中国首架自主研制、拥有完全自主知识产权的新型涡扇支线客机ARJ21-70028日成功首飞

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中国首架自主研制、拥有完全自主知识产权的新型涡扇支线客机ARJ21-700飞机28日在上海成功首飞。这是中国航空史上一大突破。
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中国航空局官员证实了中新社的报道说,ARJ21-700飞机在晴朗的天气情况下试飞成功。
鉴于安全考虑,此飞机被允许的飞行高度最高达到900米。新华社引用三名飞行员中的一人的话说,"飞机状况一切正常,飞行非常顺利。"
新华社指出,能够承载90名旅客的翔凤飞机是由上海飞机制造厂研制的。其飞行距离可达3700公里,飞行高度达11900米。
该飞机的计划者曾表示,希望在三月份试飞,但是由于供应商产品的安全检测问题,整个项目向后延迟。
新华社还说,单价2700万美元的ARJ21-700飞机将会在未来的18个月当中提供商务供应。据中国政府表示,航空公司已经订购了206架ARJ型飞机。
中国政府称,该国在未来的20年中可能需要900架中型短途飞机。上海飞机制造厂指出,ARJ-21型飞机可能会在未来20年为国内机场提供60%的飞机。
BBC中国事务编辑陈时荣表示,中国研制这种短途飞机为将来研制大飞机打下了很好的基础。但是由于各种技术要求,中国实现自主研制大飞机可能还需要10年的时间。
 
开始行动起来,着手开发自己的产品,当然是件令人欢欣鼓舞的事!
总比一味的帮国外加工、组装好。

但我们还必须有清楚认识: 积习难改、积重难返!
就说这个ARJ21支线客机,其最关键的部件-飞机的心脏-发动机,仍然由中国和美国的GE公司“合作”生产。大家应该清楚知道“合作”是什么意思。
我们已经有太多的这种“合作”:
放着自己研发的高铁机车(即使是目前稍差点)不用,把日本的新干线机车,喷上“CRH”, 就算我们“100%自主知识产权”高铁了;
俄罗斯一不卖发动机,中国和巴基斯坦联合“研制”的“枭龙”战斗机就生产不了了;
... ...
在自己条件不具备的情况下,与人家合作,本来无可非议。但是,如果硬要说成是“100%自主知识产权”,这与教授抄论文、学生抄作业有什么区别?
很多人都认为: 你丫外国的东西,不抄白不抄!
当然,如果能一直能抄下去,能一直拿别人的东西卖钱、还不上税,能一直不影响我们自己的创造力..., 当然是“不抄白不抄”!

创造力是一种习惯,而习惯是靠养成的。
 
完全自主知识产权说得有点过了吧.....不光是发动机,机载航材方面基本被欧美垄断. 光是那几个认证就把你搞死.中国的国产飞机还有很长的路要走.要说自主知识产权现在只能说是机体(不含发动机和机载仪器设备)
 
不是有顺口溜吗, 下级骗上级, 骗到总书记
 
从ARJ21看爬行主义哲学的四个阶段:有合包争


这是对爬行哲学的一个很好的描述。四个阶段:有,合,包,争。

如果世界上的情况都非常有利,的确是可以从这四个阶段中逐渐毕业过渡发展到自己能够控制技术的阶段。但是,这仅是在各种条件都具备的情况下才如此。并不是都可以如此的。这种爬行主义哲学思路下的工业进步路线,不是最好的发展工业的路线。

事实上,以苏联三十年代和中国五十六十年代为代表的工业发展路线——全力引进最先进技术,同时内部高度激励,然后发展出自己的技术队伍——是更有效的发展路线。

最后,把运十说成是“有”的阶段,非常牵强。作者可能不了解中国两条路线的斗争的情况。但是,他的这个“有合包争”的确是对爬行主义哲学路线的一个很好概括。

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The ARJ-21 and China's Long, Slow Climb to the Skies
by: David Wolf November 20, 2008

Covering this year's Zhuhai Air Show, The Economist takes a look at China's first domestically-produced jetliner, the AVIC1 Commercial Aircraft Corporation's ARJ-21, and on the eve of the regional jet's maiden test flight takes a moment to consider its commercial prospects. Their verdict: don't count China out.

Many foreign analysts doubt that Western airlines will ever be prepared to buy Chinese aircraft. But, as in other fields, China is playing a long game.

Much of the debate about the ARJ-21 thus far has centered around two issues: first, whether the ARJ-21 will attract buyers beyond the Chinese airlines who are compelled to purchase it (and GE (GE), who is making a pile selling engines for the jet); and second, whether China will ever develop a globally competitive civil aviation industry.
Both questions miss the point. What is most important about the ARJ-21 is the lessons it teaches us about the process China goes through to catch up with the rest of the world in technical, complex, high-value industries.

>>>Watch Process, not Product

If you look at all of the technical sectors in which China has built commercially viable businesses, you can discern a clear process by which the nation's industrial policy kick-starts these efforts. In the case of cars, computers, mobile phones, and now commercial jetliners, the pattern is dependably consistent. Let's call it the Four C Model.
First, comes what I call the "capability" phase. the government typically announces a national project to build its own version of an technical product. It turns to a government research institute or a similar organization, which in turn pulls together the team from across the nation's universities and enterprises. Eventually they manage to produce a one or more prototypes, but there is no real possibility of commercializing the product.

Upon review of the initial prototypes and the development process, typically a range of issues is identified that prevented the commercialization of the product. As a result, during the next "collaborate" phase, China sets up an enterprise to build the product using foreign designs, components, and know-how. The result is not quite commercially viable, and may only sell to local customers because of tariffs, tax-breaks, or other subsidies that make the local product appealing to local customers.

Next comes the "component" phase, when a local company creates its own design or modifies another, and many of the parts, but key, mission-critical components come from overseas. In this phase the product is adequate and by most measures comparable to foreign products, but with no track record only the most adventurous foreign customers are ready to trust the product.

Finally, all of the technical kinks are worked out, there are several Chinese companies involved in the effort, and with a demonstrable track record behind it, China is ready to go head-to-head with global companies. This is the "competitor" phase, and it usually marked by brisk sales and the beginnings of a true competitive advantage.

>>>Not Quite a Competitor

In the case of the ARJ, China's effort to build its own jetliner has reached the "component" phase, and it has taken 35 years to get this far.

In the early 1970s, China began a project to prove to the world it was capable of making its own jetliner. the result was the now almost-forgotten Shanghai Y-10, which was as close to a clone of the Boeing 707 that the nation could produce in the late 1970s. Two prototypes were produced. They flew in the early 1980s. China made its point. And the jets never saw commercial service: they were essentially flying monuments to China's aspirations. This was the "capability" phase.
Not long after, China got involved in negotiations with McDonnell-Douglas Aircraft for a joint-venture to assemble their MD-80 class jets in Shanghai. The JV went through brutal political turbulence and costly delays, and in the end the venture sold only a fraction of the jets it had hoped. McDonnell-Douglas was sent packing, but China was left with an entire generation of aircraft engineers, a lot of very helpful tooling, and the groundwork to take the next step. Thus ended the "collaborate" phase.

After nearly a decade of thinking, planning, proposals, and counter-proposals, and even another shot at collaborating with other Asian aspirants, China launched the ARJ-21 (Asian Regional Jet - 21st Century) project. This is the "component" phase, and at this point China is serving as re-designer (the jet is basically a shortened MD-80, or DC-9, with a new wing design from Russia), project manager, and system integrator.

>>>Tough Room

China's aviation policy-makers and industrialists knew the ARJ-21 would be playing in the most competitive end of the civil aviation pool. The regional jet field is dominated by Canada's Bombardier (BDRBF.PK), with its CRJ series, and Brazil's EMBRAER (ERJ), with its ERJ series, both of whom have complete lines of aircraft, global technical support, and who built their business on solid reputations for making dependable aircraft.

Three very old names in the aviation industry, British Aerospace, Dornier, and Fairchild, have already been driven out of the aircraft manufacturing business after losing out to Bombardier and EMBRAER, and Boeing's 717 was squeezed out of its market niche with a plane strikingly similar to the ARJ-21. Four other very old names in the aviation industry, Antonov, Tupolev, Sukhoi, and Mitsubishi are all getting ready to pounce on the ARJ-21's markets with brand new regional jets of their own.

So there is not much hope for the ARJ-21 beyond China. And prospects inside of China are not that great, either.

>>>Fat Planes Wanted

The idea behind a regional jet is that you have flights under two hours duration connecting cities under 1,800 kilometers or 1,100 miles apart where you cannot economically fill, say, a Boeing 737, or where the field might be a little short for a small jetliner.

In China, however, the problem is that we have a limited number of airports, a limited amount of airspace, and a whole lot of people who want to fly. There will be some market for regional jets, but in the medium to long term China needs larger jets that make the best possible use of the limited resources in Chinese aviation (i.e., concrete and airspace) to move the maximum number of passengers at the lowest possible cost.

Finally, let's not forget that perhaps the most serious competitor to regional jets in China doesn't even fly. China is in the early phases of a madness for high-speed intercity rail transport. The threat posed by trains as fast as Japan's Shinkansen and France's TGV is most serious to the shorter air routes served by the ARJ. As the price of jet fuel goes up (and, despite current trends, it surely will), that threat grows all the more critical.

>>>Back to our Model

There are other issues, such as a total cost of ownership for the ARJ-21s that are going to be higher than carriers are being let to expect. With all factors in consideration, the ARJ-21 faces some roaring headwinds.

But again, what is important is not the plane itself, but where China's jetliner manufacturing industry will be after the ARJ-21. And here is where it starts to get really interesting.

Just as the ARJ-21 goes into full production, Airbus will be completing its A320 assembly plant in Tianjin. Between the two, China will for the first time have two factories cranking out airliners. The benefits to the industry will be enormous. China will have created overnight a workforce of engineers, machinists, and all of the other specialties involved in aircraft assembly.

In short, by 2014, the groundwork will be in place for China to make the next jump, and the ARJ-21 team will have had five years learning what it takes to support an airliner in the field, sometimes even in the most challenging locations.

What is more, right about that time, Boeing (BA) and Airbus will be under pressure from their customers around the world to develop successors to their single-aisle jetliners in the 110-170 passenger range. Both have made it so far by updating and extending their 737 and A320 lines. Five years from now, that may not be enough.
At that point, the door will open for China to enter the fray with its own design, and they will have the benefit of being able to work with the world of suppliers and subcontractors - both in China and overseas - that Boeing and Airbus have helped create. And with Boeing and Airbus forced to contend with powerful unions determined to secure for their members a comfortable American or European middle-class lifestyle, China may well offer a nice cost advantage as well.
All things being equal, then, China may well be able to compete in the small airliner market by 2020.

>>>A Lesson, not a Product

Again, though, this makes the ARJ-21 a stepping-stone, not the destination itself. As such, the success or failure of the ARJ-21 project cannot be measured solely on the basis of aircraft sold. Rather, it must be judged on its by-products, on the extent to which it prepares the nation's aerospace industry to take the next, all-important step and become a global competitor.
 
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