转快讯:美国国会以289-137通过暂停接受叙利亚难民计划,由于是三分之二的赞成票, 奥巴马很难否决。

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美国貌似又把大家给玩儿了。
 
土豆就是嫩啊,要打肿脸充胖子了
 
US House votes to restrict Iraqi and Syrian refugees entry

The US House of Representatives has passed a bill that tightens restrictions on the resettlement of Syrian and Iraqi refugees, amid security concerns.

Dozens of Democrats joined Republicans as the House passed the measure 289-137, in a rebuke to the White House.

President Barack Obama has said he will veto the legislation.

The bill follows the attacks in Paris that left 129 people dead, claiming to the be the work of Islamic State.

Seven of the perpetrators died in the attacks, and one of them is thought to have been a Syrian who entered Europe via Greece with migrants.

It still needs to pass the Senate before hitting Mr Obama's desk.

The bill would require the head of the FBI, the Department of Homeland Security, and the Director of National Intelligence to sign off on each refugee as being "not a threat to the security of the United States," following an FBI background check.

Calling the Paris attacks "a game changer", Rep Brad Ashford, a Democrat from Nebraska, said: "I cannot sit back and ignore the concerns of my constituents and the American public."

House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy said he supported the bill because "it is against the values of our nation and the values of a free society to give terrorists the opening they are looking for".

Others urged compassion for those fleeing the war-torn regions.

"Defeating terrorism should not mean slamming the door in the faces of those fleeing the terrorists," said Rep Jerrold Nadler, a Democrat from New York. "We might as well take down the Statue of Liberty".

The current vetting process
  • takes two years
  • in-person interviews and supporting documents
  • their experience of conflict cross-checked against intelligence
  • about 50% of applicants approved
Republicans do not have the votes to override Mr Obama's veto, but say that their affirmative vote in symbolic.

Rand Paul, a senator from Kentucky who is currently running for president, has highlighted a 2011 case in his home state of two Iraqi refugees who schemed to send rifles, missiles and money to al-Qaeda against US troops in Iraqi. They are now imprisoned.

The White House has said that 2,174 Syrians have been admitted to the US since the attacks in September 2001, and noted that none of them has been arrested or deported for terror offences.

Millions of Syrians have fled to neighbouring countries and to Europe since the Syrian conflict began about four years ago.

The Obama administration announced in September that it wanted to resettle about 10,000 Syrian refugees in the US by the same time next year.
 
House passes bill to block Syrian refugees, require more vetting
Erin Kelly, USA TODAY 3:32 p.m. EST November 19, 2015

Speaker Paul Ryan says he's mystified that President Obama is talking veto of a bill that will delay acceptance of Syrian refugees. Nancy Pelosi says the Democrats bill was a better fit designed to improve background checks. (Nov. 19) AP

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(Photo: Jacquelyn Martin, AP)

WASHINGTON — The House passed a bill Thursday to halt the admission of Syrian refugees into the U.S. until they undergo a more stringent vetting process — the most stringent vetting ever required for people fleeing a war-torn nation.

The legislation, passed by a vote of 289-137, was rushed through in response to last week's terrorist attacks in Paris. One of the terrorists is believed to have entered Europe through Greece with a group of Syrian refugees, sparking calls by congressional leaders to "pause" the flow of refugees into the U.S. from Syria and Iraq.

Forty-seven Democrats joined 242 Republicans in voting for the bill. Two Republicans — Reps. Walter Jones of North Carolina and Steve King of Iowa — joined 135 Democrats in voting against the bill.

The bill requires the nation’s three top security officials — the Homeland Security secretary, FBI director and national intelligence director — to certify to Congress that each Syrian or Iraqi refugee is not a security threat before the refugee can be admitted into the U.S.

The White House has issued a veto threat, saying that the bill would create significant delays and obstacles for refugees without providing meaningful additional security for Americans. The legislation still must be voted on by the Senate, where Democratic leaders say they will move to block the bill.


USA TODAY

White House threatens veto of House GOP bill on Syrian refugees

The bill's supporters said the legislation would help ensure that Islamic State terrorists will not slip into the U.S. along with refugees.

"We are a nation at war," said Homeland Security Chairman Michael McCaul, R-Texas, who introduced the bill with Rep. Richard Hudson, R-N.C. "The streets of Paris could just as easily have been the streets of New York, Chicago, Houston or Los Angeles ... We must take decisive action to show the American people that we are doing all we can to protect them."

Opponents of the bill said there already is a vigorous 18-month to 24-month vetting process for refugees. They argued that the bill's new requirements would effectively shut down the U.S. refugee resettlement program for Syrians.

"We face a choice that will echo through history," said Rep. Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y., who reminded lawmakers that the U.S. turned away Jewish refugees fleeing Nazi Germany in 1939. "We must not let ourselves be guided by irrational fear."

President Obama plans to bring in up to 10,000 Syrian refugees over the next year. Roughly 11 million Syrians, almost half the nation's population, have fled their homes since the civil war broke out in 2011, and about 4 million have left their country.

The White House said that 2,174 Syrian refugees have been admitted to the United States since Sept. 11, 2001, and "not a single one has been arrested or deported on terrorism-related grounds."
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...-syrian-refugees-widows-and-orphans/75983352/
The current screening process for refugees is done by the the National Counterterrorism Center, the FBI and the departments of Homeland Security, State and Defense. The background checks include fingerprinting, medical screenings and lengthy interviews of refugees before they enter the U.S.

"No refugee is approved for travel to the United States under the current system until the full array of required security vetting measures have been completed," said a White House statement issued Wednesday.

But Republicans pointed to recent congressional testimony from FBI Director James Comey acknowledging the challenges of trying to vet Syrian refugees. Comey testified last month that it is difficult for U.S. officials to collect information on Syrians in the midst of that nation's civil war. The U.S. is backing moderate rebels seeking to topple dictator Bashar Assad.

"If someone has not made a ripple in the pond in Syria in a way that would get their identity or their interests reflected in our databases, we can query our data until the cows come home but nothing will show up because we have no record of that person," Comey told the House Homeland Security Committee in October.

McCaul and Hudson said the American Security Against Foreign Enemies (SAFE) Act would create the most robust national security vetting process in history for any refugee population.

In addition to requiring the top three national security officials to certify refugees, it requires the FBI director to certify the background investigation of each refugee. It also requires the Department of Homeland Security's inspector general to independently assess the refugee approvals to prevent high-risk people from being admitted.

"America is a compassionate country," Hudson said. "But we owe it to the American people to know who these people are."
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ian-refugees-redirected-connecticut/75988858/
Rep. John Conyers of Michigan, the senior Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee, called the bill "an extreme overreaction."

"It would effectively deny refugee status for Syrians and Iraqis who are victims of terrorism in their own homelands," Conyers said. "Rather than betraying our values, we must continue to focus on the most effective means to keep us safe while also providing protection for the world's most vulnerable."

In the Senate, Jeff Flake of Arizona and Dianne Feinstein of California introduced legislation Thursday to disqualify Europeans and other foreign citizens from being granted a visa waiver to enter the U.S. if they have traveled to Syria or Iraq within the past five years. The U.S. has a program that exempts the citizens of about 40 nations — all strong U.S. allies — from having to get visas to enter the country.
 
加拿大的党员议员, 真的不能倒戈吗?

该法案以289票对137票获得通过,其中获得了近50名民主党人的支持。该法案要求联邦调查局局长、国土安全部部长和国家情报总监确认每一个来自叙利亚和伊拉克的申请人不会构成任何威胁,对于这一要求,白宫称之为“不切实际的”。这项提案得到了民主党重要的支持,即便在19日上午政府官员恳求他们放弃这项提案之后。

美国的制度显然鼓励议员反应民声, 而不是遵循"独裁"的决定. 加拿大应该也是一样.
 
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加拿大的党员议员, 真的不能倒戈吗?

该法案以289票对137票获得通过,其中获得了近50名民主党人的支持。该法案要求联邦调查局局长、国土安全部部长和国家情报总监确认每一个来自叙利亚和伊拉克的申请人不会构成任何威胁,对于这一要求,白宫称之为“不切实际的”。这项提案得到了民主党重要的支持,即便在19日上午政府官员恳求他们放弃这项提案之后。

美国的制度显然鼓励议员反应民声, 而不是遵循"独裁"的决定. 加拿大应该也是一样.

能。决定权在个人。那议员如何衡量得失,不得而知。

在加拿大,议员cross the floor的不乏其人。
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canadian_politicians_who_have_crossed_the_floor
 
我的脑海里出现一个画面,若干年后各国联军围在美国总统周围,听完他振奋人心的演讲,义无反顾的冲向前线:tx:
 
加拿大议员也不是全是 SONG B.

总之,
老胡说的对, 民主从制度上是可信赖的,
但是执行上, 全是SONG B 也没办法.

美国老百姓是经过911, 911后的博爱期, 严管期... 是过来人.

加拿大人 呵呵, 估计还以为中国是经济落后国家呢.
 
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