[问题] 怎样应付罚单?

[oread]

[求助] 怎样应付罚单? 多谢!

本来在车来车往版, 可还是有些问题不懂. 感谢杨斑竹和各位提过建议的大侠! 还望JANE斑竹手下留情. :thanks:

昨天不幸收到两张罚单, 共计220刀. 不服, 准备打官司.
以前在魁省曾为此打过一次官司, 还赢了. 皆因警察不用出庭, 另有一位检查官. 在安省警察是不是原告? 还是证人? 是否必须出庭? 若不出庭是不是就自动输了?

理由有二:
1. H.T.A. SECT. 136(1)(A) DISOBEY STOP SIGN, STOPPED AT WRONG PLACE.
2. H.T.A. SECT. 154(1)(A) FAIL TO DRIVE IN MARKED LANE
简单讲, 就是在停牌前有一辆警车, 发动机开着, 但停着不动. 我们等了一会儿, 大概一两分钟. 它还不动, 我们就从它左边超过, 在路口停下. 看见不太远处有辆车驶过来, 但还有一段. 加上大雪, 车都开得挺慢, 我们就开过路口. 一过路口警车就亮起警灯, 我们都不知道是怎麽会事. 那条路是双行线, 可是前后都没有别的车.
说起来有点麻烦, 看图吧.

查了一下安省交通法, 对违反的两条有如下解释:
136. (1) Every driver or street car operator approaching a stop sign at an intersection,

(a) shall stop his or her vehicle or street car at a marked stop line or, if none, then immediately before entering the nearest crosswalk or, if none, then immediately before entering the intersection;


154. (1) Where a highway has been divided into clearly marked lanes for traffic,

(a) a vehicle shall be driven as nearly as may be practicable entirely within a single lane and shall not be moved from the lane until the driver has first ascertained that the movement can be made with safety;

当时我觉得那小警察莫名其妙, 态度当然不好, 跟他力争, 还恶狠狠地说"I'LL SEE YOU IN COURT"! 他就开了两张罚单, 这不是公报私仇吗! 气死我也!

大家觉得我们有戏吗? 另外有谁知道POINTTS的收费情况? 拜托各位高人出出主意! :thanks:

 

[oread]

对了, 还有一个问题:
罚单背后的OPTION 3: TRIAL OPTION下有两条:
1. I INTEND TO APPEAR IN COURT TO ENTER A PLEA AT THE TIME AND DATE SET FOR TRIAL.
2. I INTEND TO CHALLENGE THE EVIDENCE OF THE PROVINCIAL OFFENCES OFFICER, YES OR NO
NOTE: IF YOU INDICATE "NO" ABOVE, THE OFFICER MAY NOT ATTEND AND THE PROSECUTOR MAY RELY ON CERTIFIED STATEMENTS AS EVIDENCE AGAINST YOU.

我是不想PLEA, 但又不太想跟警察当庭对质. 填哪一条比较好?

 

[333]

如果警车真的停了有两分钟以上(只要大于一分钟)，你一定要他出庭，因为你是认为他不想走才违章的。因为如果其它路口没有车，他没必要停30秒以上。

 

[Kent以东首帅哥]

这种金额比较大,又要记点影响保险费的,是非打不可.

 

[辟邪]

去罢.
既然已经说了I'LL SEE YOU IN COURT, 那就see him in court. 也许见不着就完了.

 

[oread]

警察不去我就赢定了吗? 是不是有一个PROSECUTOR代表STATE, 而给我开罚单的警察只是证人?
333说的不错, 我也觉得要点是他停在路口的时间. 具体时间我们没什麽概念. 只是感觉过了挺长时间, 才会有他停着不走的想法. 不然我绕警车干嘛?! 再说要是辆普通车, 早就嘀之了!
唉, 各位有什麽具体建议吗?

 

[oread]

拜托大家出出点子! :thanks:

 

[Rabbit]

找几个人，砍了他 :kill:

 

[......]

最初由 Rabbit 发布
找几个人，砍了他 :kill:

还不如让兔子MM使个美人计搞定,SAGE请兔子吃顿算了.

 

[oread]

死兔子: 我都快烦死啦, 还拿我开心!

 

[Rabbit]

最初由 sage 发布
死兔子: 我都快烦死啦, 还拿我开心!

抱歉，我没主意，想说点儿什么让你宽心。没什么大不了的，即使输了官司，不就损失点儿钱吗，高兴最重要，钱还能挣回来，你说对不

 

[oread]

兔子: 说的不错, 可想想220刀能干多少有趣的事, 最起码两顿牛排! 唔唔唔...
最可气的是那小警察没事找事, 典型的POLICE BRUTALITY!

 

[Rabbit]

就当丢了，捐给穷人了，上税了。害，想开点儿呗，塞翁失马，奄知不中SUPER7乎 :lol:

 

[enjoy]

sage, 给咱们露露脸，拿出你的看家本事，好好跟这帮警察们论论理，管它理正不正的，220刀能搓好几顿呢！回来让咱们长长见识，我在北美还没直接从警察手里得过罚蛋，只得过parking ticket。

Good luck :zany:

 

[kiki]

你当然要APPEAL!
法官会给你两个OPTION: NOT GUILTY OR GUILTY WITH EXPLAINATION.
通常情况是法官开庭, 先处理警察缺席的案子, IN THIS CASE, YOU WIN;
再是处理 GUILTY WITH EXPLAINATION 的, 一般地说你总能得到30%-80%的减免;
最后处理 NOT FEEL GUILTY 的.
胜诉概律大约一半一半.
In your case, your chance of winning the case may be higher than 50%.
On the day showing up, you may want to bring the picture you posted above and a witness IF you can find one.
State the facts and evidences with good manner.
talk with judger respectively.
Never, Never argue with the damn police, otherwise you probably lose this case.

Be confident and by all means have a try.

Bless you.