达尔文不知道，现代人也不知道

[CHRIS88]

I read the book written by Zhouzi Fang and I think that this book is very good and worth reading. Although we do not know how human are originated, we should believe science but not religion.

可惜，方博士的大作回避了钱教授文中所提的所有的实质性问题。

 

[3722]

Indeed, very few. of all now 11,860 signatures, only 9 churchs signed up from Ontario

Beth Jacob Synagogue
Hamilton, ON
Rabbi Dan Selsberg

The Unitarian Fellowship of Peterborough
Peterborough, ON
The Rev. Julie Stoneberg

Unitarian Fellowship of Sarnia and Port Huron
Sarnia, ON, Canada
Allan McKeown

First Unitarian Congregation of Toronto
Toronto, ON, Canada
The Rev. Shawn Newton

Parkdale United Church
Toronto, ON, Canada
The Rev. Shawn Lucas

West Hill United Church
Toronto, ON, Canada
The Rev. Gretta Vosper

First Unitarian Congregation of Waterloo
Waterloo, ON, Canada
The Rev. Jessica Rodela

Beth Tikvah Synagogue
Willowdale, ON, Canada
Rabbi Wayne Allen

SO, LET'S NOT FIGHT ON EACH OTHER PLEASE, THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT TRUTH. WE COULD HAVE AND WE VERY MUCH WANT BOTH OF THAT!!

the clergy letter from American Christian clergy
An Open Letter Concerning Religion and Science:

Within the community of Christian believers there are areas of dispute and disagreement, including the proper way to interpret Holy Scripture. While virtually all Christians take the Bible seriously and hold it to be authoritative in matters of faith and practice, the overwhelming majority do not read the Bible literally, as they would a science textbook. Many of the beloved stories found in the Bible -- the Creation, Adam and Eve, Noah and the ark -- convey timeless truths about God, human beings, and the proper relationship between Creator and creation expressed in the only form capable of transmitting these truths from generation to generation. Religious truth is of a different order from scientific truth. Its purpose is not to convey scientific information but to transform hearts.
We the undersigned, Christian clergy from many different traditions, believe that the timeless truths of the Bible and the discoveries of modern science may comfortably coexist. We believe that the theory of evolution is a foundational scientific truth, one that has stood up to rigorous scrutiny and upon which much of human knowledge and achievement rests. To reject this truth or to treat it as "one theory among others" is to deliberately embrace scientific ignorance and transmit such ignorance to our children. We believe that among God's good gifts are human minds capable of critical thought and that the failure to fully employ this gift is a rejection of the will of our Creator. To argue that God's loving plan of salvation for humanity precludes the full employment of the God-given faculty of reason is to attempt to limit God, an act of hubris. We urge school board members to preserve the integrity of the science curriculum by affirming the teaching of the theory of evolution as a core component of human knowledge. We ask that science remain science and that religion remain religion, two very different, but complementary, forms of truth.

 

[Mikejia]

我认为： 人不过是外宇宙里面的一个细胞（地球）上滋生的粘附物而已。信不信教，都改变不了这个事实。

 

[wyandywja]

可惜，方博士的大作回避了钱教授文中所提的所有的。

what is the so called 实质性问题? you tell me!!!

 

[3722]

SO?

to answer the "so", borrowed another believer's writing, wish it helps.


Darwin's Challenge Was Not to God, it Was to His Word

The Vatican embraces Charles Darwin's theory of evolution as fully compatible with Christianity. The Church of England honors its former member, pastor Darwin.

And we are thus reminded that evolution is not really a challenge against God or Christianity even, it's a challenge to Biblical Revelation.

Now of course for many people, the absolute truth of the Bible is the heart of religion. Undermine one, and you've undermined the other.

But not for everyone -- including the Vatican. The most interesting debate, then, would not be between an atheistic scientistic and clergyman. It would be between passionate Christians, one who puts a literal reading of the Bible at the heart of his faith, and one who doesn't. It would be between Pope Benedict XI and, say, CHRIS88?