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估计我这个帖子犯了本坛“排队”大老们的胃口了，一下子减了我上千点声望。我其实是想鞭策一下本坛子的作家们，与其“排队”搞浮夸声望，不如写点像ert0000 提出的素材，具有社会责任感的小说来。（
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新的Acer 4200应该价值650+tax, 即使卖二手也能至少卖450以上. 看看这个15岁的居然开价100后,降到50,最后60成交.
有这么成交的吗? 如果没有胁迫或事主山穷水尽,袋中空空,能这样吗?
我在这里英文的二手市场 卖过这么多东西, 也卖过新一点的二手电脑,见过还价50%的,还没见过这么还价的.
globeandmail.com: 'Please kill me,' accused pleads
JOE FRIESEN
From Wednesday's Globe and Mail
August 5, 2008 at 8:32 PM EDT
ERICKSON, MAN. — Vince Li stood in a Manitoba courtroom Tuesday pleading for it all to end.
“Please kill me,” he said quietly, in a court packed with journalists and members of the victim's family.
Mr. Li, 40, is accused of stabbing and beheading 22-year-old Tim McLean, a complete stranger, who was sleeping next to him on a Greyhound bus bound for Winnipeg on July 30.
The judge ordered a psychiatric assessment to determine whether Mr. Li is fit to stand trial and whether he can be held criminally responsible for his actions. He has so far refused to speak to a lawyer.
Vince Weiguang Li, suspect in the murder of Tim McLean aboard a Greyhound bus in Manitoba, is escorted by sheriff officers on his way to a court appearance on Tuesday. (Reuters)
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Court was told Mr. Li spent four days in a Canadian psychiatric facility at some point, but the Crown is still trying to determine where and when. Crown lawyer Joyce Dalmyn said Mr. Li has not yet offered any explanation for what occurred aboard Greyhound 1170.
“No explanation, no note, almost nothing verbal,” Ms. Dalmyn said. “There is nothing to indicate it's anything other than a random and unprovoked attack.”
Meanwhile, new details have emerged about how Mr. Li spent the 24 hours before Mr. McLean was killed, including that he spent a night on a public bench, sold a laptop to a teenager that contained personal letters and photos, as well as a note that expressed feelings of guilt at leaving China, and confusion about life in Canada.
Mr. Li first stepped off the Greyhound bus from Edmonton in the tiny western Manitoba town of Erickson, population 456, just before 6 p.m. last Tuesday, July 29.
He strode across the street from the convenience store, which doubles as a bus depot, carrying five pieces of luggage under his arms. He was wearing small black sunglasses, a green shirt and a hat, and looked perfectly put together, like a businessman, said Darren Beatty, a 15-year-old student who works at a local gas station.
“The whole time I seen him he never took off his sunglasses,” Mr. Beatty said.
He watched him sit down on a shaded wooden bench next to the Co-Op grocery on Main Street, arranging his bags around him and resting his arms as though he were sitting in an arm chair.
He didn't move for the next three hours.
Around 9 p.m., he walked into the M and M store, where David Dauphinais's husband Darren was working alone.
Mr. Li hung around for what felt like ages, making Darren extremely uncomfortable. He called his husband, saying he was afraid to walk home.
“He was really freaked out,” Mr. Dauphinais said. “He said there was something about this guy that made the hair on the back of his neck stand up.
“Darren's a treaty Indian. When Darren gets nervous about somebody, I listen.”
Mr. Dauphinais rushed back from a meeting, only to find that Mr. Li had left the store when another customer walked in.
That night neither could sleep, fretting about the mysterious stranger. Mr. Dauphinais got out of bed at 3 a.m. and went down to check on his store. He saw Mr. Li sitting across the street, bolt upright on the bench, eyes wide open.
The following morning, Mr. Beatty was riding his bike when he saw a laptop on the curb. The screen was open and a hand-written sign said “$600 for sale, or best offer.”
He circled on his bike, noted the brand-new Acer 4200, and approached Mr. Li.
He offered $100, then immediately lowered it to $50. Mr. Li contemplated for a moment.
“That's probably enough to get you a bus ticket,” Mr. Beatty said. They settled on $60, plus a bag.
“I just thought he was a guy having a hard time,” he said, adding he never felt threatened. “He seemed lost. As I was talking to him about [the laptop] he muttered something about America. He had a thick accent so it was hard to understand.
“He seemed really happy to get some money in his hand.”
Mr. Beatty brought the computer home, and, after returning to get the password from Mr. Li (it was 7777), he unwittingly opened a window on the world of a man who would soon become one of Canada's most notorious accused killers.
He found more than 20 resumes, each tailored to a specific job application. One was for a police service, one for McDonald's, one for Wal-Mart. He also found dozens of photos that he assumed were taken by Mr. Li, including several of a black military plane that he thought were taken by an amateur in mid-air. There were photos of a formal Chinese military parade, and others of Chinese models in clothes, and some of mountains in British Columbia.
There was a letter in Mandarin, translated with Google translator, which seemed to be addressed to someone back in China. It said he was happy to be free, living under beautiful, free skies, but that he felt guilty for leaving China, and that everything in Canada was not as he expected, Mr. Beatty said.
Mr. Li, who recently worked as a newspaper deliveryman, immigrated to Canada in 2001 under the federal skilled worker program, though it's not known whether it was Mr. Li or his wife Anna who qualified. He's believed to be a Canadian citizen.
On the morning after the attack, Mr. Beatty got a call from the RCMP at work, saying an incident had occurred involving the man who sold him his laptop. An officer visited his home and seized the computer, saying he might get restitution but wasn't likely to get the laptop back.
“I asked the cop, “Did he use my money to buy a weapon? But he said, ‘No, not that we know of,' ” Mr. Beatty said.
Mr. Li returned to the M and M store around 1:30 p.m. Mr. Dauphinais said he stood waiting in an alley behind the store for the next 41/2 hours for the bus to arrive.
Just before 6 p.m., he boarded the Greyhound in Erickson, not Brandon as several witnesses reported, and sat down near the front. After a cigarette break in Brandon, he moved to the back and sat next to Mr. McLean.
Court was told Tuesday that when he was arrested, Mr. Li was carrying a plastic bag containing a human nose, ear and part of a mouth, believed to be Mr. McLean's, and that police officers saw him hacking at and eating the corpse. During the ensuing standoff RCMP officers heard him say, “I have to stay on the bus forever.”
Mr. Li's next court appearance is Sept. 8.
有这么成交的吗? 如果没有胁迫或事主山穷水尽,袋中空空,能这样吗?
我在这里英文的二手市场 卖过这么多东西, 也卖过新一点的二手电脑,见过还价50%的,还没见过这么还价的.
globeandmail.com: 'Please kill me,' accused pleads
JOE FRIESEN
From Wednesday's Globe and Mail
August 5, 2008 at 8:32 PM EDT
ERICKSON, MAN. — Vince Li stood in a Manitoba courtroom Tuesday pleading for it all to end.
“Please kill me,” he said quietly, in a court packed with journalists and members of the victim's family.
Mr. Li, 40, is accused of stabbing and beheading 22-year-old Tim McLean, a complete stranger, who was sleeping next to him on a Greyhound bus bound for Winnipeg on July 30.
The judge ordered a psychiatric assessment to determine whether Mr. Li is fit to stand trial and whether he can be held criminally responsible for his actions. He has so far refused to speak to a lawyer.
First public words of beheading accused
00:01:33Family remembers bus victim's easy laugh
Tim McLean was a free spirit who warmed the hearts of those around him with his infectious laugh, his family says
00:01:17
Alleged bus killer appears in court
Vince Weiguang Li appears in Manitoba courtroom to face charge of second-degree murder
Horrific incident on Manitoba bus
Young man travelling on Greyhound bus stabbed to death and beheaded by stranger.
Play Video
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- <LI _counted="undefined">Bus slaying suspect chose quiet, solitary work <LI _counted="undefined">Pastor saw 'no risk' in hiring man charged in beheading <LI _counted="undefined">Beheadings as dinner conversation <LI _counted="undefined">Family remember Tim McLean as charming free spirit <LI _counted="undefined">Beheading victim 'never got into a single fight in his whole life'
- How a madman's blade cut Tim McLean's reunion short
Court was told Mr. Li spent four days in a Canadian psychiatric facility at some point, but the Crown is still trying to determine where and when. Crown lawyer Joyce Dalmyn said Mr. Li has not yet offered any explanation for what occurred aboard Greyhound 1170.
“No explanation, no note, almost nothing verbal,” Ms. Dalmyn said. “There is nothing to indicate it's anything other than a random and unprovoked attack.”
Meanwhile, new details have emerged about how Mr. Li spent the 24 hours before Mr. McLean was killed, including that he spent a night on a public bench, sold a laptop to a teenager that contained personal letters and photos, as well as a note that expressed feelings of guilt at leaving China, and confusion about life in Canada.
Mr. Li first stepped off the Greyhound bus from Edmonton in the tiny western Manitoba town of Erickson, population 456, just before 6 p.m. last Tuesday, July 29.
He strode across the street from the convenience store, which doubles as a bus depot, carrying five pieces of luggage under his arms. He was wearing small black sunglasses, a green shirt and a hat, and looked perfectly put together, like a businessman, said Darren Beatty, a 15-year-old student who works at a local gas station.
“The whole time I seen him he never took off his sunglasses,” Mr. Beatty said.
He watched him sit down on a shaded wooden bench next to the Co-Op grocery on Main Street, arranging his bags around him and resting his arms as though he were sitting in an arm chair.
He didn't move for the next three hours.
Around 9 p.m., he walked into the M and M store, where David Dauphinais's husband Darren was working alone.
Mr. Li hung around for what felt like ages, making Darren extremely uncomfortable. He called his husband, saying he was afraid to walk home.
“He was really freaked out,” Mr. Dauphinais said. “He said there was something about this guy that made the hair on the back of his neck stand up.
“Darren's a treaty Indian. When Darren gets nervous about somebody, I listen.”
Mr. Dauphinais rushed back from a meeting, only to find that Mr. Li had left the store when another customer walked in.
That night neither could sleep, fretting about the mysterious stranger. Mr. Dauphinais got out of bed at 3 a.m. and went down to check on his store. He saw Mr. Li sitting across the street, bolt upright on the bench, eyes wide open.
The following morning, Mr. Beatty was riding his bike when he saw a laptop on the curb. The screen was open and a hand-written sign said “$600 for sale, or best offer.”
He circled on his bike, noted the brand-new Acer 4200, and approached Mr. Li.
He offered $100, then immediately lowered it to $50. Mr. Li contemplated for a moment.
“That's probably enough to get you a bus ticket,” Mr. Beatty said. They settled on $60, plus a bag.
“I just thought he was a guy having a hard time,” he said, adding he never felt threatened. “He seemed lost. As I was talking to him about [the laptop] he muttered something about America. He had a thick accent so it was hard to understand.
“He seemed really happy to get some money in his hand.”
Mr. Beatty brought the computer home, and, after returning to get the password from Mr. Li (it was 7777), he unwittingly opened a window on the world of a man who would soon become one of Canada's most notorious accused killers.
He found more than 20 resumes, each tailored to a specific job application. One was for a police service, one for McDonald's, one for Wal-Mart. He also found dozens of photos that he assumed were taken by Mr. Li, including several of a black military plane that he thought were taken by an amateur in mid-air. There were photos of a formal Chinese military parade, and others of Chinese models in clothes, and some of mountains in British Columbia.
There was a letter in Mandarin, translated with Google translator, which seemed to be addressed to someone back in China. It said he was happy to be free, living under beautiful, free skies, but that he felt guilty for leaving China, and that everything in Canada was not as he expected, Mr. Beatty said.
Mr. Li, who recently worked as a newspaper deliveryman, immigrated to Canada in 2001 under the federal skilled worker program, though it's not known whether it was Mr. Li or his wife Anna who qualified. He's believed to be a Canadian citizen.
On the morning after the attack, Mr. Beatty got a call from the RCMP at work, saying an incident had occurred involving the man who sold him his laptop. An officer visited his home and seized the computer, saying he might get restitution but wasn't likely to get the laptop back.
“I asked the cop, “Did he use my money to buy a weapon? But he said, ‘No, not that we know of,' ” Mr. Beatty said.
Mr. Li returned to the M and M store around 1:30 p.m. Mr. Dauphinais said he stood waiting in an alley behind the store for the next 41/2 hours for the bus to arrive.
Just before 6 p.m., he boarded the Greyhound in Erickson, not Brandon as several witnesses reported, and sat down near the front. After a cigarette break in Brandon, he moved to the back and sat next to Mr. McLean.
Court was told Tuesday that when he was arrested, Mr. Li was carrying a plastic bag containing a human nose, ear and part of a mouth, believed to be Mr. McLean's, and that police officers saw him hacking at and eating the corpse. During the ensuing standoff RCMP officers heard him say, “I have to stay on the bus forever.”
Mr. Li's next court appearance is Sept. 8.
what I said is below:
"
you are sick!!!
按照你的讲法,在中国各大城市包受侮辱和欺压的农民工更有权利杀人放火了? LI 案他有没有承被人歧视或侮辱还是问号.农民工们被侮辱和歧视可是事实. 有网友讲过一天到晚唠叨歧视的往往是LOSER,看来这话有点道理.一件偶然发生的案件,没必要拿他大张旗鼓的做文章,发泄对社会的不满, 大部分华人在加拿大过的都挺好,有空,多想想多学学,把日子也过的好点 "
you said "你的言语中对目前没找到专业工作的同胞的态度应该是很容易理解清楚的" , how could you get it from what I said? Are you ok?
first of all most chinese in canada are doing ok, at least their life get better and better, that is the fact. I don't wanna educate anybody, it is not my duty. just give out my 2 cents. that's it. hope you have a better life too.
secondly,"杀该杀的人放该放的火" what you mean? Mr Li 杀该杀的人le?
Mr Li's 生存权利和尊严被压缩到极限 becauseof the poor guy who got killed ?
Are you illiterate or you have comprehension problem?
I talked about 中国各大城市包受侮辱和欺压的农民工 when I said "杀该杀的人放该放的火" and 生存权利和尊严被压缩到极限 .... understand???
There are some similarities between Li's case and the Chinese underprivileged people, just as there are also differences too. How could you just equate Li's case directly with 农民工??? are you dumb?
you talked about not wanting to educate anybody, but the fact is, that you did! clearly, you are a kind of person who don't even know what you are really talking about!
I hate talking to people like this. It's so damn hard to straighten very simple things up for them and making senses to them.
好像是很可怜哦，连电脑都卖了。
但我当年银行里只有$300，下月房租就要交$255的时候, 我连电脑都没得卖.我怎么就只是想到赶快多打份工. 好凑足下期的学费. 怎么就没想到去砍人呢?
当时好像能在晚上自己在餐馆炒个菜, 带回来和老婆分享(老婆会一直等我到晚上10点才吃饭)就是很满足的事了.
和穷兄弟们整两菜,来箱啤酒,那就算度假了.
还是那句话, 穷和潦倒不是砍人的理由.
只要心中有目标,手上不放弃, 再加夫妻同心, 那就是天堂.
不一定非得玉食豪宅,喧衣怒马才叫幸福,才不去砍人....
但我当年银行里只有$300，下月房租就要交$255的时候, 我连电脑都没得卖.我怎么就只是想到赶快多打份工. 好凑足下期的学费. 怎么就没想到去砍人呢?
当时好像能在晚上自己在餐馆炒个菜, 带回来和老婆分享(老婆会一直等我到晚上10点才吃饭)就是很满足的事了.
和穷兄弟们整两菜,来箱啤酒,那就算度假了.
还是那句话, 穷和潦倒不是砍人的理由.
只要心中有目标,手上不放弃, 再加夫妻同心, 那就是天堂.
不一定非得玉食豪宅,喧衣怒马才叫幸福,才不去砍人....
新的Acer 4200应该价值650+tax, 即使卖二手也能至少卖450以上. 看看这个15岁的居然开价100后,降到50,最后60成交.
有这么成交的吗? 如果没有胁迫或事主山穷水尽,袋中空空,能这样吗?
我在这里英文的二手市场 卖过这么多东西, 也卖过新一点的二手电脑,见过还价50%的,还没见过这么还价的.
globeandmail.com: 'Please kill me,' accused pleads
JOE FRIESEN
From Wednesday's Globe and Mail
August 5, 2008 at 8:32 PM EDT
ERICKSON, MAN. — Vince Li stood in a Manitoba courtroom Tuesday pleading for it all to end.
“Please kill me,” he said quietly, in a court packed with journalists and members of the victim's family.
Mr. Li, 40, is accused of stabbing and beheading 22-year-old Tim McLean, a complete stranger, who was sleeping next to him on a Greyhound bus bound for Winnipeg on July 30.
The judge ordered a psychiatric assessment to determine whether Mr. Li is fit to stand trial and whether he can be held criminally responsible for his actions. He has so far refused to speak to a lawyer.
Vince Weiguang Li, suspect in the murder of Tim McLean aboard a Greyhound bus in Manitoba, is escorted by sheriff officers on his way to a court appearance on Tuesday. (Reuters)
First public words of beheading accused
Play Video
00:01:33Family remembers bus victim's easy laugh
Tim McLean was a free spirit who warmed the hearts of those around him with his infectious laugh, his family says
Play Video
00:01:17
Alleged bus killer appears in court
Vince Weiguang Li appears in Manitoba courtroom to face charge of second-degree murder
Play Video
Horrific incident on Manitoba bus
Young man travelling on Greyhound bus stabbed to death and beheaded by stranger.
Play Video
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Recent
- <LI _counted="undefined">Bus slaying suspect chose quiet, solitary work <LI _counted="undefined">Pastor saw 'no risk' in hiring man charged in beheading <LI _counted="undefined">Beheadings as dinner conversation <LI _counted="undefined">Family remember Tim McLean as charming free spirit <LI _counted="undefined">Beheading victim 'never got into a single fight in his whole life'
- How a madman's blade cut Tim McLean's reunion short
Court was told Mr. Li spent four days in a Canadian psychiatric facility at some point, but the Crown is still trying to determine where and when. Crown lawyer Joyce Dalmyn said Mr. Li has not yet offered any explanation for what occurred aboard Greyhound 1170.
“No explanation, no note, almost nothing verbal,” Ms. Dalmyn said. “There is nothing to indicate it's anything other than a random and unprovoked attack.”
Meanwhile, new details have emerged about how Mr. Li spent the 24 hours before Mr. McLean was killed, including that he spent a night on a public bench, sold a laptop to a teenager that contained personal letters and photos, as well as a note that expressed feelings of guilt at leaving China, and confusion about life in Canada.
Mr. Li first stepped off the Greyhound bus from Edmonton in the tiny western Manitoba town of Erickson, population 456, just before 6 p.m. last Tuesday, July 29.
He strode across the street from the convenience store, which doubles as a bus depot, carrying five pieces of luggage under his arms. He was wearing small black sunglasses, a green shirt and a hat, and looked perfectly put together, like a businessman, said Darren Beatty, a 15-year-old student who works at a local gas station.
“The whole time I seen him he never took off his sunglasses,” Mr. Beatty said.
He watched him sit down on a shaded wooden bench next to the Co-Op grocery on Main Street, arranging his bags around him and resting his arms as though he were sitting in an arm chair.
He didn't move for the next three hours.
Around 9 p.m., he walked into the M and M store, where David Dauphinais's husband Darren was working alone.
Mr. Li hung around for what felt like ages, making Darren extremely uncomfortable. He called his husband, saying he was afraid to walk home.
“He was really freaked out,” Mr. Dauphinais said. “He said there was something about this guy that made the hair on the back of his neck stand up.
“Darren's a treaty Indian. When Darren gets nervous about somebody, I listen.”
Mr. Dauphinais rushed back from a meeting, only to find that Mr. Li had left the store when another customer walked in.
That night neither could sleep, fretting about the mysterious stranger. Mr. Dauphinais got out of bed at 3 a.m. and went down to check on his store. He saw Mr. Li sitting across the street, bolt upright on the bench, eyes wide open.
The following morning, Mr. Beatty was riding his bike when he saw a laptop on the curb. The screen was open and a hand-written sign said “$600 for sale, or best offer.”
He circled on his bike, noted the brand-new Acer 4200, and approached Mr. Li.
He offered $100, then immediately lowered it to $50. Mr. Li contemplated for a moment.
“That's probably enough to get you a bus ticket,” Mr. Beatty said. They settled on $60, plus a bag.
“I just thought he was a guy having a hard time,” he said, adding he never felt threatened. “He seemed lost. As I was talking to him about [the laptop] he muttered something about America. He had a thick accent so it was hard to understand.
“He seemed really happy to get some money in his hand.”
Mr. Beatty brought the computer home, and, after returning to get the password from Mr. Li (it was 7777), he unwittingly opened a window on the world of a man who would soon become one of Canada's most notorious accused killers.
He found more than 20 resumes, each tailored to a specific job application. One was for a police service, one for McDonald's, one for Wal-Mart. He also found dozens of photos that he assumed were taken by Mr. Li, including several of a black military plane that he thought were taken by an amateur in mid-air. There were photos of a formal Chinese military parade, and others of Chinese models in clothes, and some of mountains in British Columbia.
There was a letter in Mandarin, translated with Google translator, which seemed to be addressed to someone back in China. It said he was happy to be free, living under beautiful, free skies, but that he felt guilty for leaving China, and that everything in Canada was not as he expected, Mr. Beatty said.
Mr. Li, who recently worked as a newspaper deliveryman, immigrated to Canada in 2001 under the federal skilled worker program, though it's not known whether it was Mr. Li or his wife Anna who qualified. He's believed to be a Canadian citizen.
On the morning after the attack, Mr. Beatty got a call from the RCMP at work, saying an incident had occurred involving the man who sold him his laptop. An officer visited his home and seized the computer, saying he might get restitution but wasn't likely to get the laptop back.
“I asked the cop, “Did he use my money to buy a weapon? But he said, ‘No, not that we know of,' ” Mr. Beatty said.
Mr. Li returned to the M and M store around 1:30 p.m. Mr. Dauphinais said he stood waiting in an alley behind the store for the next 41/2 hours for the bus to arrive.
Just before 6 p.m., he boarded the Greyhound in Erickson, not Brandon as several witnesses reported, and sat down near the front. After a cigarette break in Brandon, he moved to the back and sat next to Mr. McLean.
Court was told Tuesday that when he was arrested, Mr. Li was carrying a plastic bag containing a human nose, ear and part of a mouth, believed to be Mr. McLean's, and that police officers saw him hacking at and eating the corpse. During the ensuing standoff RCMP officers heard him say, “I have to stay on the bus forever.”
Mr. Li's next court appearance is Sept. 8.
I am very surprised by some of the comments in this thread. What Li did was indeed horrible, but don't you think that we should have a little bit more insight into what he has gone through since coming to Canada, given our common cultural background and origin?
The only words that he uttered in public were "Please, kill me!". He must be tormented to an extent that we can't even try to imagine. He is mentally ill but I am sure that he has his sober moments, during which he understands the full extent of the horror that he has created. Can you imagine how painful you would be if you had committed such an abdominal crime like he did? If I were him, I would not want to live either.
They found a few files in the computer that he sold before getting on the bus. There were 20 resumes and a letter talking about how disappointed he was with the life in Canada. His dreams were utterly shattered, his marriage was falling apart.. everything has gone wrong......
I really feel for him. I just wonder what his friends and family in China would feel if they find out what has happened. I dare not even imagine.
The only words that he uttered in public were "Please, kill me!". He must be tormented to an extent that we can't even try to imagine. He is mentally ill but I am sure that he has his sober moments, during which he understands the full extent of the horror that he has created. Can you imagine how painful you would be if you had committed such an abdominal crime like he did? If I were him, I would not want to live either.
They found a few files in the computer that he sold before getting on the bus. There were 20 resumes and a letter talking about how disappointed he was with the life in Canada. His dreams were utterly shattered, his marriage was falling apart.. everything has gone wrong......
I really feel for him. I just wonder what his friends and family in China would feel if they find out what has happened. I dare not even imagine.
