别成天中国乌克兰了，讨论一下加拿大的医疗惨状吧

[知更鸟]

这边只有很少数顶级专家水平比国内医生高，而国内很多医生应该比这边水平高，当然医德国内医生肯定差点。

说句难听的，医生就跟管道工差不多，除了个人智力水平，经验越多水平越高。国内每个医生，特别是外科手术医生每个月的手术数和接触到的各种疑难杂症比这边医生也不知道高多少倍，还没有这边的各种规章制度的限制。

因为行业执照问题，还有市场，可能很多好医生不愿意移民加拿大
我也不认为国内医生医德差 ，这边要好多少，只能靠法律规范

 

[我就是一马甲]

无关政治，我是想说有些移民能和自己语言相通，在母国有医生执照的人顺利沟通看病，为什么要用语言问题横插一杠耽误看病？

发医生执照的机构和人不这么看。就像找工作，我觉得这个职位很适合我，但是招聘的人不这么看。

 

[gocanoeing]

无关政治，我是想说有些移民能和自己语言相通，在母国有医生执照的人顺利沟通看病，为什么要用语言问题横插一杠耽误看病？

这个可能和医生不是饭馆服务员有关

要找和自己母语相通的饭馆服务员应该不难

 

[billwanhua]

Althia Raj: Canada is now No. 1 in world in terms of MAiD. We should think twice before expanding it

The federal government has plans to address some of the gaps but instead of waiting for those measures to be in place, it is pressing ahead with MAiD’s expansion, Althia Raj writes.

www.thestar.com

Canada is now No. 1 in world in terms of MAiD. We should think twice before expanding it​

A month ago, a St. Catharines man named Amir Farsoud sought help to end his life. He didn’t want to die, the now 55-year-old told CityNews. But the rooming house where he lived was up for sale and he couldn’t find affordable housing. Farsoud, who has a debilitating back problem, lived off his meagre disability payments and feared his only option was homelessness. So, he applied for medical assistance in dying, or MAiD.

In 2021, MAiD was expanded to include people whose death is not reasonably foreseeable. To qualify, individuals must have a serious incurable illness or disability, must be in an advanced state of irreversible decline, and must suffer from intolerable physical or psychological pain.

这种因为贫穷和疾病难道可以申请MAiD？这也太毁三观了，政府应该加大对自己国家贫困残疾人口的福利补助，而不是全世界去救援。

Ontario man not considering medically-assisted death anymore after outpouring of support

A GoFundMe raised more than $60,000 from people around the world and has given him a new lease on life.

ottawa.citynews.ca

A GoFundMe raised more than $60,000 from people around the world and has given him a new lease on life.

This is happy ending,but things like this should not have happened in Canada.

 

[ottawa_tj]

没看出MAiD政策有什么问题。

说实话，他想申请政府也拦不住。。。如果政府批准了，那才能说政策有问题。

如果政府把支援乌克兰的钱省下来，补贴给穷人，照样有人抨击政府瞎花钱。

 

[billwanhua]

没看出MAiD政策有什么问题。

说实话，他想申请政府也拦不住。。。如果政府批准了，那才能说政策有问题。

如果政府把支援乌克兰的钱省下来，补贴给穷人，照样有人抨击政府瞎花钱。

Ontario man applying for medically-assisted death as alternative to being homeless

Amir Farsoud lives with never-ending agony from a back injury years ago

ottawa.citynews.ca

没有问题？他虽然有病，但是完全是因为贫穷才申请安乐死，而且一个医生已经批准了。这种情况联合国都写信干涉了。

Ontario man applying for medically-assisted death as alternative to being homeless

Amir Farsoud lives with never-ending agony from a back injury years ago

ottawa.citynews.ca

“I don’t want to die but I don’t want to be homeless more than I don’t want to die,” shared Farsoud

When asked if he would consider assisted dying if he had stable housing, Farsoud said he wouldn’t “even be close to it yet.”





MAID officially became legal in Canada in 2016 under the requirement that death was reasonably foreseeable. The eligibility to apply expanded in March of 2022 to include people with disabilities or those suffering pain even if they are not close to death.
UN experts released a report in Jan of 2021 that said when “life-ending interventions are normalized for people who are not terminally ill or suffering at the end of their lives, such legislative provisions tend to rest on – or draw strength from – ableist assumptions about the inherent ‘quality of life’ or ‘worth’ of the life of a person with a disability.”
In a letter sent directly to the Government of Canada ahead of the change in MAiD legislation, the UN said it was concerned with the expanded access, specifically citing concern with a circumstance like the one Farsoud faces.
“It is not beyond possibility that, if offered an expanded right as per Bill C-7, persons with disabilities may decide to end their lives because of broader social factors such as loneliness, social isolation and lack of access to quality social services,” read the note.

Farsoud has already received one signoff from his doctor that says he meets the criteria, which is physical suffering due to a disability that is intolerable and cannot be relieved.

Farsoud’s MAiD application form that contains one doctors signature. He only needs one more to be approved. Photo credit: Farsoud
He still needs one more doctor to sign off in order to become eligible.

 

[enst]

这边只有很少数顶级专家水平比国内医生高，而国内很多医生应该比这边水平高，当然医德国内医生肯定差点。

说句难听的，医生就跟管道工差不多，除了个人智力水平，经验越多水平越高。国内每个医生，特别是外科手术医生每个月的手术数和接触到的各种疑难杂症比这边医生也不知道高多少倍，还没有这边的各种规章制度的限制。

比较医生总数没意义啊 国内人均好医生数量比加拿大还少
你想要加拿大大城市医院都暴挤吗 加拿大小镇人都来大城市看病啊 爆挤的医院医生才会有那么多练手机会啊

 

[billwanhua]

比较医生总数没意义啊 国内人均好医生数量比加拿大还少
你想要加拿大大城市医院都暴挤吗 加拿大小镇人都来大城市看病啊 爆挤的医院医生才会有那么多练手机会啊

又走偏了，没人拿这里民众享受医疗跟中国比。
我是接着网友的话说中国医生移民加拿大可以当加拿大医生，水平也不一定比加拿大差，你又上纲上线拿两国民众的医疗享受比。