Trump wants to apply $50B in tariffs on Chinese goods, taking first shots in trade war

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Dow Jones off by almost 500 points, even as details on tariffs won't be known for 2 weeks


Donald Trump was set to sign a presidential memorandum on Thursday that will give trade officials two weeks to come up with a list of Chinese-made products on which to put tariffs, with the goal of slapping $50 billion in punitive damages on a country the U.S. says doesn't trade fairly.

A little after noon ET in Washington, the U.S. president will sign a document instructing the Treasury Department to look at implementing tariffs on a wide swath of Chinese-made products, under the guise of fighting back against unfair trading practices.

Unlike the move earlier this month to put tariffs on steel and aluminum, Thursday's memo isn't expected to come up with a list of products destined to see tariffs. Rather, it gives officials 15 days to come up with a list of products tailored to do $50 billion in economic harm to China, while minimizing the impact on American consumers and companies.

Stock markets started reacting even before the news came out, with the Dow Jones Industrial Average off almost 500 points or two per cent, and the technology-heavy Nasdaq off by even more.

The Nasdaq took a heavy hit, because the types of products likely to be targeted could be high tech, heavily represented among its listings. A senior administration official said the list of targeted sectors will borrow heavily from China's own pronouncements on industries it is aggressively trying to expand in, including aerospace, rail, high tech infrastructure, artificial intelligence, and robotics.

Those are all industries listed in a document called "Made in China 2025," which the administration says lays out China's economic strategy moving forward.

"It's basically China's blueprint for domination in the industries of the future," the official said. "These tariffs are designed to compensate the U.S. for the harm that their policies have imposed on America."

The U.S. alleges that China is an unfair trading partner in that it requires foreign companies to surrender all of their technology to do business in China, and only allows them minority stakes in the Chinese subsidiaries they set up.

China then uses that technology to compete with U.S. companies in China and around the world, the administration alleges. Since 2001, when China joined the World Trade Organization, China's economy has grown from $1 trillion to almost $12 trillion, a time when the U.S. economy has comparatively "sputtered," as the official put it.

U.S. trade officials have already identified a list of 1,300 different product lines that could be hit by tariffs, and will now come up with a list within 15 days. After that, there will be a consultation period on the final list, at which point the tariffs will be implemented.

The United States will also pursue litigation in the World Trade Organization to address what the administration calls China's discriminatory licensing practices.

The Trump administration is fond of repeating its claim that China has a $370 billion trade surplus in goods with the U.S., and cites internal research suggesting that every billion dollars in trade deficit works out to a loss of about 6,000 U.S. jobs. As a result of China's trade policies, there are today two million more jobs in China than there would otherwise be, and two million fewer in the U.S., the senior White House official said.

The exact nature of the tariffs isn't known yet, but several influential U.S. groups have already come out against them. The National Retail Federation says it has issues with China's trade policies, but says tariffs are the wrong way to combat them.

"Holding China accountable for refusing to follow global trading rules is important and necessary, but instead, the tariffs proposed by the administration will punish ordinary Americans for China's violations," the group said in a release. "Engaging in a trade war will … result in higher prices for a wide range of consumer products and basic household goods."

It's not just higher prices for consumers in the U.S., either. The tariffs are almost certain to incur retaliatory moves in China on a slew of U.S. exports, including agricultural commodities, including soybeans, sorghum and live hogs, said Chris Krueger, a strategist at Washington D.C.-based research firm Cowen Research.


"The only thing harder to predict than Trump's trade agenda is the Chinese response," Krueger said, noting that any reaction won't necessarily be as limited or targeted as the U.S. actions are. For starters, Trump is taking the action under the rarely invoked Section 301 of the Trade Act of 1974, legislation that comes with all sorts of rules and regulations around it.

"China is not bound by these statutes and can get far more creative — and quick — with retaliation," Krueger said.

Reaction from Beijing has been swift, with China's Commerce Ministry saying "with regards to the Section 301 investigation, China has expressed its position on many occasions that we resolutely oppose this type of unilateral and protectionist action by the U.S."

"China will not sit idly by while legitimate rights and interests are hurt. We must take all necessary measures to firmly defend our rights and interests," the ministry added.
 
The trade war that Donald Trump always wanted starts Thursday

President Trump will announce Thursday a series of trade enforcement actions designed to punish China for years of widespread violations of U.S. intellectual property rights, the White House said.

Although White House plans remain fluid, the president is expected to announce steep tariffs on about $50 billion in Chinese products along with restrictions on Chinese investment in the United States designed to mirror limits faced by Americans investing in China, industry executives said.

Tighter visa policies for Chinese students are also being considered, according to the executives, who spoke on the condition of anonymity in order to discuss private conversations.

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© Reuters U.S. President Donald Trump speaks during a round table meeting with members of law enforcement about sanctuary cities in the Roosevelt Room at the White House in Washington, U.S., March 20, 2018. The trade crackdown on China follows years of fruitless negotiations that failed to halt “China’s state-led, market-distorting efforts to force, pressure and steal U.S. technologies and intellectual property,” said Raj Shah, principal deputy press secretary.

Since the 1983 formation of the Joint Commission on Commerce and Trade, the two countries have tried in various diplomatic settings to hammer out agreements on the economic issues that divide them.

But years of broken Chinese promises explain why the president is preparing to take the toughest — and potentially most disruptive — U.S. trade actions against China in a generation, according to an official with the U.S. trade representative’s office.

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© Provided by WP Company LLC d/b/a The Washington Post Xi Jinping, China’s president, right, listens to Theresa May, U.K. prime minister, during a bilateral meeting at the Diaoyutai State Guest House in Beijing, China, on Thursday, Feb. 1, 2018… “China uses these dialogues to delay and run out the clock and make you ask for things they already said they were going to do,” the official said. “The administration has not been satisfied with the type of responses we’ve been getting from China.”

The official requested anonymity to provide context for the president’s announcement of new steps designed to punish China for violating U.S. intellectual property rights by stealing trade secrets or forcing companies to surrender them in return for market access.

Administration officials are bracing for a firm Chinese response to any action. Chinese President Xi Jinping, fresh from eliminating term limits on his rule, presides over a government that already has drawn up lists of potential American products for retaliation in a trade war.

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© AP FILE - In this Nov. 9, 2017 file photo, an American flag is flown next to the Chinese national emblem during a welcome ceremony for visiting U.S. President Donald Trump outside the Great Hall of the People in Beijing. China warned Washington… “China is not going to want to come to the negotiating table from a position of weakness,” said Claire Reade, former U.S. trade representative chief counsel for China trade enforcement. “They’ve been thinking of this since Trump was elected.”

In testimony Wednesday before the House Ways and Means Committee, Robert E. Lighthizer, the U.S. trade representative, called China’s intellectual property rights practices “an assault” on American high-technology industries.

After the hurried rollout this month of new tariffs on imported steel and aluminum, the Trump administration is portraying the coming China moves as the result of a deliberative interagency process.

The president opted for new trade barriers after sounding out officials in Beijing about a potential deal, the official said.

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© AP A clerk, right, helps a woman shop for chicken at a supermarket in Beijing, Friday, May 12, 2017. Starting at Xi’s visit to Trump’s Mar-a-Lago Florida retreat last spring, U.S. and Chinese officials met for talks aimed at resolving lingering trade differences.

“There’s very little evidence that China’s actual behavior was changing for the better,” the official said.

The president sees the record $375 billion deficit in goods trade with China as evidence that U.S. businesses are being unfairly treated. Many economists say that bilateral trade scores reflect broader economic forces, including Americans’ propensity to buy imported goods rather than save.

When last year’s talks made little headway, Trump in August ordered Lighthizer to investigate whether China was discriminating against U.S. companies with its intellectual property practices.

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© Reuters U.S. President Donald Trump prepares to deliver remarks at the National Republican Congressional Committee's annual March dinner at the National Building Museum in Washington, U.S., March 20, 2018. The administration says that U.S. companies face pressure to hand over technology to their Chinese partners to gain needed government permits and licenses. Chinese hackers also have penetrated computer networks of companies such as U.S. Steel, making off with confidential business plans. And Chinese investors, including state-backed funds, have been encouraged by their government to acquire U.S. intellectual property by buying Silicon Valley companies, officials said.

Chinese companies often register U.S. trademarks as their own in China and effectively hold them for “ransom” from the legitimate owner, according to a January report from Lighthizer’s office.

U.S. companies also complained of only “relatively modest progress made by China over the last several years in reducing” the use of pirated software and a continuing problem with trade-secret theft from their China-based research centers, the report added.
 
Remember this word, "reciprocal"!
 
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说好的600亿, 一下就变成500亿了。
 
川普上台一年,中国贸易顺差创了新高。不搞点事情不行。但是搞的太大,把股市搞的太怂也不行。

小老百姓,吃瓜磕瓜子看戏就好了
 
习总都称帝了,这种大事习总亲自思考一下,也就解决了
 
川普上台一年,中国贸易顺差创了新高。不搞点事情不行。但是搞的太大,把股市搞的太怂也不行。

小老百姓,吃瓜磕瓜子看戏就好了

看来中国不出血是不行了。
 
瞧美国那点出息,看来是真的不行了,中国打发叫花子的都比这个多。就光中国给亚非拉的钱,美国建国门?!中国在乎你美国瘪三乞求这点钱吗?开玩笑!那些给亚非拉的都不需要还的,羡慕死美国。中国拿500b拽丫脸上,让丫滚,说剩下450b不用找了。我们也是帝国了现在,不输这面子。对要饭的,就不能手软。
 
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瞧美国那点出息,看来是真的不行了,中国打发叫花子的都比这个多。就光中国给亚非拉的钱,美国建国门?!中国在乎你美国瘪三乞求这点钱吗?开玩笑!那些给亚非拉的都不需要还的,羡慕死美国。中国拿500b拽丫脸上,让丫滚,说剩下450b不用找了。我们也是帝国了现在,不输这面子。对要饭的,就不能手软。
你这悲粪有一腚水准
 
吃烤鸭呢,没工夫和你们闲扯。中国梦,醒不了。

说实话,这点小钱,对中国最穷的一个省都九牛一毛。

我开始同情特朗普和美国了。纸老虎都混到这地步了,唉。
 
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