出来留学不容易啊，一定好好好学习，否则回去应聘结果就这样

[Everflying.cheng]

几个已经找到一些食物的大猴子轻蔑地、居高临下地戏弄着一个怯生生地也想找点食物填饱肚子的小猴子，以满足它们自以为是的优越感和虚荣心。

真是很多人的真实心理。应该说见怪不怪了。

 

[敏敏特穆尔]

属实。

PhD有的专业还有research degree，不用选课，同导师商量好，写篇论文就齐活儿，一年半到两年拿下。当然，录取要求不低。

读研究生的难易程度，应该是加拿大-->美国-->英国，加拿大最难。

为什么会这样。。。:blink:

 

[ert0000]

老板水平太差, 讥笑挖苦, 说实话,这堆老板除了那个最后两位之一的女老板外, 其他全是垃圾.

那个留学生英语说得还行.

咱们换种玩法,请坛上的朋友模拟一下,如果你是他,和他有一样的背景和学历, 站在那个台上,你怎么应答?

 

[Gulliver]

It can be played in another way -- Sorry I have to type this in English -- that is to capitalize this showing opportunity. The only mistake that student made was believe those "bosses" were hiring people so he tried to sell him to those "bosses". The correct stance he should take is to sell him to the audience, not to this small group of people on the stage -- you win the audience then you will win everything.

For example, when that foolish guy commented on his English ability, he could talk to him in English, talk to him in any subject that he was familiar in English, and force him to show his English skills.

Turn passive into active, question those "bosses" and force them to defend themselves and make fun of them, so the TV audience will get a lot of fun and the TV host will love it -- the key is, the guy should not limit himself to a role that a few "powerful" people have assigned to him. Otherwise, he is destined to fail.

 

[无国无家]

It can be played in another way -- Sorry I have to type this in English -- that is to capitalize this showing opportunity. The only mistake that student made was believe those "bosses" were hiring people so he tried to sell him to those "bosses". The correct stance he should take is to sell him to the audience, not to this small group of people on the stage -- you win the audience then you will win everything.

For example, when that foolish guy commented on his English ability, he could talk to him in English, talk to him in any subject that he was familiar in English, and force him to show his English skills.

Turn passive into active, question those "bosses" and force them to defend themselves and make fun of them, so the TV audience will get a lot of fun and the TV host will love it -- the key is, the guy should not limit himself to a role that a few "powerful" people have assigned to him. Otherwise, he is destined to fail.

 

[wiiwii]

为什么会这样。。。:blink:

其实村长说的也不全对,加拿大大学少,学校水平都不差,所以不容易,美国几千个大学,很多是垃圾学校,那要读就太容易了,不过好的学校要进去,要读出来不容易.英国是真的很奇怪,中国人英文都不太会的都可以去读研究生,一年,两年就毕业了,有不少还是听起来很不错的学校.我不知道他们发给那些学生的文凭和正规学生的是不是一样.以前应该不是那样的吧?

 

[wiiwii]

It can be played in another way -- Sorry I have to type this in English -- that is to capitalize this showing opportunity. The only mistake that student made was believe those "bosses" were hiring people so he tried to sell him to those "bosses". The correct stance he should take is to sell him to the audience, not to this small group of people on the stage -- you win the audience then you will win everything.

For example, when that foolish guy commented on his English ability, he could talk to him in English, talk to him in any subject that he was familiar in English, and force him to show his English skills.

Turn passive into active, question those "bosses" and force them to defend themselves and make fun of them, so the TV audience will get a lot of fun and the TV host will love it -- the key is, the guy should not limit himself to a role that a few "powerful" people have assigned to him. Otherwise, he is destined to fail.

那也没用,那傻老板会说我没留过学,英语不会很正常,你留过学英文好正常,否则你就有问题.在中国大陆的环境下,那留学生应该上台后先选几个老板拍一拍,然后大家哈哈哈,没人会为难他了.
不过那留学生英文也真奇怪,一点英国口音都听不出.

 

[ccc]

其实村长说的也不全对,加拿大大学少,学校水平都不差,所以不容易,美国几千个大学,很多是垃圾学校,那要读就太容易了,不过好的学校要进去,要读出来不容易.英国是真的很奇怪,中国人英文都不太会的都可以去读研究生,一年,两年就毕业了,有不少还是听起来很不错的学校.我不知道他们发给那些学生的文凭和正规学生的是不是一样.以前应该不是那样的吧?

你说的，是原因之一，也可以说是表面现象。

道理是明摆着的:大学商业化越严重, 研究生读起来就越容易。只是录取门槛不低。

现在，在加拿大读研究生也比过去容易点了，例如MBA。

 

[shemozhuben]

出国了，又回国，目标应该是做老板，而不是打工。打工不如留在国外。

 

[ccc]

国内学出来的，除了外文（主要是听说）不如留学生，其他哪里比你差？现在，留学生、海外研究生、海归的身价是越来越低了，不能期待过高。

 

[明天MT]

两年英国的学习经验而不是工作经验,的确没什么吸引力.

 

[wiiwii]

国内学出来的，除了外文（主要是听说）不如留学生，其他哪里比你差？现在，留学生、海外研究生、海归的身价是越来越低了，不能期待过高。

国内也看学校吧?有些中专变的大学,学和不学没啥差别吧?
那留学生的2+2,比起英国3年或者4年的本科,应该差很多了,西方国家稍微好点的本科,学起来没那么容易混的

 

[yoshida]

口恩

国内学出来的，除了外文（主要是听说）不如留学生，其他哪里比你差？现在，留学生、海外研究生、海归的身价是越来越低了，不能期待过高。

最主要的区别应该在于，做事情是不是规矩，是不是细致，是不是可靠，是不是有耐心。

:blowzy:

 

[ccc]

国内也看学校吧?有些中专变的大学,学和不学没啥差别吧?
那留学生的2+2,比起英国3年或者4年的本科,应该差很多了,西方国家稍微好点的本科,学起来没那么容易混的

在加拿大能啃下大学本科，实在不容易。问题是那2+2，不等于本科。以为拿个卡列顿证书身价就上去了啊。

 

[ccc]

最主要的区别应该在于，做事情是不是规矩，是不是细致，是不是可靠，是不是有耐心。

:blowzy:

而且这些都基于真正的本事之上。