我要谈谈俺在纽约领事馆的遭遇 中国人更恨中国人？

[光辉岁月]

最初由 Tornado 发布
看了这段经历，我完全相信。我在加拿大的中国领事馆也有到过类似的经历。
不过，请不要无限上纲，用“中国人更恨中国人”这样的标题。不要以个别人的行为代表所有中国人。你我都是中国人。你把你自己搭进去也就算了，不要把我和所有中国人都搭进去。在我心里，我永远更爱我的祖国和同胞。

说得好

 

[perl]

对于帮了自己的人, 心存一份感激, 而那些没有帮自己的人, 也不是因此就欠了我们, 该被我们指着鼻子破口大骂. 多这样想想, 心态能平和很多

 

[anti-virus]

最初由 ottawa248 发布
是矫情了点, 好象都欠他似的. 出远门自己应该准备好应变的方案, 纽约是一个容易
落脚的地方, 哪里用得着去麻烦使馆? 中国衙门里有些人态度不好,也不是什么新
鲜事.

I agree with you. But there are obviously something that they can to do serve our oversea Chinese better. In fact, as a Chinese government branch representing the Chinese people and the Chinese government, they are supposed to do their best. On this point, I hope you would agree with me.

also let me also share with you my experience:

I went to Toronto as an international student in sept 19xx. The second day I call the Chinese embassy in Toronto and told me that I was a Chinese and would like to register with them so that they knew I am in Toronto just in case ... The person who answer the phone was a lady and she said since I was not supported by the government, they are not responsible for me... I do not know how you wouldfeel about that when you hear this, but I just felt chilling all the way down to my heart. And it came to the Chinese national day, Oct 1. One week before the date, I called the consulate again and asked if there was any activity that I could participate in. Once again, they asked me if I was supported by the government, and when they learned that I am a Chinese student supported by my schloarship, the answer was: no, we do not have anything for you. After Oct 1, I started to see flyers all around U of T inviting all Chinese people for a party to celebrate Taiwan's National Holiday on Oct 10th. I went to the party ...

I do not want to put this into any perspectives, but my true personal experience. Now I have a Canadian passport, everywhere I go, I contact the local Canadian embassy/consulate and I never have any heart chilling answer like any more.

cheers.

 

[如假包换的马甲]

最初由 anti-virus 发布


I agree with you. But there are obviously something that they can to do serve our oversea Chinese better. In fact, as a Chinese government branch representing the Chinese people and the Chinese government, they are supposed to do their best. On this point, I hope you would agree with me.

also let me also share with you my experience:

I went to Toronto as an international student in sept 19xx. The second day I call the Chinese embassy in Toronto and told me that I was a Chinese and would like to register with them so that they knew I am in Toronto just in case ... The person who answer the phone was a lady and she said since I was not supported by the government, they are not responsible for me... I do not know how you wouldfeel about that when you hear this, but I just felt chilling all the way down to my heart. And it came to the Chinese national day, Oct 1. One week before the date, I called the consulate again and asked if there was any activity that I could participate in. Once again, they asked me if I was supported by the government, and when they learned that I am a Chinese student supported by my schloarship, the answer was: no, we do not have anything for you. After Oct 1, I started to see flyers all around U of T inviting all Chinese people for a party to celebrate Taiwan's National Holiday on Oct 10th. I went to the party ...

I do not want to put this into any perspectives, but my true personal experience. Now I have a Canadian passport, everywhere I go, I contact the local Canadian embassy/consulate and I never have any heart chilling answer like any more.

cheers.

oh, really? I don't have much experience with Chinese embassy, besides gettin a visa to china. I will be careful and don't get my hope high if I ever going to have to deal with them again.

 

[如假包换的马甲]

最初由 anti-virus 发布

I was not supported by the government, they are not responsible for me...

What's a government?

A government is supposed to responsible for all its citizen.

I found the our chinese's political ideas/ideals are pretty primitive.

 

[mooncake]

Someone who holds a Canadian/American passport and will go back to China or other countries recently can try something: knock the door to the Canadian/American embasscy around mid-night with a huge suitcase and ask for accommodation for a night, see what will happen. Let us know...
I guess the embasscy staff will point you the the closest hotel.

 

[否极泰来]

仔细想想，之所以会有这种感觉，是和我党的早期宣传有关系的。在人们的心目中，有困难找政府是应该的而且是会得到帮助的，不管这件事是不是政府该管的。

 

[某某]

最初由 mooncake 发布
Someone who holds a Canadian/American passport and will go back to China or other countries recently can try something: knock the door to the Canadian/American embasscy around mid-night with a huge suitcase and ask for accommodation for a night, see what will happen. Let us know...
I guess the embasscy staff will point you the the closest hotel.

the point is, the embassy staff most likely would POLITELY point you to the closest hotel.

 

[anti-virus]

最初由 mooncake 发布
Someone who holds a Canadian/American passport and will go back to China or other countries recently can try something: knock the door to the Canadian/American embasscy around mid-night with a huge suitcase and ask for accommodation for a night, see what will happen. Let us know...
I guess the embasscy staff will point you the the closest hotel.

once I was in an emergency in China (the details of which I would not want to share) and I called the Canadian embassy in Beijing. It was a Sunday afternoon and nobody was there to answer the call, but the call was directly transferred to Ottawa and one agent talked to me over the phone. I left my phone # in China with him and the next day the Canadian embassy in beijing contacted me and asked me if there was something that they could help me with.

 

[anti-virus]

最初由 ottawa248 发布
china government could do better for it's own citizen. however, it's not my biz, it's up to them, not me. i have no interest to discuss what they should do or should not. i just need to know what it is. if there is anything not working for me, what i will do is to move my position, not anybody else's.

the government is there For the people and serve the people, and for a responsible citizen, there is a word called: participation.

 

[Sabrina]

anti-virus 你真牛b.写这么多洋文,我也不知道你是中国人还是加拿大人或者是美国人.你以为你是谁呀.jjww一大堆.你牛b,半夜三更敲加拿大和美国大使馆的大门还拿着两个大箱子.我靠.你住在ottawa,你半夜三更拿两箱子去敲美国大使馆的门呀.你去呀.我估计你还没过马路就被击毙了.我劝你以后别上网乱显你的烂英文,因为你根本不懂中国.使馆人再不好,也是代表中国.有本事你去代表中国政府,你去参加六方会谈.要不中国驻加拿大的大使让你来当.要不你陪胡哥九月访美.你英文这么牛/

 

[农夫]

最初由 anti-virus 发布


once I was in an emergency in China (the details of which I would not want to share) and I called the Canadian embassy in Beijing. It was a Sunday afternoon and nobody was there to answer the call, but the call was directly transferred to Ottawa and one agent talked to me over the phone. I left my phone # in China with him and the next day the Canadian embassy in beijing contacted me and asked me if there was something that they could help me with.

谢谢ANTI-VIRUS的分享。这是一个现代政府的本分。

 

[姜大牙]

吃喝拉撒睡都管啊 ? 哪个国家的使领馆做得到 ?

最初由 anti-virus 发布


once I was in an emergency in China (the details of which I would not want to share) and I called the Canadian embassy in Beijing. It was a Sunday afternoon and nobody was there to answer the call, but the call was directly transferred to Ottawa and one agent talked to me over the phone. I left my phone # in China with him and the next day the Canadian embassy in beijing contacted me and asked me if there was something that they could help me with.

你说的是 emergency 的情况. emergency 的情况与楼主所说的情况是不能比的.楼主所说的下了飞机找住宿不能算是 emergency 吧 ? 不错,使领馆是应为本国的全体侨民提供服务的,不过不可能为你提供日常生活的服务.日常生活包括吃喝拉撒睡等等,无论哪个国家的使领馆都不会为一般的公民操持这些.

象楼主所说的,深更半夜去领事馆要求住宿, 或要求在门房间坐一夜的情况,相信无论在哪个国家都得被拒绝. 中国领馆最终不是让他住下了吗 ? 没有感谢倒也算了, 怎么还反倒得出中国人更恨中国人的结论呢 ?

 

[anti-virus]

最初由 Sabrina 发布
anti-virus 你真牛b.写这么多洋文,我也不知道你是中国人还是加拿大人或者是美国人.你以为你是谁呀.jjww一大堆.你牛b,半夜三更敲加拿大和美国大使馆的大门还拿着两个大箱子.我靠.你住在ottawa,你半夜三更拿两箱子去敲美国大使馆的门呀.你去呀.我估计你还没过马路就被击毙了.我劝你以后别上网乱显你的烂英文,因为你根本不懂中国.使馆人再不好,也是代表中国.有本事你去代表中国政府,你去参加六方会谈.要不中国驻加拿大的大使让你来当.要不你陪胡哥九月访美.你英文这么牛/

Dear Sabrina,

I hope my lousy English does not aggravate you yet another time. Thank you for your comments on my previous post, and you can trust me that I do my best to write correct English here as much as possible -- although sometimes my thinking takes over the writing thus I have typos here and there.

As far as the discussion concerned, it dose not matter who I am (by the way, this is the beauty of the internet, isn't it?). All I wanted to say is that the people who are working for the government and representing the country should realize whatever they do, they are the face of the country. Unfortunately, from what I experienced and what I read here, some of the country-representing people have failed to realize that.

I would never claim that I know China well after taking residence elsewhere many years ago, especially after one incident about 5 years ago where a street mob of 5 beat me up at a crowded street around noon time in front of about 200 onlookers in Beijing, and nobody did anything. While I was on the groud being kicked in the face, the head and the stomach, all I was thinking was that I was going to die. Fortunately, I survived. The local police concluded it was a street fight, bad people fighting bad people. I cut my trip short and came back. The X-ray here showed that my spine was fractured bacause of huge external impact on that site. This explained why I had numbness on one side of my body below the site of injury. All I did in China that day was to refuse to buy a roasted duck that the vendor was trying to sell me and said it was not clean. I have never gone back China since.

sorry for letting my emotion run high. Cheers.

 

[如假包换的马甲]

最初由 ottawa248 发布
do what works. that's what i am talking about, and what you did.

giving up your homeland citizenship is your way of participation, obviously it works for you.

It's so funny. You have the candadian flag as u r icon while he uses the Chinese flag.