Trump envisions bill allowing many immigrants to stay in US

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(CNN)President Donald Trump wants to pass an immigration reform bill that could grant legal status to millions of undocumented immigrants living in the US.

"The time is right for an immigration bill as long as there is compromise on both sides," Trump told reporters Tuesday at the White House.

The President is eager to pass a compromise immigration bill in his first term that would stop short of granting a path to citizenship for millions of undocumented immigrants, but would allow undocumented immigrants who aren't serious or violent criminals to live, work and pay taxes in the US without fear of deportation, a senior administration official said.

Trump included the idea of a compromise in his address to a Joint Session of Congress on Tuesday night.
"I believe that real and positive immigration reform is possible, as long as we focus on the following goals: to improve jobs and wages for Americans, to strengthen our nation's security and to restore respect for our laws," Trump told lawmakers. "If we are guided by the well-being of American citizens then I believe Republicans and Democrats can work together to achieve an outcome that has eluded our country for decades."

But Trump also signaled he stands behind some of his most controversial pledges from the campaign cycle, including the "extreme vetting" behind his travel ban that was blocked by the courts, and a call to cut back on low-skilled workers entering the country with a "merit-based" immigration system.

A path to citizenship for those in the country illegally would not be part of Trump's vision for this deal, with the possible exception of "Dreamers" -- those brought into the US illegally as children.

News of the President's support for a comprehensive reform of the US's immigration system fell against a backdrop of increasingly aggressive actions by immigration authorities across the US, who under Trump's administration have found new freedom to deport undocumented immigrants who have not been convicted of a serious crime -- the bar they were told to abide by under President Barack Obama's tenure.

But Trump's new apparent desire to grant legal status to many undocumented immigrants living in the US also marks a startling reversal from the positions he championed during his campaign for president. Trump focused on the need to build a wall along the US-Mexico border, and for much of his campaign, called for deporting all estimated 11 million undocumented immigrants living in the US. The closest he came to calling for a path to legalization for undocumented immigrants was in his calls to allow the "good ones" who had been deported to reenter the US through an expedited, legal process.

Democrats on the Hill may be open to working with the administration on a compromise, sources said -- but healthy skepticism remained about Trump's true intentions on Tuesday and lawmakers signaled they'd want to see more from the President, and less aggressive immigration enforcement actions, before they believed him.
Tackling immigration reform would be another massive legislative endeavor, piling on top of Trump's already ambitious goals of repealing and replacing Obamacare and passing a tax reform package.

It would perhaps be the ultimate test of Trump's deal-making credentials, which he touted daily on the campaign trail.

Supporting a pathway to legalization for millions of undocumented immigrants could roil his base of supporters, many of whom flocked to Trump early on due to his controversial and hardline position on immigration.
But the official said Trump does not see the bill as something that would necessarily upset Trump's base, stressing that there would need to be "a softening on both sides."

"It has to be a negotiation," the official said, arguing that the bill theoretically could make people on both the "far right" and "far left" happy -- and it's a negotiation the President believes he could successfully broker, the official said.

The President believes that the nation is now in a position where it can pass immigration legislation after decades of failed efforts, and he believes the country is "exhausted."

"There's got to be a coming together," the official said.

In private, immigration activists on both sides of the spectrum believe that compromises can be made during Trump's tenure, although the inclusion of a "pathway to citizenship" for the millions of people living in the US illegally remains a tough sticking point.

"People would be willing to discuss it," one senior Democratic Hill aide who works on immigration issues said.
For Democrats, "there is openness to discussing options that may fall short of a full path to citizenship," the aide added.

Still, healthy skepticism remains about whether the White House is being genuine.

"It's just hard to believe this President," the Democratic staffer said. "He says things in one room to one group of people and then the next day he does things that are the opposite."

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer said Trump still has work to do to gain Democrats' trust.

"He's got a lot to undo," Schumer said. "The immigrant community is rightfully scared of what President Trump has done. His executive order goes far beyond what anyone proposed. People are cowering. It's going to hurt us economically. ... (The administration doesn't) seem to know what they are doing. They simply come up with these proposals that sound good and then they can't implement them."

Schumer was echoed by fellow Democrat Oregon Sen. Ron Wyden, who said Trump would have some walking back to do.

"I would have to see the details of any proposal," Wyden said. "Certainly if he is looking at something bipartisan, he's going to have to walk back some of the statements that he has made time after time after time, which in effect would say that there'd be a lot of focus by immigration authorities like ICE on people who have not committed any serious crimes."

The Congressional Hispanic Caucus, mainly made up of Democrats, released a statement in response to Trump's Tuesday remarks, essentially welcoming him to the immigration reform club.

"We've been ready," said Rep. Michelle Lujan Grisham, chairwoman of the caucus.

As always with immigration reform, the devil is in the details. In 2013, the Gang of Eight's immigration reform bill passed with wide bipartisan support in the Senate only to die in the House, where leadership did not move it forward.

Many of the compromises in that bill still enjoy wide support in Washington, but the pathway to citizenship has remained toxic for the Republican base, which labeled it "amnesty."

Trump has taken a hardline position on immigration -- with charged rhetoric against illegal immigration throughout the campaign.

In the later stages of the campaign and after, he softened slightly, signaling empathy toward Dreamers and saying that deportations for some undocumented immigrants are not necessarily a priority.

White House spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders said the President has been clear about his openness to conversations about a compromise on immigration, but added the focus at the moment is "border control" and "deporting criminals."

For both Democrats and Republicans, the sequencing matters greatly in negotiating a compromise on immigration.

Some Republican lawmakers endorsed the idea of reform compromises, but said they would like to see efforts to move forward come in pieces. Colorado Republican Sen. Cory Gardner said there are areas of "common ground," but that it would have to be done piecemeal.

"I think that's something I've been asking for for a very long time," Gardner said. "I think we can find there is a way forward on an immigration package that Democrats and Republican can support. ... (But) the American people have expressed whether it's through the Affordable Care Act or through the Gang of Eight bill that they would rather see a series of package of bills that Congress can use to gain the trust of the American people as we implement the reform."

Florida Republican Sen. Marco Rubio, one of the members of the 2013 Gang of Eight who suffered politically for his participation, said that he thinks legalization is better than the status quo, though he originally supported a pathway to citizenship in his bill.

"I personally have always believed that it's not a good idea to have millions of people in your country that can never become citizens but I certainly think legalization is better than what they have now," Rubio said. "And if that's what we need to do to get progress, I would be able to accept that."

But he also said the path forward exists through smaller pieces.

"Immigration reform is something most people are in favor of," Rubio said. "It's what's in that immigration reform that can quickly become controversial. So we'll see. It will take a lot of work. It's a tough issue. And I truly believe it has to be done in multiple steps, piecemeal approach."

Other Republicans didn't want to discuss the possibility until border security was addressed.

"It's an important discussion and one we've been trying to resolve for many years now, so I welcome the opportunity to have that discussion," said No. 2 Senate Republican and Texan John Cornyn. "For my own part, I believe we need to regain the public's confidence that we're actually serious about enforcing the law and securing the border, and to me those are the most important priorities."

Republicans have for years insisted they would be open to immigration reform -- if border security and enforcement of existing laws come first. They blamed President Barack Obama for not enforcing laws, and said they did not trust him enough to send him any bill that would be lenient toward undocumented immigrants, alleging he would ignore any enforcement provisions of such a bill.

Now, with Trump as president, the winds have shifted and that argument is off the table, since Trump has made enforcing immigration laws on the books that have been unused for years a priority in his first month as President.
But Democrats are also concerned about sequencing, and while they would agree to certain enhanced enforcement and border-security measures, they are concerned that if they agree to too much compromise, Republicans will never return to working out something to give security to the undocumented immigrants living in the US peacefully who have often have families that are American citizens.

The difficulty has extended even to the narrow BRIDGE Act, proposed by Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina and Illinois Democratic Sen. Dick Durbin, which would give the undocumented Dreamers currently protected by Obama administration policies formal reprieve from deportations, should the policy be ended by the Trump administration.

The legislation enjoys generally wide support among lawmakers and could likely have the votes to pass Congress, but leadership has been hesitant to move the bill forward, with Republicans concerned that it would be viewed by their base as too lenient and Democrats concerned that agreeing to pass the BRIDGE Act along with another compromise would mean other undocumented immigrants would not be given any such relief in the future.
 
卧槽,这就等于对一部分非法移民进行大赦。看来川普在玩脑筋急转弯
 
卧槽,这就等于对一部分非法移民进行大赦。看来川普在玩脑筋急转弯

绝对啊。

逃窜到加拿大来的那些人可能后悔了! 
 
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华盛顿——特朗普总统周二告诉新闻主播,他对移民政策进行广泛改革保持开放态度,这可能会给数以百万计的没有犯下严重罪行的无证移民赋予法律地位。这显示他的政策可能会出现重大转变。

了解当时情况的人说,特朗普在白宫对新闻主持人表示,“现在是时候推出一项移民法案了,只要双方都做出妥协。”这些人要求匿名,因为没有获得谈论私人会议的授权。

这与特朗普在入主白宫的最初几周里,主张对无证移民进行广泛打压的立场截然不同,他的强硬立场得到了帮助他进入白宫的铁杆支持者的热情接受。就在他第一次在国会发表讲话的数小时之前,特朗普暗示会进行这种逆转,虽然不清楚他是否会在国会的讲话中提到这一点。

对于特朗普来说,进行全面的移民改革将会是一个戏剧性的转变,之前他的竞选集会上充满要在墨西哥边境“修建隔离墙”的口号,上个月他还签署了一道行政命令,要求驱逐伪造过身份文件或者犯过罪的无证移民——无论他们是否遭到过起诉。估计美国有1100万人适用于这个标准。

白宫没有对这个报道提出异议,但是副发言人萨拉·赫卡比·桑德斯(Sarah Huckabee Sanders)表示她当时不在场,因此无法确认这次谈话。

“总统对这个过程非常清楚:移民制度问题很大,需要大规模的改革。他已经明确表示过,他就推进其进程展开对话持开放心态。”桑德斯说:“他已经再三重申,目前他的主要焦点就是在边境上进行广泛的控制、保证安全,把犯罪分子从我们国家赶出去,确保国家安全,这些优先事项并没有改变。”

特朗普发表这番关于移民言论的第二天,将会发布一道经过修订的行政命令,阻止七个主要的穆斯林国家的人前往美国,并且暂停接受难民。之前由于受到法律挑战,禁令进行了修订。
 
绝对啊。逃窜到加拿大来的那些人可能后悔了! 
可以再偷渡回去
 
可以再偷渡回去

难度大了点儿。他们肠子都悔青了。

给无证移民身份,那些人也就可以打工、纳税了。

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U.S. President Donald Trump said on Tuesday he was open to a broad overhaul of the U.S. immigration system, a shift from his hardline campaign rhetoric, as he made his first speech to Congress following a turbulent first month in office.

Trump, in a prime-time address to a country that remains divided over his leadership, emphasized his desire to focus on problems at home by boosting the U.S. economy with tax reform, a $1-trillion infrastructure effort and an overhaul of former president Barack Obama's signature health-care law, known as Obamacare.

Trump said a broad immigration reform plan was possible if both Republicans and Democrats in Congress were willing to compromise. He said U.S. immigration should be based on a merit-based system, rather than relying on lower-skilled immigrants.



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Comprehensive immigration reform eluded his two predecessors because of deep divisions within Congress and among Americans over the issue. Trump said reform would raise wages and help struggling families enter the middle class.

"I believe that real and positive immigration reform is possible, as long as we focus on the following goals: to improve jobs and wages for Americans, to strengthen our nation's security, and to restore respect for our laws," said the Republican president, who took a hard line against illegal immigrants in his 2016 campaign.

Short on details
Trump voiced a need to persuade Americans to rally behind his agenda after a bitterly fought election, but he made his argument in terms of getting behind his effort for a "new chapter of American greatness."

Trump said he wanted to provide "massive tax relief" to the middle class and cut corporate tax rates. But he did not offer specifics and failed to comment on the most pressing tax issue facing Congress, a proposed border adjustment tax to boost exports over imports.



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Lawmakers have been looking to Trump for more leadership on an issue that has divided corporate America and Republicans in Congress.

His speech was a far more conventional presidential speech than his Jan. 20 inaugural address, in which he painted a bleak picture of the country and described it as beset with "American carnage."

'Buy American, and hire American'
Trump also called for a "new program" of national building.

Invoking President Dwight Eisenhower's infrastructure program to create the highway system, Trump said it's time again for Americans to come together to rebuild itself.



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Trump said he'll ask Congress for $1 trillion for U.S. infrastructure, financed by public and private capital. He says it will create millions of new jobs.

The president lamented the amount of money the U.S. has spent over the years building up other nations' infrastructure. He said the U.S. should have focused on rebuilding itself.

Trump said two principles will guide the infrastructure project: "Buy American, and hire American."

Trudeau mentioned in gender parity initiative
Trump mentioned Prime Minister Justin Trudeau while highlighting the women's business group created during the prime minister's recent visit to Washington, which involves the president's daughter Ivanka.

"With the help of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, we have formed a council with our neighbours in Canada to help ensure that women entrepreneurs have access to the networks, markets and capital they need to start a business and live out their financial dreams," Trump said.



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The idea for the project came from Trudeau's chief of staff Katie Telford, who raised it with Ivanka's husband, White House aide Jared Kushner.

Other elements of the speech that touch on Canadian interests included his promise to build the Keystone XL pipeline and his withdrawal from the Trans-Pacific Partnership.

'Obamacare is collapsing'
Trump called on the Republican-led Congress to repeal and replace Obamacare with reforms that expand choice, increase access and lower costs.

"Obamacare is collapsing, and we must act decisively to protect all Americans," he said. "Action is not a choice — it is a necessity."

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U.S. President Donald Trump speaks to Congress, saying 'the time for small thinking is behind us.' (Jim Lo Scalzo/Pool Image via AP)

Republicans remain divided on how to accomplish that goal, and Democrats are ardently opposed to tampering with a system that provides health insurance for millions of low-income Americans.

Former Kentucky governor Steve Beshear said in the Democratic response to Trump's speech that "you and your Republican allies in Congress seem determined to rip affordable health insurance away from millions of Americans who most need it."
 
没有这么简单。无证移民很多都是有工作的,拿到身分以后,会转入合法就业市场。然后新的无证移民会进来,填补地下劳动力市场的空缺。这样又产生新的无证移民问题和大赦需求。这种大赦以前有多次,反复循环。问题永远解决不了。根源在于美国社会结构性空隙和对廉价劳动力的巨大需求

难度大了点儿。他们肠子都悔青了。给无证移民身份,那些人也就可以打工、纳税了。
 
没有这么简单。无证移民很多都是有工作的,拿到身分以后,会转入合法就业市场。然后新的无证移民会进来,填补地下劳动力市场的空缺。这样又产生新的无证移民问题和大赦需求。这种大赦以前有多次,反复循环。问题永远解决不了。根源在于美国社会结构性空隙和对廉价劳动力的巨大需求

那不就是美国么。
 
很现实的商人方式。“positive immigration reform “。 同时提出禁止政府工作人员在离开政府部门后五年内游说政府部门,这也是一种防止腐败的好方式之一。
 
Basically, I like Mr. President's speech tonight.
特朗普终于上路了,他没有继续撕。判若两人啊!:p:D

无论是否赞成他的讲话内容,尽管空洞少有具体的东西,我以为,特朗普今晚的讲话是他迄今最好的一次讲话,有点儿总统范儿了。至少他让人能听下去、看下去。他让我第一次能坚持从头到尾看了他讲话的电视直播。:D

特朗普也做了点儿政策调整,在unducomented immigrants问题上有松动。
 
Cfc小左小右对川普的演讲意见一致,肯定是有人吃错药了
具体施政的时候,一定是几家欢喜几家愁


 
Cfc小左小右对川普的演讲意见一致,肯定是有人吃错药了
具体施政的时候,一定是几家欢喜几家愁

我看你吃错药了。:p

有人在这里说具体内容了么?路子还长着呢。
 
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