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Trudeau calls on Muslims to join Conservative Party, fight anti-Muslim sentiments
Posted by: Jonathan D. Halevi December 5, 2016
In a roundtable discussion with Syrian refugees, sponsors and Matt Galloway, the host of CBC Toronto’s Metro Morning, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau reiterated his belief that Canada is benefiting from welcoming refugees, slammed those who “play on fears” or “highlight differences” and called on Muslim Canadians to join also the Conservative Party to confront anti-Muslim sentiments like those expressed by MP Kellie Leitch.
The following is the transcript of the interview (aired on December 5, 2016):
Matt Galloway:“President-elect of the United States Donald Trump says that under his administration they will accept no Syrian refugees. Why do you think they’ve taken that approach?”
Justin Trudeau:
“I’m not going to answer why. I‘m just going to continue to point out the facts that the way Canada is benefiting from welcoming in people who are so deeply committed to living up to the opportunity given to them.
“The fact is I know that you people often talk about how refugees or immigrants might be second class citizens of a country they join. That has never happened in Canada, because Canadians to a certain extent, basically I have, always jealous of people who get to choose Canada. I got born here. My parent didn’t get to choose to come to Canada. My great grandparents did on the Scottish side, but I didn’t get to choose Canada. You got to choose Canada. You got to decide that you want to shape and build a country that twins up with your passion and your values and you want to build a better future for yourself and your kids.”
Matt Galloway:
“We’ve seen other countries not only the United States, there are other governments around the world, in the last year since we have involved in this [welcoming Syrian refugees] that has stepped away from this, that have tightened up, they said: we don’t want anything to do with this. I just wonder, why do you think that is happening? Why the mood has changed?”
Justin Trudeau:
“I challenge any of one of those governments, or their citizens to sit down around a table like this and break bread and not be afraid of the other, but understand that you are being open to different experiences, to different paths and stories as we‘re sharing the same goals and building a better future for our kids, more opportunities for our neighbours and better peaceful success for all of us, that we’re much better coming at it from a whole bunch of different angles and working together to achieve.”
Matt Galloway:
“How concerned are are you about the rise of anti-refugee, anti-immigrant sentiment here in this country? More people say we need to take care of our first rather than bring somebody else.”
Justin Trudeau:
“I think that the stories that you’ve told about wanting to make sure that your experience fits into me doing a better job of taking care of everyone is a piece of that.
“I think the fact that, there’s always going to be a temptation by certain people to play on fears and highlight differences, but quite frankly, as long as we do a good job of sharing your stories, of getting people to be involved in your success as we have, it’s going to be hard to really get traction in a country that everyone except indigenous peoples came here for somewhere else to build their life.”
Matt Galloway:
“Just the last point on this, which is that to a lot of people it’s about who we are bringing in and there are people who believe and understand that there is a benefit from people arriving here and there are others who as you know are suspicious. When someone like a candidate for the Conservative leadership says: we need to be screening for anti Canadian values. What is your reaction to that?”
Justin Trudeau:
“A few weeks ago, I was meeting a group of Muslim Canadians, and they were very happy to see me, very supportive of me, that particular group, and I said: ok, I’m glad you are all supportive of me, but I have a request. You all have friends, family members who disagree with me on this or that or other things, may be little more conservative economically or a little more environmentally, you know, out there than I am. The other two political parties have leadership races right now.
“I’d like to see more Canadians of diverse backgrounds engaging with parties which line up with their convictions and ideologies to make sure that no party gets to run against Muslim Canadians or any other group of Canadians and demonize them. I think the way we do that is by getting involved in the whole breadth of the political spectrum in Canada. I’d like people to decide they’re more aligned with me and my party but they should also think about being active and aligned with parties that disagree with me on certain issues.”
To watch the interview click HERE.
Trudeau implies: reformed and “diverse” electoral system will give advantage to the Liberals
During his visit (April 20 to 22, 2016) to New York City to sign the Paris Agreement on climate change, Trudeau also discussed the issues of climate change and youth engagement with students at New York University.
Trudeau explained in detail to the students why Canada is so passionate (“I’m exited”) about his plan to reform the electoral system.
According to Trudeau, the current first past the post system does not work well for Canada because it is “a very large heterogeneous country with very unequal distributions of population.”
Trudeau maintained that a reformed electoral system is needed to give a more significant representation for minorities and to enhance the principal of diversity, namely multiculturalism.
He also suggested that Liberal Party should be “rewarded” by the future electoral system for its belief in diversity and for preventing a multiparty system that would give voice to various groups but would also reflect “diversity” in society.
The following is the transcript of Trudeau’s answer to a question posed by a student at New York University (to listen to the audio file click here):
Question:
“My peers and I think felt disenfranchised, partially because of the electoral system, and I was wondering if you have any plans on getting rid of the first past the post system and arranging something a little bit more proportional for Canadian representation?”
Justin Trudeau:
“I have committed to an electoral reform this last election is going to, have been the last one in Canada done under the first past the post system.
“There are many different reflections to be had over what we now need to do and what kind of system we need to bring in and for me I always go back to the basic purpose.
“If we’re going to change something why are we going to change it and what is the outcome we want? And when you talk to someone who talks about electoral reform when one of the first things they’re going to say is oh, we need to make sure that every vote counts.
“And then, my question is ok, that‘s sounds like a good thing, but why? What is the result that you want. It’s not just an intellectual exercise in what perfect democracy might look like.
“The outcome we want out of any electoral system is a good government, with good governance that reflects the views of Canadians, that values the voices of every elector, that reflects, the concerns and hopes and dreams of the broadest number of people, and makes good decisions in the interests both of the short term and the long term of the country. That’s the purpose of elections to get a good government.
“Now, How to go about doing that is a really complicated question and it varies from every different jurisdiction and level in the world.
“If you have a country that’s small geographically and fairly homogeneous, a system could work there very well and be right for them. That wouldn’t work for a very large heterogeneous country with very unequal distributions of population.
“So the reflection that I‘m trying to launch now is very much going to those root elements of what is the best way to give good governments and good governance to our country? What are the values that underpin the principles around our electoral system and putting aside the question of oh, this will be good for this type of political party and this will be good for that kind of political party.
“Take a simple example like diversity. We want our government, our parliament to reflect a broad range of views of Canadians. Right? Absolutely can all agree now.
“Well, There are multiple different ways of doing that. You can have fifty different parties in the House of commons in our Parliament, each representing a different perspective and view and voice and make sure that that’s a way we highlight the diversity or you can have fewer number of political parties that do a better job of reaching out to include a broad range of voices and perspectives within their political parties.
“Do you want to reward difference or do you want to reward accommodation and inclusion? So I‘m not going to tell an answer on that although I have my own reflections as a leader of a big Liberal party that values diversity, but the perspective we have is, we have to ask ourselves these questions.
“What is it that we need to value? Do we need to augment and value minority voices in Canada. Do we have a charter that does that reasonably well or we need to focus instead on finding together common themes and common values?
“So this is a really interesting foundational question in our governance system and almost at a political science level that I am really hoping we’re going to be able to engage with in a thoughtful responsible way that isn’t just about well, how does this impact on my preferred political party in the next election, because quite frankly I trust the electors, I trust citizens to be able to work through whatever system in order to get an outcome that resembles them, but at the same time can we optimize that system so that it does the best possible job of representing the values, the views, the hopes, the dreams, the concerns of its electorate
“And that’s why I‘m excited about this conversation, but at the same time I‘m challenged by the fact that there is a huge desire for electoral reform when the current electoral system gave a result that a lot of people were really dissatisfied with, and so far people are fairly pleased with the way I’m governing, so they like: well, the electoral system worked out just fine because we got a decent government. I still believe we need to push for electoral reform, because I think we need to have a better system that will hold the test of time, and not just sort of swing back and forth between we love it we hate it.”
Two days earlier (April 19, 2006), Trudeau said to students at iVote event at the University of Ottawa that he strongly opposes a referendum on his plan to reform the electoral system, while emphasizing his expectation that the Liberal Party would benefit from the reformed system.
“The referendums are pretty good way of not getting any electoral reform,” said Trudeau. “Another way of doing is to make sure that parties that reach out themselves to fold in a broad diversity of voices and perspectives within their party, get rewarded as well.” To read the full transcript of Trudeau’s statement click here.
In several occasions since assuming power as a prime minister, Trudeau firmly maintained that Islam is compatible with Western open and secular democracy:
(November 24, 2015): “Canadians are quick to point out that ISIS is wrong, that Islam is not incompatible with the Western secular democracy, a free place like Canada.”
(January 31, 2016): “But on the other hand, we need to make sure that we’re working with communities like the Muslim community for example to demonstrate that Islam is not incompatible with free and open Western societies.”
December 25, 2015: “The Reviving the Islamic Spirit [RIS] convention… is also about celebrating our shared beliefs in justice, fairness, equality of opportunity and acceptance. The work you do in communities across the country is what builds the and strengthens our multicultural fabric.”
Posted by: Jonathan D. Halevi December 5, 2016
In a roundtable discussion with Syrian refugees, sponsors and Matt Galloway, the host of CBC Toronto’s Metro Morning, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau reiterated his belief that Canada is benefiting from welcoming refugees, slammed those who “play on fears” or “highlight differences” and called on Muslim Canadians to join also the Conservative Party to confront anti-Muslim sentiments like those expressed by MP Kellie Leitch.
The following is the transcript of the interview (aired on December 5, 2016):
Matt Galloway:“President-elect of the United States Donald Trump says that under his administration they will accept no Syrian refugees. Why do you think they’ve taken that approach?”
Justin Trudeau:
“I’m not going to answer why. I‘m just going to continue to point out the facts that the way Canada is benefiting from welcoming in people who are so deeply committed to living up to the opportunity given to them.
“The fact is I know that you people often talk about how refugees or immigrants might be second class citizens of a country they join. That has never happened in Canada, because Canadians to a certain extent, basically I have, always jealous of people who get to choose Canada. I got born here. My parent didn’t get to choose to come to Canada. My great grandparents did on the Scottish side, but I didn’t get to choose Canada. You got to choose Canada. You got to decide that you want to shape and build a country that twins up with your passion and your values and you want to build a better future for yourself and your kids.”
Matt Galloway:
“We’ve seen other countries not only the United States, there are other governments around the world, in the last year since we have involved in this [welcoming Syrian refugees] that has stepped away from this, that have tightened up, they said: we don’t want anything to do with this. I just wonder, why do you think that is happening? Why the mood has changed?”
Justin Trudeau:
“I challenge any of one of those governments, or their citizens to sit down around a table like this and break bread and not be afraid of the other, but understand that you are being open to different experiences, to different paths and stories as we‘re sharing the same goals and building a better future for our kids, more opportunities for our neighbours and better peaceful success for all of us, that we’re much better coming at it from a whole bunch of different angles and working together to achieve.”
Matt Galloway:
“How concerned are are you about the rise of anti-refugee, anti-immigrant sentiment here in this country? More people say we need to take care of our first rather than bring somebody else.”
Justin Trudeau:
“I think that the stories that you’ve told about wanting to make sure that your experience fits into me doing a better job of taking care of everyone is a piece of that.
“I think the fact that, there’s always going to be a temptation by certain people to play on fears and highlight differences, but quite frankly, as long as we do a good job of sharing your stories, of getting people to be involved in your success as we have, it’s going to be hard to really get traction in a country that everyone except indigenous peoples came here for somewhere else to build their life.”
Matt Galloway:
“Just the last point on this, which is that to a lot of people it’s about who we are bringing in and there are people who believe and understand that there is a benefit from people arriving here and there are others who as you know are suspicious. When someone like a candidate for the Conservative leadership says: we need to be screening for anti Canadian values. What is your reaction to that?”
Justin Trudeau:
“A few weeks ago, I was meeting a group of Muslim Canadians, and they were very happy to see me, very supportive of me, that particular group, and I said: ok, I’m glad you are all supportive of me, but I have a request. You all have friends, family members who disagree with me on this or that or other things, may be little more conservative economically or a little more environmentally, you know, out there than I am. The other two political parties have leadership races right now.
“I’d like to see more Canadians of diverse backgrounds engaging with parties which line up with their convictions and ideologies to make sure that no party gets to run against Muslim Canadians or any other group of Canadians and demonize them. I think the way we do that is by getting involved in the whole breadth of the political spectrum in Canada. I’d like people to decide they’re more aligned with me and my party but they should also think about being active and aligned with parties that disagree with me on certain issues.”
To watch the interview click HERE.
Trudeau implies: reformed and “diverse” electoral system will give advantage to the Liberals
During his visit (April 20 to 22, 2016) to New York City to sign the Paris Agreement on climate change, Trudeau also discussed the issues of climate change and youth engagement with students at New York University.
Trudeau explained in detail to the students why Canada is so passionate (“I’m exited”) about his plan to reform the electoral system.
According to Trudeau, the current first past the post system does not work well for Canada because it is “a very large heterogeneous country with very unequal distributions of population.”
Trudeau maintained that a reformed electoral system is needed to give a more significant representation for minorities and to enhance the principal of diversity, namely multiculturalism.
He also suggested that Liberal Party should be “rewarded” by the future electoral system for its belief in diversity and for preventing a multiparty system that would give voice to various groups but would also reflect “diversity” in society.
The following is the transcript of Trudeau’s answer to a question posed by a student at New York University (to listen to the audio file click here):
Question:
“My peers and I think felt disenfranchised, partially because of the electoral system, and I was wondering if you have any plans on getting rid of the first past the post system and arranging something a little bit more proportional for Canadian representation?”
Justin Trudeau:
“I have committed to an electoral reform this last election is going to, have been the last one in Canada done under the first past the post system.
“There are many different reflections to be had over what we now need to do and what kind of system we need to bring in and for me I always go back to the basic purpose.
“If we’re going to change something why are we going to change it and what is the outcome we want? And when you talk to someone who talks about electoral reform when one of the first things they’re going to say is oh, we need to make sure that every vote counts.
“And then, my question is ok, that‘s sounds like a good thing, but why? What is the result that you want. It’s not just an intellectual exercise in what perfect democracy might look like.
“The outcome we want out of any electoral system is a good government, with good governance that reflects the views of Canadians, that values the voices of every elector, that reflects, the concerns and hopes and dreams of the broadest number of people, and makes good decisions in the interests both of the short term and the long term of the country. That’s the purpose of elections to get a good government.
“Now, How to go about doing that is a really complicated question and it varies from every different jurisdiction and level in the world.
“If you have a country that’s small geographically and fairly homogeneous, a system could work there very well and be right for them. That wouldn’t work for a very large heterogeneous country with very unequal distributions of population.
“So the reflection that I‘m trying to launch now is very much going to those root elements of what is the best way to give good governments and good governance to our country? What are the values that underpin the principles around our electoral system and putting aside the question of oh, this will be good for this type of political party and this will be good for that kind of political party.
“Take a simple example like diversity. We want our government, our parliament to reflect a broad range of views of Canadians. Right? Absolutely can all agree now.
“Well, There are multiple different ways of doing that. You can have fifty different parties in the House of commons in our Parliament, each representing a different perspective and view and voice and make sure that that’s a way we highlight the diversity or you can have fewer number of political parties that do a better job of reaching out to include a broad range of voices and perspectives within their political parties.
“Do you want to reward difference or do you want to reward accommodation and inclusion? So I‘m not going to tell an answer on that although I have my own reflections as a leader of a big Liberal party that values diversity, but the perspective we have is, we have to ask ourselves these questions.
“What is it that we need to value? Do we need to augment and value minority voices in Canada. Do we have a charter that does that reasonably well or we need to focus instead on finding together common themes and common values?
“So this is a really interesting foundational question in our governance system and almost at a political science level that I am really hoping we’re going to be able to engage with in a thoughtful responsible way that isn’t just about well, how does this impact on my preferred political party in the next election, because quite frankly I trust the electors, I trust citizens to be able to work through whatever system in order to get an outcome that resembles them, but at the same time can we optimize that system so that it does the best possible job of representing the values, the views, the hopes, the dreams, the concerns of its electorate
“And that’s why I‘m excited about this conversation, but at the same time I‘m challenged by the fact that there is a huge desire for electoral reform when the current electoral system gave a result that a lot of people were really dissatisfied with, and so far people are fairly pleased with the way I’m governing, so they like: well, the electoral system worked out just fine because we got a decent government. I still believe we need to push for electoral reform, because I think we need to have a better system that will hold the test of time, and not just sort of swing back and forth between we love it we hate it.”
Two days earlier (April 19, 2006), Trudeau said to students at iVote event at the University of Ottawa that he strongly opposes a referendum on his plan to reform the electoral system, while emphasizing his expectation that the Liberal Party would benefit from the reformed system.
“The referendums are pretty good way of not getting any electoral reform,” said Trudeau. “Another way of doing is to make sure that parties that reach out themselves to fold in a broad diversity of voices and perspectives within their party, get rewarded as well.” To read the full transcript of Trudeau’s statement click here.
In several occasions since assuming power as a prime minister, Trudeau firmly maintained that Islam is compatible with Western open and secular democracy:
(November 24, 2015): “Canadians are quick to point out that ISIS is wrong, that Islam is not incompatible with the Western secular democracy, a free place like Canada.”
(January 31, 2016): “But on the other hand, we need to make sure that we’re working with communities like the Muslim community for example to demonstrate that Islam is not incompatible with free and open Western societies.”
December 25, 2015: “The Reviving the Islamic Spirit [RIS] convention… is also about celebrating our shared beliefs in justice, fairness, equality of opportunity and acceptance. The work you do in communities across the country is what builds the and strengthens our multicultural fabric.”
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