of government employment as Canada’s capital, Mr. Wright said. A booming tech sector, including a new Amazon fulfillment center and local success stories like the e-commerce company Shopify, “also mean companies are hiring and people are coming here to work for them,” he said.

- On the luxury end, “$2 million used to be a stretch,” said Ms. Wilson, the listing broker. The number of Ottawa homes sold for over 2 million Canadian ($1.57 million) more than doubled to 48 in 2020 from 20 in 2019, according to the Multiple Listing Service. “And those high-end homes now sell within days or weeks, instead of years,” she said.

- She added that heightened activity in rural markets doesn’t mean interest in central Ottawa has waned. “It’s a sophisticated, international city with lower density and fantastic green space,” she said. “There’s not really a bad neighborhood. Ottawa is in a growth stage. In the next three to five years, you’ll be lucky to get in here.”

- Who buys in Ottawa. In fact, a Statistics Canada report released Jan. 14 revealed record population losses in both Toronto and Montreal, with “more people moving out to other regions of their province rather than moving in” from July 2019 through July 2020.

Before the pandemic, Chinese and Indian investors had discovered Ottawa as an alternative to Toronto and Vancouver, where foreign buyers face special taxes, Mr. Rutkowski said. Fewer buyers are coming from overseas since lockdown, he said, noting that Americans make up a “negligible” portion of Ottawa’s foreign buyers.

 

[changyang]

移民量增长、人口增长自然房价就会涨了，多伦多温哥华太高，溢出到渥太华也是迟早的事。另外现在remote工作越来越多，很多居住在渥太华可以为其他地方的公司工作。经济发展必然房价会涨

 

[多伦多carpool]

你有没有搞错？居然不知道今年上半年的房产税单是延续去年下半年的评估而不存在变化？

渥村近年来有一次房产价值评估下调，大家可以查查有没有比上年少交房产税。

城市规模大，各种设施费用也相应加大，这不是一个简单摊薄的问题，还涉及到市政结构的用钱效率。渥村搞过一次行政裁撤，结果不仅没减员增效，机构反而更加臃肿，浪费的钱更多。不过渥村人比较怂，一般逆来顺受。

你啥意思，认为ottawa还不如gta？这里有的人已经认为ottawa绝对应该比gta牛了。lol。
至于地税单，假如我没记错的话，去年好像比前年涨了10per，也就几百一年，你会很在意吗？
交税是福气，说明你有房。交的越多说明你房越多，应该心存感谢。

 

[sdzhangtao]

Ottawa就是补涨而已，尤其是大房。我2012 买的centerpointe的房子，3300 尺。 64 万买的，知道去年年初agent告诉我只能卖75万。我还换窗户，furnace， AC。涨个屁啊。我的投资，啥事不用管，年回报7%

 

[yzout]

这是网上查到的2018年地税，
看绝对数Ottawa并不高，怎么总有人说Ottawa地税高呢。


Ottawa: $4,799 (average home price of $449,200)


Waterloo: $5,319 (average home price of $480,145)


Toronto: $5,532 (average home price of $782,129)


Guelph: $6,380 (average home price of $544,709)


Burlington: $6,568 (average home price of $805,697)


Hamilton: $6,990 (average home price of $553,935)

How do Ottawa’s property tax rates stack up? – Ottawa Business Journal

A new ranking of Canadian residential tax rates is giving homeowners a glimpse into how their property tax bill compares to other markets across the country.

www.obj.ca

 

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我2016 年买的房 地税就4100一年现在也就4400 也没涨多少

 

[阿土仔]

你啥意思，认为ottawa还不如gta？这里有的人已经认为ottawa绝对应该比gta牛了。lol。
至于地税单，假如我没记错的话，去年好像比前年涨了10per，也就几百一年，你会很在意吗？
交税是福气，说明你有房。交的越多说明你房越多，应该心存感谢。

我其实只想说一点，税率也会推高房产税。近几年税率已经从2%升至3%了，从没有回头的迹象。就像CFC250 问的，为什么税率能涨不能降？

房价的涨跌只有在卖房的时候才有实际意义，但每年交的税可是不退的，所以只能祈祷卖房的时候不大跌。当然，看着自己产业的评估值连年上升感觉很好，尽管是浮赢，这个我同意你说的。