[问题] 十字路口，左拐和右拐谁优先？

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最初由 Teddy 发布
No doubt at all -> 红车优先 (前提: 一条 lane)

Why it must be single lane? It does not matter how many lanes.

 

[qiuyi_01]

我觉得当然应该是绿车先行；理由是：

绿车左拐，到与红车碰头的时候就已经先进了横向的traffic了,这时红车右拐是属于merge into traffi，当然要让。这是谁现在在traffic里谁有优先权的原则，谁merge 谁让，就如同通向并行，换lane的要让。

-所以楼上有人说自己在十字路口等对面的先右拐，当然要被后面人笛了。


谁在现在自己方向的traffic 里谁有优先。

我只想知道有没有权威的地方可以确认一下？

 

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Re: 我觉得当然应该是绿车先行；理由是：

最初由 qiuyi_01 发布
绿车左拐，到与红车碰头的时候就已经先进了横向的traffic了,这时红车右拐是属于merge into traffi，当然要让。这是谁现在在traffic里谁有优先权的原则，谁merge 谁让，就如同通向并行，换lane的要让。

-所以楼上有人说自己在十字路口等对面的先右拐，当然要被后面人笛了。


谁在现在自己方向的traffic 里谁有优先。

我只想知道有没有权威的地方可以确认一下？

如果红车改主意了,直行,会怎么样? 关键是,红车是否有优先权。另外,红车右转，无论如何都会先进入主道,如果出事故,也是绿车追尾,是绿车的责任。

这是ＭＴＯ网站上的交通规则：
At any intersection where you want to turn left or right, you must yield the right-of-way. If you are turning left, you must wait for approaching traffic to pass or turn and for pedestrians in your path to cross. If you are turning right, you must wait for pedestrians to cross if they are in your path (Diagram 2-13).

去这里看，上面有图解：http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/dandv/driver/handbook/section2b3.htm

 

[sizhu]

"绿车左拐，到与红车碰头的时候就已经先进了横向的traffic了, 这时红车右拐是属于merge into traffi，当然要让。"

你看来开车比较猛

你看见红车来,打着右灯, 就应该等着

按你的说法, 就可以抢着先转进去,是吧

如果时间很宽裕, 当然可以

但是, 两个车有可能撞, 说明时间不够, 你当然不能这样抢!

你要真这样开车, 人家看见了, 当然会让你拉, 你吓都吓坏他

如果他没注意, 就撞拉

 

[gooddriver]

Re: Re: 我觉得当然应该是绿车先行；理由是：

最初由 ccc 发布

这是ＭＴＯ网站上的交通规则：
At any intersection where you want to turn left or right, you must yield the right-of-way. If you are turning left, you must wait for approaching traffic to pass or turn and for pedestrians in your path to cross. If you are turning right, you must wait for pedestrians to cross if they are in your path (Diagram 2-13).

去这里看，上面有图解：http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/dandv/driver/handbook/section2b3.htm

http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/dandv/driver/handbook/section2b3.htm

这个真值得看看，比如上面提到的情况“If you are turning left, you must wait for approaching traffic to pass or turn”，还有提醒“signalling does not give you the right-of-way. You must make sure the way is clear. ”

 

[sizhu]

"You must make sure the way is clear"

this is always true, and driving with caution

 

[吻下去?上?]

right of way

 

[ccc]

如果对交通规则不熟悉或忘记了，还是手头有本书或到ＭＴＯ的网站看看。交通法规是明确的，不能由我们个人去解释或靠推理得出结论。道听途说的更靠不住（尽管交通法规很多条款都是常识ＣＯＭＭＯＮ　ＳＥＮＳＥ）。

开车的时候，不知道谁有优先权（谁该先行），是很容易出问题的。

 

[Teddy]

You are right. The red car always has the right of the road. However, every parties must be cautious in practice if there are more than one lane.

最初由 ccc 发布


Why it must be single lane? It does not matter how many lanes.

 

[qiuyi_01]

Re: Re: 我觉得当然应该是绿车先行；理由是：

最初由 ccc 发布


如果红车改主意了,直行,会怎么样? 关键是,红车是否有优先权。另外,红车右转，无论如何都会先进入主道,如果出事故,也是绿车追尾,是绿车的责任。

如果是追尾，当然是谁追尾谁的错。但是，如果绿车已经左转了，到了与即将右转的红车面前，这时如果两个人都不相让，就会碰头了。

这个时刻，注意，是在绿车已经事先进入intersection的traffic时，这时红车有优先权么？

如果绿车还没有进入intersection，那就另当别论了

最初由 ccc 发布

At any intersection where you want to turn left or right, you must yield the right-of-way. If you are turning left, you must wait for approaching traffic to pass or turn (Diagram 2-13).

去这里看，上面有图解：http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/dandv/driver/handbook/section2b3.htm

it's not clear here in the text itself, note the first sentence says if you want turn "left or rigt", you must yield. in our case, that means green car must yield to the approching traffic, ie those that don't turn, and the red car, because it turns, it must yield, in our case to the green car that has already entered the traffic and the intersection.

another thing that seems to me ambiguous here is, is the red car in our case, whichi is about to turn right, part of the "approching traffic"? to me it's not, because it's turning, only traffic that go straight past the intersection counts as "approching traffic".

any the from the cited txt, it's still not very clear who should yield.

to answer the quesiton of "what if the red car changes idea and chooses not to turn?" I think I didn't make my question clear: my question should've been "should the red car yield to the green one which is already in the intersection?". it's self-evident that the driver of green car has already determined that there's no approching traffic.
btw,we are discussing sth that it not clear so stop this patronising tone.

 

[ccc]

Re: Re: Re: 我觉得当然应该是绿车先行；理由是：

最初由 qiuyi_01 发布


如果是追尾，当然是谁追尾谁的错。但是，如果绿车已经左转了，到了与即将右转的红车面前，这时如果两个人都不相让，就会碰头了。

这个时刻，注意，是在绿车已经事先进入intersection的traffic时，这时红车有优先权么？

如果绿车还没有进入intersection，那就另当别论了





it's not clear here in the text itself, note the first sentence says if you want turn "left or rigt", you must yield. in our case, that means green car must yield to the approching traffic, ie those that don't turn, and the red car, because it turns, it must yield, in our case to the green car that has already entered the traffic and the intersection.

another thing that seems to me ambiguous here is, is the red car in our case, whichi is about to turn right, part of the "approching traffic"? to me it's not, because it's turning, only traffic that go straight past the intersection counts as "approching traffic".

any the from the cited txt, it's still not very clear who should yield.

to answer the quesiton of "what if the red car changes idea and chooses not to turn?" I think I didn't make my question clear: my question should've been "should the red car yield to the green one which is already in the intersection?". it's self-evident that the driver of green car has already determined that there's no approching traffic.
btw,we are discussing sth that it not clear so stop this patronising tone.

The MTO regulations are clear enough without any confusion. That is, in answering LZ's Q, the red car has the right of way. Just this simple.

 

[一般化]

如果是两条LANE，绿车进左道，红车进右道，不会出问题。

不过不管怎么样，要USE CAUTION。

 

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最初由 一般化 发布
如果是两条LANE，绿车进左道，红车进右道，不会出问题。

不过不管怎么样，要USE CAUTION。

Fingers crossed. If anything went wrong, the driver of the green car would be ticketed.

 

[某某]

但是如果红车有yield sign，就必须让绿车的

 

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最初由 某某 发布
但是如果红车有yield sign，就必须让绿车的

Of course. But this is not the case here. There are separate rules on the Yield or Stop signs.