我是去年6月来的，接着以前的房客租别人的房子，（以前的房客回国了），下月就要回国了。从今年冬天开始，enbridge账单的数目就越来越大，开始觉得是暖气问题，后来发现有的钱是该房东交的，结果算到我们帐上，和enbridge交涉多次都没彻底解决。今天又来了一封信，说什么去年我们向summit energy订了一个计划，如果现在走，要我们赔偿700+刀+税。而我们从来没有订过什么计划，更可恶的是信上说叫我们要response by May 12, 而信今天我们才收到，邮戳时间是May 20。已经和enbridge和direct energy等交涉多次了，但是电话里很难说清楚，对方老是推诿，态度也很差。enbridge也没有一个办公的地方我们可以当面说的。我想问下，如何处理这种情况，是否我能把我该交的交了，剩下的就不管了，这边的银行和visa我大概走后1，2个月都会取消。但是好像和以前房客交接时留下了自己的个人信息（可能包括国内的visa卡号），会不会回国后会被charge在我国内的visa卡或者对我的信用有什么影响？不是不想交，是实在扯不清楚了，真该交的我们也不会少enbridge的。
求助：关于enbridge账单
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哇， 这个好象很麻烦。多半你要破财了。
summit energy 基本上属于骗人的那种公司， 他们名义上说
是固定energy rate (unit price),实际上他们价格比正常价格要高.
他们的推销人员往往误导人们，让人们以为他们是enbridge,but they are not.
They ask for enbridge bill immediately after you talk to them and then ask you to sign something that you maybe not know what it is (which is acctually a contract, usually 5-year.) If you signed, then you are trapped. You may need to pay hudreds of bucks to end it.
Ask summit energy to show you proof(your signiture) first).
If 钱是该房东交的, then it will work if you can make 房东call enbridge.
If you will not come back to canada, then leave it alone. pay what you should pay then go.
Cancel 国内的visa卡 immediately, if anybody else know your card number
summit energy 基本上属于骗人的那种公司， 他们名义上说
是固定energy rate (unit price),实际上他们价格比正常价格要高.
他们的推销人员往往误导人们，让人们以为他们是enbridge,but they are not.
They ask for enbridge bill immediately after you talk to them and then ask you to sign something that you maybe not know what it is (which is acctually a contract, usually 5-year.) If you signed, then you are trapped. You may need to pay hudreds of bucks to end it.
Ask summit energy to show you proof(your signiture) first).
If 钱是该房东交的, then it will work if you can make 房东call enbridge.
If you will not come back to canada, then leave it alone. pay what you should pay then go.
Cancel 国内的visa卡 immediately, if anybody else know your card number
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账单上是谁的名字？
summit energy 敲门, 我没上 summit energy 的当.
在加拿大要时刻提防被骗. 加拿大骗子横行, 比如要当市长，先要当骗子; 市议员骗满腔热血的老华侨(搪塞和撒谎), 保险公司试图骗雨季中, 新公司毁了ushernut 的 contrac, 媒体骗别人说移民的大学学历仅仅相当于加拿大的高中水平,等等。 LZ回国后要广泛宣传.以免同胞上当.
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First, Check: 账单上是谁的名字？
If it is not your name, then refuse paying the bill.
If it is your name and you never sign any contract, then fax to the company and ask for the proof of the signed contract. If they don't provide the evidence, then they are cheating.
Sue them.
If it is not your name, then refuse paying the bill.
If it is your name and you never sign any contract, then fax to the company and ask for the proof of the signed contract. If they don't provide the evidence, then they are cheating.
Sue them.
Ottawa 白人骗子狂骗Toronto中国移民
ZT
http://web.wenxuecity.com/BBSView.php?SubID=backhome&MsgID=268662
千万不要移民加拿大
来源: zhang3feng
I resided in Toronto, and I once interviewed for a position in Ottawa.
One of the skills they required in the job ads was SAS. Since I had several
years of experience with SAS, I was hoping to get this position.
This company called me and asked me to go there for a face-to-face
interview. There was no phone screening. This should have raised some flag for me.
But I was in a very desperate situation at the time, and would be happy to grasp any straw coming my way.
They did not provide any help to my trip to Ottawa.
I had to get up early and drive for 5 hours to get there, which
was probably what they wanted me to do anyway, since the
interview was scheduled at 1pm, right after the lunch time.
These Canadians really knew how to save a buck or two.
I got to Ottawa at about 12am. I had my lunch in a Chinese restaurant, and went to the
rest room to brush my teeth before leaving the restaurant. Putting on my interview suit, I went
to that company. It was a very small company. The front desk lady was very cold to me. Good start.
There were three white guys in the interview room when I walked in. One guy with a huge
beer belly handed me a glass of water. I thanked him.
Just a few minutes into the interview, this beer belly guy casually mentioned that they didn't have SAS.
"SAS is too expensive," he remarked, "we cannot afford that. Is that software a must for you?"
This guy asked me if I must have SAS. For the sake of getting
a shot at the job, I said no. He smiled and said that was the right
answer. What a cheap ass!!!!! Why do you put SAS in the job ads when you
do not even have it? It is just about 10k dollars a year to get
SAS license and you cannot afford that?
Now the second white guy started grilling me, and his technique was to repeatedly calling my honesty into question.
"Tell me about the softwares you use."
I said I have plenty of experience with SAS and oracle. He looked at me in a tough
way and said you had SPSS in your resume. As if it is
really something to be able to use SPSS, which is just a spreadsheet. What a dickhead.
This guy kept poking me with this way of questioning, with a stony hostility on his face.
The third guy, who was very young, was showing a weird jeer on his face.
I would love to give both of them a slap on the face. If you want me to recite everything in the resume, just
f---ing read it.
In about half an hour, the interview was over. And the third guy, who was clearly
a subordinate of the second guy, and who had clearly caught all the overtones of those questions, said, "we will be in touch." His expression
was--forget about it. After I left the company I stopped at a gas station to get a pack of cigarettes.
I felt extremely angry, but did not know what to do.
Now I had to drive another five hours to go home.
This is a big lesson I learned. Avoid white trash. In the interviews I had since had in the states, I had totally different experience. These American companies pay everything for the interview. They pay for flight, hotel, and limos. And the interviewers treat you professionally, with respect.
Now if you come to think about it, Canada is really a country of losers.
Look at Finland, look at northern Europe. They have long and gloomy winters,
just like Canada. And how technologically advanced they are!
Canadians, on the other hand, occupying a huge land, are very good at selling trees, selling fish, killing seals and selling furs. So many immigrants with advanced degree come to
Canada, only to take on some hourly muscle job, because Canada does not have a big technology sector in the job market to utilize their brain. I think Canada should stop taking in highly educated immigrants, and go get some cheap labors from Mexico, since that's what this strongest, freest, and richest country on Earth really need.
ZT
http://web.wenxuecity.com/BBSView.php?SubID=backhome&MsgID=268662
千万不要移民加拿大
来源: zhang3feng
I resided in Toronto, and I once interviewed for a position in Ottawa.
One of the skills they required in the job ads was SAS. Since I had several
years of experience with SAS, I was hoping to get this position.
This company called me and asked me to go there for a face-to-face
interview. There was no phone screening. This should have raised some flag for me.
But I was in a very desperate situation at the time, and would be happy to grasp any straw coming my way.
They did not provide any help to my trip to Ottawa.
I had to get up early and drive for 5 hours to get there, which
was probably what they wanted me to do anyway, since the
interview was scheduled at 1pm, right after the lunch time.
These Canadians really knew how to save a buck or two.
I got to Ottawa at about 12am. I had my lunch in a Chinese restaurant, and went to the
rest room to brush my teeth before leaving the restaurant. Putting on my interview suit, I went
to that company. It was a very small company. The front desk lady was very cold to me. Good start.
There were three white guys in the interview room when I walked in. One guy with a huge
beer belly handed me a glass of water. I thanked him.
Just a few minutes into the interview, this beer belly guy casually mentioned that they didn't have SAS.
"SAS is too expensive," he remarked, "we cannot afford that. Is that software a must for you?"
This guy asked me if I must have SAS. For the sake of getting
a shot at the job, I said no. He smiled and said that was the right
answer. What a cheap ass!!!!! Why do you put SAS in the job ads when you
do not even have it? It is just about 10k dollars a year to get
SAS license and you cannot afford that?
Now the second white guy started grilling me, and his technique was to repeatedly calling my honesty into question.
"Tell me about the softwares you use."
I said I have plenty of experience with SAS and oracle. He looked at me in a tough
way and said you had SPSS in your resume. As if it is
really something to be able to use SPSS, which is just a spreadsheet. What a dickhead.
This guy kept poking me with this way of questioning, with a stony hostility on his face.
The third guy, who was very young, was showing a weird jeer on his face.
I would love to give both of them a slap on the face. If you want me to recite everything in the resume, just
f---ing read it.
In about half an hour, the interview was over. And the third guy, who was clearly
a subordinate of the second guy, and who had clearly caught all the overtones of those questions, said, "we will be in touch." His expression
was--forget about it. After I left the company I stopped at a gas station to get a pack of cigarettes.
I felt extremely angry, but did not know what to do.
Now I had to drive another five hours to go home.
This is a big lesson I learned. Avoid white trash. In the interviews I had since had in the states, I had totally different experience. These American companies pay everything for the interview. They pay for flight, hotel, and limos. And the interviewers treat you professionally, with respect.
Now if you come to think about it, Canada is really a country of losers.
Look at Finland, look at northern Europe. They have long and gloomy winters,
just like Canada. And how technologically advanced they are!
Canadians, on the other hand, occupying a huge land, are very good at selling trees, selling fish, killing seals and selling furs. So many immigrants with advanced degree come to
Canada, only to take on some hourly muscle job, because Canada does not have a big technology sector in the job market to utilize their brain. I think Canada should stop taking in highly educated immigrants, and go get some cheap labors from Mexico, since that's what this strongest, freest, and richest country on Earth really need.
ZT 买 Ontario lottery 的小心, 又一骗子, 狂骗 Ontario lottery 649
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/cri...ner-jailed-one-year-in-5-7m-lottery-scam?bn=1
Store owner jailed one year in $5.7M lottery scam
Published On Tue Jun 15 2010
Peter Small
Courts Bureau
A former convenience store owner who cheated a customer out of a $5.7 million lottery ticket has been sentenced to a year in jail.
Hafiz Malik, 63, sat quietly as Ontario provincial court Justice Rebecca Shamai pronounced sentence Tuesday at Old City Hall courthouse in downtown Toronto.
Dressed in a black T-shirt and grey slacks, the white-haired Malik listened intently to the judge's reasons.
In December, Malik had pleaded to fraud.
He admitted to tricking a customer, Lorraine Teicht, out of a winning 6/49 ticket in June 2004.
Teicht had for years had been playing the lottery with three workmates at the Toronto Catholic District School Board, playing the same numbers.
Teicht checked the ticket, on behalf of the group, at Malik's tiny kiosk on Dupont St.
But he told her it was worth only $10, and hung on to it himself, the judge said.
After the fraud was uncovered by Teicht's group and investigated by Ontario Provincial Police, the Ontario Lottery and Gaming Corp. compensated them for the ticket, plus $800,000 in interest.
Teicht wrote a poignant victim impact statement and wanted to attend Malik's sentencing hearing in April, but the 56-year-old woman died of cancer just days earlier.
At first her three co-workers suspected her of cheating them out of their share, leading to a deterioration of her relationship with them and leaving her unable to fully trust people, she wrote in a victim impact statement.
Malik hung onto the ticket before claiming it as his own in January 2005.
He then went on a spending spree: moving from his modest Toronto apartment into a $1 million mansion in Mississauga and buying a Land Rover and a Mercedes.
In February 2006, one of the bona fide winners in Teicht's group checked the lottery numbers and discovered their usual picks had come up. The group began to investigate, at first suspecting Teicht.
Crown prosecutor Philip Perlmutter had called for a 2 ½ penitentiary sentence for Malik, stating that he was motivated by greed.
Defence lawyer John Filiberto called for a conditional sentence of two years less a day, to be served in the community saying that his client is sorry for what he did.
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/cri...ner-jailed-one-year-in-5-7m-lottery-scam?bn=1
Store owner jailed one year in $5.7M lottery scam
Published On Tue Jun 15 2010
Peter Small
Courts Bureau
A former convenience store owner who cheated a customer out of a $5.7 million lottery ticket has been sentenced to a year in jail.
Hafiz Malik, 63, sat quietly as Ontario provincial court Justice Rebecca Shamai pronounced sentence Tuesday at Old City Hall courthouse in downtown Toronto.
Dressed in a black T-shirt and grey slacks, the white-haired Malik listened intently to the judge's reasons.
In December, Malik had pleaded to fraud.
He admitted to tricking a customer, Lorraine Teicht, out of a winning 6/49 ticket in June 2004.
Teicht had for years had been playing the lottery with three workmates at the Toronto Catholic District School Board, playing the same numbers.
Teicht checked the ticket, on behalf of the group, at Malik's tiny kiosk on Dupont St.
But he told her it was worth only $10, and hung on to it himself, the judge said.
After the fraud was uncovered by Teicht's group and investigated by Ontario Provincial Police, the Ontario Lottery and Gaming Corp. compensated them for the ticket, plus $800,000 in interest.
Teicht wrote a poignant victim impact statement and wanted to attend Malik's sentencing hearing in April, but the 56-year-old woman died of cancer just days earlier.
At first her three co-workers suspected her of cheating them out of their share, leading to a deterioration of her relationship with them and leaving her unable to fully trust people, she wrote in a victim impact statement.
Malik hung onto the ticket before claiming it as his own in January 2005.
He then went on a spending spree: moving from his modest Toronto apartment into a $1 million mansion in Mississauga and buying a Land Rover and a Mercedes.
In February 2006, one of the bona fide winners in Teicht's group checked the lottery numbers and discovered their usual picks had come up. The group began to investigate, at first suspecting Teicht.
Crown prosecutor Philip Perlmutter had called for a 2 ½ penitentiary sentence for Malik, stating that he was motivated by greed.
Defence lawyer John Filiberto called for a conditional sentence of two years less a day, to be served in the community saying that his client is sorry for what he did.
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欠债要还，现在或者是将来。
80年代初一些精英出国了。有些人在回国之前max-out信用卡之类的回去了，回去混得有模有样。但是信用卡公司也不是吃素的，他们把债务卖给香港的某些人。接着的故事大家就去想吧。
欠债还是了的好。
80年代初一些精英出国了。有些人在回国之前max-out信用卡之类的回去了，回去混得有模有样。但是信用卡公司也不是吃素的，他们把债务卖给香港的某些人。接着的故事大家就去想吧。
欠债还是了的好。
