歌手张惠妹表示不再为台湾当局演出

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最初由 csi 发布


呵呵,你们这帮地痞流氓也代表中国人民?你们自己看看你们的话,不觉得给人类丢脸吗?

我即不是什么民运也不是什么别的功什么的。就是看不贯你们这些白痴,混人,看不贯你们这些替独裁专制说话和巴不得战争的一群跳梁小丑!

看看你们这些所谓“爱国”地痞流氓在这个论坛里的话。满嘴污秽。本来人人可以发表不同的意见。你们看到谁谁如果和你们的意见不同,便满嘴“SB”之类的污秽。你以为这里是大陆?不能有不同的意见?瞎了你们的狗眼!

想横行霸道不允许不同的意见?回大陆去。这里是加拿大!

嘿嘿,害怕了吧。不敢承认自己是反华反人民的汉奸小丑,轮子,运运,独子了吧?说你们没出息成不了事就是这道理,还没等共产党打呢,自己内部先乱成了一锅粪便,分化瓦解,急忙划清界限。

整天在这上窜下跳地反共反华,你们不是恨中共吗?有本事杀共产党去,你们要是有勇气杀了那7000万中共党员的中的哪怕一个,也会让人佩服!!!躲在国外骂中国咒共产党,还叫嚷什么‘不同意见’,知道这叫什么吗?这叫标准的‘意淫’。搞多了会使你内分泌失调,脑瘫痴呆,大小便失禁。你要再这样下去,离那已经不远了,别怪我没提醒你。毕竟你也会写几个中国字。

至于满嘴污秽,肆意排泄‘流氓’‘奴才’‘纳粹’‘孙子’,,,等等等等的,正是你自己嘛,你都干了什么,大家都恨清楚。你要倒打一耙,人民群众不会接受;你要主动把你排泄的黄白一片都吃回去,大家拍手称快。于人于己于环境都有利。

给我记牢了:戴绿帽子的某台湾艺人就是与13亿为敌的下场!
 
最初由 京都球侠 发布


Personally, I think your thought is too old, a kind of typical Chinese ideology.

I have questions for the people here, Who is the real owner of 宝岛台湾 now? Who is the real owner of 中国大陆?

I think those are really crucial questions here. Why? Because only the owner have the right to deal with his won property, right?

From my point of view, it seems 台湾人民 think themself are the owners of 宝岛(Especially in these 10 years). Both 中国大陆人民 and 台湾人民 think 大陆江山 belongs to the real power man of 共产党. So I guess 台湾人民 is worrying if 统一, 宝岛台湾 will also belong to 共产党 and themself will just become the same situation like 中国大陆人民 who have no right to choose their way of life any more.

Actually 20 years ago,the owner of 台湾 was 国民党, a similar situation as 中国大陆 today. But 台湾人民 get the power and the ownership by voters so I think it might be really hard for them to go back again. Therefore, the key reason here maybe, we,中国大陆 still implement the old time way to manage our country, and 台湾人民 know that is not good at all.

We know, what we are doing in 大陆 now just same as they did 20 or 30 years ago. Maybe they think they have deeper understanding and more experience on the country's development.

Thus, i think the 台湾 issue is far beyond that easy like most of us think about. Anyway, I think in order the solve the problem you have to deeply know what is the real problem first.

Another thing i wondered is why we never heard the opinon and solution from 共产党's real leaders? What is their plans of solving the tough problem. I think if the issue is in Canada, Paul Martin has to speak out his solution and takes the action according to a secheule.

So, what our government did on this issue shows it is not a very competent government, as incapable as in handling SARS,Bombed Embassy, Hitted down air plane, China's South Sea and etc.

Nobody trusts and likes an incapable government for sure. No a capable leader or government could come out without challengable competitions for sure. If you like sports you will know that no game no competition no excellent skills!

京都球虾这篇文章写得好,是双语思维的范文!民主是个好东西。可我就笨得不行,为啥这个好东西全世界那么多人不爱要?全世界有那么多人要打美国?为啥美国大兵可以随便把一个国家的首脑押到美国收审?谁给他的权力?
我再给你说个笨理儿。大陆和台湾,就像一家哥俩儿,不和,分开住了,都住在祖宗留下的产业里,还都认一个祖宗。可是现在有一个哥们儿要把祖宗产业改名,也不认这个祖宗了,你说另外那哥们儿能干吗?
 
最初由 京都球侠 发布


Personally, I think your thought is too old, a kind of typical Chinese ideology.

I have questions for the people here, Who is the real owner of 宝岛台湾 now? Who is the real owner of 中国大陆?

I think those are really crucial questions here. Why? Because only the owner have the right to deal with his won property, right?

From my point of view, it seems 台湾人民 think themself are the owners of 宝岛(Especially in these 10 years). Both 中国大陆人民 and 台湾人民 think 大陆江山 belongs to the real power man of 共产党. So I guess 台湾人民 is worrying if 统一, 宝岛台湾 will also belong to 共产党 and themself will just become the same situation like 中国大陆人民 who have no right to choose their way of life any more.

Actually 20 years ago,the owner of 台湾 was 国民党, a similar situation as 中国大陆 today. But 台湾人民 get the power and the ownership by voters so I think it might be really hard for them to go back again. Therefore, the key reason here maybe, we,中国大陆 still implement the old time way to manage our country, and 台湾人民 know that is not good at all.

We know, what we are doing in 大陆 now just same as they did 20 or 30 years ago. Maybe they think they have deeper understanding and more experience on the country's development.

Thus, i think the 台湾 issue is far beyond that easy like most of us think about. Anyway, I think in order the solve the problem you have to deeply know what is the real problem first.

Another thing i wondered is why we never heard the opinon and solution from 共产党's real leaders? What is their plans of solving the tough problem. I think if the issue is in Canada, Paul Martin has to speak out his solution and takes the action according to a secheule.

So, what our government did on this issue shows it is not a very competent government, as incapable as in handling SARS,Bombed Embassy, Hitted down air plane, China's South Sea and etc.

Nobody trusts and likes an incapable government for sure. No a capable leader or government could come out without challengable competitions for sure. If you like sports you will know that no game no competition no excellent skills!

满纸荒唐言,一把无知泪!

说别人典型中国思维。自己是全新的西方思维?
有些中国人啊,到哪里都是这副德性。看多了,见怪不怪了。反正,他们是中国人中的败类,西方人眼中的另内,在自己眼中却是圣斗士。怪哉。
 
最初由 Johnson13 发布


京都球虾这篇文章写得好,是双语思维的范文!民主是个好东西。可我就笨得不行,为啥这个好东西全世界那么多人不爱要?全世界有那么多人要打美国?为啥美国大兵可以随便把一个国家的首脑押到美国收审?谁给他的权力?
我再给你说个笨理儿。大陆和台湾,就像一家哥俩儿,不和,分开住了,都住在祖宗留下的产业里,还都认一个祖宗。可是现在有一个哥们儿要把祖宗产业改名,也不认这个祖宗了,你说另外那哥们儿能干吗?

Sorry, i have to use mixing English again.
1>As to your questions about "为啥这个好东西全世界那么多人不爱要?全世界有那么多人要打美国" is another topic about US's foreign policy, i won't talk it here today. But i just would like to point out 民主!= 美国. Although 美国 is applying 民主 system but they are really quite different concept. So, don't assume anyone who supports 民主 just natually supports 美国.

2> i totally agree with your metaphor that 大陆和台湾,就像一家哥俩儿.But i doubt you have right to use voilence even your brother 要把祖宗产业改名,也不认这个祖宗了. If it happens to me the first thing I will do is to talk with my brother without any condition just know clearly why he make that choice. I will try my best to convince him but he really wants to go. I just say take care to him because my 祖宗产业 is still in my brother's hand. But, be careful, but... If some other guys(say Japan or Vietnan) want to seize that 产业 i definetely will defense by arm.
That is why i assent applying tough policy on Fishing Island and South China Sea but soft policy to our brother,台湾. Just like what you said i will keep 住在祖宗留下的产业 in our hands.

It is just a kind of personally way on dealing with things, it might be not smart. But i hate to use violence to my brothers,my friends and anyone of my folks. You might see any strong strong nation seldomly has internal war, Germany, Japan, France, English even Jewry. But...turn back our heads, we saw too many internal wars. Too many 华人 were killed by 华人. I hate 华人 will be killed any more for any reason. I hope 华人 treats 华人 better.
 
最初由 234567 发布


满纸荒唐言,一把无知泪!

说别人典型中国思维。自己是全新的西方思维?
有些中国人啊,到哪里都是这副德性。看多了,见怪不怪了。反正,他们是中国人中的败类,西方人眼中的另内,在自己眼中却是圣斗士。怪哉。

My friend, we surely need to learn from anyone who does better than we do. No matter he is 西方人 or 中国人. Actually, we have been keeping study from 西方人 since 1840. You cannot deny Russia is also 西方人 to us. We had ever thought we learned the best and most advanced thing from Russia but... The most ridicular thing is we are still sticking to the stupid thing even Russia herself had thrown it away.
You know as a responsible Chinese man I am anxious why we always choose bad solution!

If i were a real 中国人中的败类 i won't spend time on this. I am living in Canada with my family now. I have a very happy and good life i should not have to worry so much. But i always think if every 中国人 could have such a good life in 中国 how proud of i would be.
 
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应该鼓励张惠妹唱中华民国国歌
文章来源: 达拉斯瘪三 于 文学城两岸交流

张惠妹前一阵子在杭州遭市民封杀,就是因为四年前在陈水扁的就职典礼上领唱了中华民国的国歌。

要我说,张惠妹唱中华民国国歌,至少说明她是认同中华民国的,至少对中华民国不反感。据我所知,中华民国的国歌歌词乃是孙中山先生所写,其中有三民主义以建民国以进大同等。我是南京人,从小学到中学年年组织到中山陵,从小就知道孙先生灵堂前门头上民族民权民生是三民主义,即使是在“不许偷听敌台” ,国民党=反动派=坏蛋特务的年代里,“中国国民党葬总理孙先生于此” 几个大字也是金光熠熠。国共只有政争,但都是中国的英雄好汉。这个歌词里,把全国,全民族都看成自己(国民党) 的奋斗目标,可没有一点分省独立的内容。话说回来,那时候还没有台独的问题,台湾还在日本的治下。我们说一个人爱国,承认自己是中国人,那必然要有一个载体。在台湾,这个载体就是中华民国。如果我们要求每个台湾人认同中华人民共和国,那无疑是不现实的,也不合情理。但是只要他认同中华民国,认同自己是中国人,那就是爱中国。老蒋和共产党撕杀到那个样子,但他认同中华民国,同样也是领导抗战的民族英雄。这就和汪精卫不同,和李登辉陈水扁更不同。所以,唱中华民国的国歌,是认同自己是中华民国国民的一种表现,也是反分裂的表现。

和李登辉陈水扁等人相比,张惠妹更是一个中国人。她领唱中华民国的国歌,声音无疑是高亢而激越的,可以想见,李登辉陈水扁听到是多么的刺耳。即使是出於需要跟着哼几句,心里一定也是百抓挠心般地难受。因为他们掌权这十几年来的所作所为,就是要把中华民国的一切,从台湾的身上剥去。从护照,拼音,教科书,博物馆等等开始,下一步就是国旗国歌宪法了。他们不希望和中国沾边,不承认自己是中国人,不认同覆盖整个大中国的中华民国,所以最恨听的歌,或许就是中华民国的国歌了。

所以我说,如果全台湾的民众都能高唱中华民国的国歌,台独就没有势力了,离中国的统一也就不远了。


附:中华民国国歌歌词
三民主义,吾党所宗,
以建民国,以进大同,
咨尔多士,为民前锋,
夙夜匪懈,主义是从,
矢勤矢勇,必信必忠,
一心一德,?彻始剿。

附:另个台湾人的话,深有同感,顺便说一句,我不是张惠妹的歌迷,印象最深的就是它给雪碧做的广告的那个“我要飞”

5月20日,在台??水扁先生?靳就??式上,一?名叫?惠妹的姑娘?邀高歌一曲《中攘民??歌》。不知?何,呃居然引起了大?某些人士的不快。??天,便?海外一些媒篦上?出大?有晷部樵?定禁播?惠妹?告、歌唱演出的消息。有?者?此?樵?中?外交部的一?办言人??是否??。?办言人?费不知此事。再?中共中央台揠和??院台揠相晷主管官?,?官?也真?呃件事一?所知,?费如有此事,他?作?主管的部樵之一,一定?知情的。呃等於否帐了禁播??。侦知咿了??天,就办出呃?一?消息,真是一些??、?台??大愚?(逻?)的?烈要求,?定??禁止播放?惠妹演出的歌曲、?告,理由是?在台?新钌?人就?典顿上大唱《中攘民??歌》,等於是站在了台?份子那?,?台??力?目,助樘了台??力的???焰,?害了中?人民的感情云云。

?惠妹是何杂人?一?出道才?年就已剪遍整?中?大?、港台和?南?攘人地?的著名歌星,?有?大的青、少年歌迷。真起?,她只不咿是一?演?界方面的人士,晋毫?有什?政治背景。作?一?台?歌手,在台?的各肺重大集?活?中助配(不管是否有政治含柳),唱唱歌、跳跳舞,是很正常的一件事,晋毫?有什?值得大罄小怪的。一?演?界人士,你要?他(她)嘱什?政治立?、政治??,要有一定政治素冱,知道哪些是政治敏感?,不能蒺易去碰它。呃完全是不??的,真出?也是令人感到可笑的。呃肺泛政治化的行?,锢然不符合?代社?多元办展良性共存的需要,非但?助於台?陪大?的交流和解,反而?加深台?人民?大?(尤其是大??局)的不理解。禁播事件一出,只??不少人感到,你呗唱一首自己不喜?逻的歌都那?敏感,不能容忍,??怎?能帐真推行你所真的?仁??、容忍?己的「一??制」?

再真,?惠妹唱的《中攘民??歌》,歌轧中有「三民主柳……」,?有一?主?台??立的意思。呃首歌一直是中攘民?的?歌,1949年以前全中?都在唱,1949年以後,由於?所咛知的原因,只能在台?唱了。帐真钌?呃首歌轧中的含柳,彦面不??有主?中?分裂的意滓,相反??含了_?∽杂伞⑷嗣窆埠偷乃枷牒痛笾腥A的寓意。一?人,如果人?老是以?他做的都是?事,?殓樘了,呃?人即使不是?人,也?多少?一些?事出?;相反,即使是一?所洲的?人,如果大家都?他抱以正面的期待,那他多少也?努力去做些好事,以不??望。呃就是所洲的激?效?。如果我?大?方面?容大度一些,遇事?往??想,不妨就把?惠妹唱「三民主柳……」理解?帐同?岸都是中?人呃一事?,赝不更好?呃?是不是更利於腽方和解?

?得就在最近?年,江?民先生以中?大?最高钌袖的身分出蕴海外,陪攘?相聚?,也曾?情?茂地吟这「三民主柳,吾?所宗……」,?《中攘民??歌》?钷到尾一字不差地背唱出?,使海外老一?攘??又罄又喜。如果真,江先生吟唱《中攘民??歌》篦?了不忘?史、希望?岸和平靳一的良好?望,那?,?什?不能把?惠妹高歌一曲、?水扁?耳?逻《中攘民??歌》,理解?新政府已殓接含蓄地承帐「?岸都是中?人」呃一原??

?岸相_?迨?N年,和平靳一?铨之所以拖至今日仍看不到解?的良好前景,恐怕陪腽方(尤其是?大的一方)缺乏包容、意滓形?作祟、遇事?往??著想,??方的任何一?提阻都不是?好的方面善意解坐,而往往?不好的方面?意揣?不?晷?。(2000年6月16日於川南)
 
最初由 京都球侠 发布


Personally, I think your thought is too old, a kind of typical Chinese ideology.

I have questions for the people here, Who is the real owner of 宝岛台湾 now? Who is the real owner of 中国大陆?

.....

想告诉你,中华民族是唯一的real owner。而中华民族是统一的多元民族,the thought is too old?Of course, this should be typical Chinese ideology.Why? Don't you know? 因为这是中华民族自己的事。中华民族,包括台湾的,也包括大陆的。
 
补充一句,似乎不能说是一个家庭的两兄弟。任何分裂中华民族的行径都是不允许的。这个问题应没什么可回旋的余地。陈水扁要挑战这个目标,结果自然是一战。对这一战,这还要问对错,是否应该吗?
 
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