有?流的公民就有?流的政治

[roaring mouse]

最初由 wushuren 发布


这个有道理，而且也正在发生，不需要人为干预。现在应该注重伊朗方向。我们关心这个是因为要预测，以后我们会不会再去骑马和坐马车。哈哈。

the two world wars told us there was too much blood to conquer this world. US did not learn this. they fought the korea war and the vietnam war, two dumb wars leading nowhere. they now seemed to have learned that you do not need a world war to conquer this world. they might have learned this from the Art of War (President Hu gave G.W. a copy when he visited white house), winnning a war without going to war. how? by controlling the lifeline of the world, the oil and other natural resources. first it is the middle east, Iraq, Iran and other dominos (i mean other smaller oil countries that will fall like dominos) and then it will be russia. once they are under control, the 3rd world war is over and we have a new emperor. the strategic error US made in the last 2 centuries is its failure to control Canada. Now with the world under its arm, Canada will offer to combine into US.

 

[wushuren]

最初由 roaring mouse 发布


the two world wars told us there was too much blood to conquer this world. US did not learn this. they fought the korea war and the vietnam war, two dumb wars leading nowhere. they now seemed to have learned that you do not need a world war to conquer this world. they might have learned this from the Art of War (President Hu gave G.W. a copy when he visited white house), winnning a war without going to war. how? by controlling the lifeline of the world, the oil and other natural resources. first it is the middle east, Iraq, Iran and other dominos (i mean other smaller oil countries that will fall like dominos) and then it will be russia. once they are under control, the 3rd world war is over and we have a new emperor. the strategic error US made in the last 2 centuries is its failure to control Canada. Now with the world under its arm, Canada will offer to combine into US.

这战略构想确实不错。

美国人通过反恐战争为借口，控制伊拉克和中东，控制中亚石油产地。

始终怀疑美国就是圣经启示录中说的大巴比伦。它占领的伊拉克就是古巴比伦所在地，现在在他的掌握下。大巴比伦不是指回教势力。大巴比伦是个女人，坐着一匹7角10头的兽。罗马就是7山之城。美国被称为现代罗马帝国。自由女神就是个女的，位于纽约，是美国标志和象征。

美国人的对孙子兵法的理解并不高明。虽然选对了战略方向，却没有用对战略，别人也都不是傻子，不会让它控制石油生命线的企图得逞。他最终走向了战争，也要吃亏于战争。因为它确实陷入了反恐战争模式。
首先，因为它自身的局限，他无法搞定伊拉克，无法克服反恐战争模式从而成为地球联盟人民解放军，所以搞定伊朗也不可能。
克林顿时代的美国不轻易出击，也很谨慎。牛仔终于忍不住了。或者知难而退，或者霸王硬上弓。帝国成败在此一举。

 

[wushuren]

最后会有一股强大力量控制住这个世界的石油生命线和解放这个世界，所谓的后发制人。这场大战要在中东开始，也在中东结束。现在这年头，在电影中，什么样的神仙下凡镜头都可以拍出来。我的说法不一定对，但真的不认为耶稣再来是用神仙下凡那样的特技镜头。可圣经中的预言是要被应验的，那只说明圣经的强大和权威性。

 

[roaring mouse]

最初由 wushuren 发布
最后会有一股强大力量控制住这个世界的石油生命线和解放这个世界，所谓的后发制人。这场大战要在中东开始，也在中东结束。现在这年头，在电影中，什么样的神仙下凡镜头都可以拍出来。我的说法不一定对，但真的不认为耶稣再来是用神仙下凡那样的特技镜头。可圣经中的预言是要被应验的，那只说明圣经的强大和权威性。

圣经中的预言是要被应验. do u know the world ends in fire or ice? that is an important question. i will prepare accordingly.

 

[wushuren]

最初由 roaring mouse 发布


圣经中的预言是要被应验. do u know the world ends in fire or ice? that is an important question. i will prepare accordingly.

也许，你我都赶不上世界末日。如果是核战争模式，应该是先热，后冷，所谓的核冬天。

 

[roaring mouse]

最初由 wushuren 发布

也许，你我都赶不上世界末日。如果是核战争模式，应该是先热，后冷，所谓的核冬天。

do u care about that? as a christian, u will go to heaven after death. fire or ice should not matter to u.

for me, a different story. i have to sure if it is fire or ice. if first fire, then ice. i only care about fire. if i get killed by fire, i wound not worry about ice. who worry about being killed twice? only one i think worries about that.

if the world ends in ice, then fire, it will be much better. there are ready made winter clothing. no, it will not work. ice at the end of the world would be far colder than clothing can protect.

if nukes end the world, we would be happy because we know end by something known, not like the unpredictable, like, the black hole, that sucks the earth into it. heaven and hell might be in the black hole. once sucked in, people, dead or alive (if any one alive) will be sorted. hope i have chance to say goodbye to u as u definitely will head to heaven, me to hell, hopefully not too deep in hell, the top is best as i can see both heaven and hell. am i alive in hell?

 

[wushuren]

我猜，美国人这次要知难而退的。布什已经快下台了。世界末日到不了。除非布什的接班人上台，接着干。

 

[roaring mouse]

最初由 wushuren 发布
我猜，美国人这次要知难而退的。布什已经快下台了。世界末日到不了。除非布什的接班人上台，接着干。

what if iran nukes israel? will there the world be ended?

 

[wushuren]

最初由 roaring mouse 发布


do u care about that? as a christian, u will go to heaven after death. fire or ice should not matter to u.

for me, a different story. i have to sure if it is fire or ice. if first fire, then ice. i only care about fire. if i get killed by fire, i wound not worry about ice. who worry about being killed twice? only one i think worries about that.

if the world ends in ice, then fire, it will be much better. there are ready made winter clothing. no, it will not work. ice at the end of the world would be far colder than clothing can protect.

if nukes end the world, we would be happy because we know end by something known, not like the unpredictable, like, the black hole, that sucks the earth into it. heaven and hell might be in the black hole. once sucked in, people, dead or alive (if any one alive) will be sorted. hope i have chance to say goodbye to u as u definitely will head to heaven, me to hell, hopefully not too deep in hell, the top is best as i can see both heaven and hell. am i alive in hell?

俺有时候有个奇怪的感觉，上帝可能就是未来人类突破了自身的限制以后和整个世界的结合物和共同体。超越了时空，生死。
从科幻小说的角度来说，例如时空界限被打破，基因控制技术被完全掌握，原子的奥秘的完全发现。如果没有上帝那样的高水准，一定是一场灾难。

人如果有灵魂，那么在灵魂出鞘以后，最好是到宇宙中的各处飞翔，到处看，到处玩和旅游。宇宙足够大，不怕拥挤。要是总停留在冥王星那么冷的地方，水星那么热的地方，哪里也不让去，也去不了，而且也死不了，因为已经死了。或者被困在地球的熔岩中。虽然灵魂既不怕热，也不怕凉，上亿年地被太阳烤，被冰冻，被硫磺薰，被熔岩泡，虽然没啥感觉，可一定非常的Boring.
烦得想自杀都不成，因为已经死了。那真让灵魂受不了。

 

[contractor]

冷战时期，一边是资本主义国家，另一边是社会主义国家，但两边都不是疯子。

伊朗很难说，当一个国家的领导人相信还存在另一个世界的时候，他什么都干得出来。而类似老中们的唯物主义者们很清楚，肉体的消失，意味着世界的结束。

据说伊斯兰自杀炸弹分子们被告知，通过自杀炸弹而死，可以直接升入天堂，而且有众多处女加美女伺候。

 

[roaring mouse]

最初由 wushuren 发布


俺有时候有个奇怪的感觉，上帝可能就是未来人类突破了自身的限制以后和整个世界的结合物和共同体。超越了时空，生死。
从科幻小说的角度来说，例如时空界限被打破，基因控制技术被完全掌握，原子的奥秘的完全发现。如果没有上帝那样的高水准，一定是一场灾难。

人如果有灵魂，那么在灵魂出鞘以后，最好是到宇宙中的各处飞翔，到处看，到处玩和旅游。宇宙足够大，不怕拥挤。要是总停留在冥王星那么冷的地方，水星那么热的地方，哪里也不让去，也去不了，而且也死不了，因为已经死了。或者被困在地球的熔岩中。虽然灵魂既不怕热，也不怕凉，上亿年地被太阳烤，被冰冻，被硫磺薰，被熔岩泡，虽然没啥感觉，可一定非常的Boring.
烦得想自杀都不成，因为已经死了。那真让灵魂受不了。

that is the agony of being a christian. i would not worry about that. i am dead and i am dead. for me, the world ends with me. the ether world beyond? seeing is believing.

remember the story by LuShun? a woman kept worrying about her body cutting half to accomodate her two husbands? if she did not have that kind of believe, she would not have that kind of worry.

will your soul touch the face of god when it wanders through space?

 

[roaring mouse]

最初由 contractor 发布
冷战时期，一边是资本主义国家，另一边是社会主义国家，但两边都不是疯子。

伊朗很难说，当一个国家的领导人相信还存在另一个世界的时候，他什么都干得出来。而类似老中们的唯物主义者们很清楚，肉体的消失，意味着世界的结束。

据说伊斯兰自杀炸弹分子们被告知，通过自杀炸弹而死，可以直接升入天堂，而且有众多处女加美女伺候。

during cold war, they had MAD (mutual atomic destruction). so no one dared to start a real war lightly.

israel has dozens of nuke. i read a paper long ago saying israel if sensing its end is near will release the nukes. hopefully that will not be enough to end the world. we are not israel's enemy; we are not iran's enemy; we are not us's enemy. we chinese should be the only one left on earth if any one is left because we are enemy of nobody.

 

[roaring mouse]

最初由 wushuren 发布
我猜，美国人这次要知难而退的。布什已经快下台了。世界末日到不了。除非布什的接班人上台，接着干。

the US dollar is down; oil is up. buy some oil funds and you will be ok with your gas bills. biotechs are slaughtered past few days.

 

[wushuren]

最初由 roaring mouse 发布


that is the agony of being a christian. i would not worry about that. i am dead and i am dead. for me, the world ends with me. the ether world beyond? seeing is believing.

remember the story by LuShun? a woman kept worrying about her body cutting half to accomodate her two husbands? if she did not have that kind of believe, she would not have that kind of worry.

will your soul touch the face of god when it wanders through space?

当人们还没有太空知识的时候，只能想象，有了太空知识了，却好像更清楚了。冰冻火烤之类的地方，硫磺火湖之类的地方，这个世界上真的有很多，从来不缺货，不怕地方不够用。如果是现代基督徒描述地狱，那随便往太空一指，就有这样的地方。如果按照无数人派的解释，不信基督教，死后灵魂也不一定要去那种地方的。无数人派也不说自己的解释就是完全正确的，也不认为以前的基督教解释就是完全正确的。

祥林嫂那说法，是来自中国的古代佛道之类的想象。