Is Canada a dangerous bastion of socialism? According to Trump, maybe

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Like the term liberal, socialism has many shades of meaning and some apply to us in Canada
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Don Pittis · CBC News · Posted: Feb 11, 2019 4:00 AM ET | Last Updated: February 11

So what exactly is socialism, anyway, and why is U.S. President Donald Trump so alarmed about it?

In what some are calling the start of a new Red Scare of the kind that divided U.S. politics and economics in the previous century, the president used last week's state of the union address to stoke partisan anxiety.

"Here in the United States, we are alarmed by the new calls to adopt socialism in our country," Trump declared in his speech to Congress. "America was founded on liberty and independence — and not government coercion, domination and control."

As he spoke, network cameras panned to self-declared supporter of socialism Sen. Bernie Sanders and, by U.S. standards, the left-leaning Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

'Socialist' like Canada?
But, of course, to most Canadians — and to most of the world's other liberal democracies — the socialism of Sanders and Ocasio-Cortez that advocates things like universal health care and moderating the extremes of U.S. wealth and poverty does not seem very alarming.

To most Canadians, raised in what has been called a mixed economy for its combination of the public and private sector, that kind of socialism holds little terror.

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Left-leaning member of Congress Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez looks down at a button with a picture of a child, as Trump talks about immigration during his state of the union address. (Jonathan Ernst/Reuters)
The discussion of who owns the means of production is one of the places where politics and economics come together in the subject area known as political economy.

When I studied economics decades ago, most of the courses analyzed the pure mechanics of capitalism.

Political economy only raised its head in a final-year course on the history of economic thought, which came as a revelation, and in which anyone who did not follow mainstream capitalist thinking was described scathingly as "heterodox." That included socialism.

Socialism defined
In a short telephone call, Laura Macdonald, a Carleton University professor and former director of the school's Institute of Political Economy, offered the following:

"Socialism is a broad ideology that has different variants, but in general is associated with greater faith in the role of the state versus the market, and a skepticism about the capacity of the market, on its own, to deliver both growth and social equity."

As a term, she said, socialism is contextual, which means to say it depends on how you use it.

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A sculpture of Karl Marx, author of The Communist Manifesto, in Chemnitz, Germany. (Hannibal Hanschke/Reuters)
"I don't think Donald Trump would call us socialist, but probably he thinks we're dangerously close to that and that may be one of the reasons he doesn't like Canada very much," Macdonald said.

Stella Gaon, a theorist at Saint Mary's University in Halifax who specializes in the economic and intellectual origins of political thought, says Trump's remarks hark back to the era of McCarthyism.

"This is just anti-commie rhetoric from the 1950s," Gaon said. "Nobody even knows what socialism is."

Liberalism vs. socialism
Socialism and liberalism are both rooted in the Enlightenment values of freedom, rationality and equality, she said.

The difference between socialism and liberalism is that socialists don't believe equality is real unless you include economic equality.


In its purest theoretical form, socialism required people to be equally rich, an ideal that Gaon said has never been attained in practice. In its original form, it also required the state to be in control of everything. No private businesses allowed.

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A memorial to Karl Marx in London's Highgate Cemetery was damaged by a vandal earlier this month. (Peter Nicholls/Reuters)
Socialism has come a long way since the days when socialism and communism meant roughly the same thing, said Tom Flanagan, a political theorist and professor emeritus at the University of Calgary.

Socialism meant the state control of all industry and "the replacement of the markets by an administrative economy," said Flanagan, a conservative political activist who was an adviser to former Canadian prime minister Stephen Harper.

But since then, and especially after the creation of the Soviet top-down communist system in the 20th century, social democracy became the mainstream form of socialism outside communist countries, a kind of watered-down version we see in northern Europe and elsewhere that attempts to share the wealth and equalize opportunity without requiring economic equality.

America, the already socialist
Whereas Gaon insists Canada is purely a liberal democracy — after all, even the country's left-leaning New Democratic Party has dropped the word socialism from its constitution — Flanagan sees many elements of socialism and administrative planning not just in Canada but in the U.S. as well.

According to that way of thinking, Trump may be too late. Socialism has already arrived.

"It's a matter of degree," Flanagan said. "All contemporary countries have some elements of socialism, you know, public schools are socialist, owned and operated by the state and there's no price to get into them."

While Flanagan doesn't see a full-fledged socialist takeover on the horizon, he says using the term within the Democratic Party represents a major change.

"Suddenly it's gone mainstream," he said. "It's an important development, because once you start using the vocabulary, it indicates receptivity to more sweeping programs of state intervention."
 
流浪地球?五毛?美分?吵个没完。
还是看看这篇有5400个COMMENTS的文章吧。
 
重新认识一下什么是socialism, 什么是liberalism。
 
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福娃省长不是刚说了高校学生社团都是“crazy Marxist nonsense”、要削减他们的经费吗?
原来最近马克思又开始走红啦?:D
 
反正我是不愿看到社会主义,马克思主义。谢谢,but no.
 
中国是社会主义? 谁是资本主义?
 
资本主义国家一直在不断地增加社会主义的元素,而号称社会主义的国家,却在不断地增加资本主义元素。
 
左右翼还基本是以这个划分的。右翼选举时的卖点,减税、减少行业管制、减少最低工资社会福利、刺激自由经济,社会意识形态上严禁LGBT,鼓励个人持枪,污化左翼搞社会主义。实际上它故意混淆西方是在私有财产受到严厉保护下自由经济体的社会主义,仅是社会财富分配上更均等,社会保障体系更完善而已。因为资本社会已不是起步阶段,财富阶层都已固化,人生而经济上、社会资源已经不平等,top1%控制六、七成的社会财富,政府必须扮演重要角色去平衡这个社会。
美國加拿大右党从洗脑宣传和实际执行的政策都是依靠一套智库,由Top1%的超級富豪操纵的,出来的政策只利于这些超级富豪。一些中产一听保守党共和党是富人党,马上就有不支持,他就不是富人的观念附体。结果出来的政策是刀刀都砍在中产身上,因为穷人没油水榨,超级富豪要减税。税都减到大富豪家去了,社会中低层赤贫化,国家巨额赤字。美国债务赤字巨幅增長是在共和党小布什和川普时代。加拿大债务大幅增长是在保守党Mulroney 和哈珀时代。减税刺激经济都是幌子骗术而已。
顶层富豪的党如何获得民票呢?那就靠右翼那个筐,什么都能装。把党包装成充滿宗教意识形态的党,白右至上男权党,反社会主义的党。极端教徒和极端意识形态,或认为秉承传统价值观的都在里面。实际呢,美共和党和加保守党在职官员是犯罪率最高的党,他们是不搞LGBT,但吸毒、强奸、生活作风最滥、贪污也是他们。
只要生产资料所有权不是国家或全民所有,就谈不上什么社会主义。社会福利再分配,只是小头。
 
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