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Former music teacher's victim sues Royal
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  • Julie Ireton · CBC News · Posted: Jul 18, 2019 4:00 AM ET | Last Updated: 5 hours ago

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    John Myers is suing The Royal Ottawa Mental Health Centre, the Ottawa-Carleton District School Board and his former teacher, Bob Clarke, for $5 million. (Julie Ireton/CBC)
    A former Bell High School student who was sexually abused by his music teacher in the 1970s is suing The Royal Ottawa Mental Health Centre, where the teacher sought treatment.
    A CBC investigation revealed teacher Bob Clarke had sought psychiatric treatment at The Royal for decades in an attempt to control his behaviour.

    John Myers, 58, is one of 10 former students who went to police in 2016 to report historical sexual abuse by Clarke between the 1970s and 1990s.

    A civil lawsuit has now been updated to include The Royal as a defendant in a case that Myers initially launched last fall against Clarke and his former employer, the Ottawa-Carleton District School Board.

    Myers and two members of his family are suing for more than $5 million.

    "The Royal Ottawa knew what was going on and there was no duty to report? I'm totally confused why — if somebody had reported it to the school board, I hope or the police for sure, I wouldn't have had my life altered so much," Myers said. "'Tragic' is the word I use."

    'It repulsed me''
    In separate criminal court proceedings in 2018 and 2019, Clarke was convicted of crimes against all 10 students. He remains in federal prison.

    According to his claim, Myers suffered "extreme psychological and psychiatric disorders" due to Bob Clarke's "assault, battery and sexually inappropriate exposure."

    "It repulsed me at the time," Myers said of Clarke's acts of gross indecency with students both at the high school and on band trips in the 1970s. "But we carried on. I stayed in the band until Grade 13, then I started having mental issues."

    A 2017 sexual behaviours assessment presented to the court at Clarke's 2018 sentencing hearing concluded Clarke had fallen through the cracks until "the damage was done."

    "It appears that his behaviour was either minimized by assessing psychiatrists or his care was transferred to other psychiatrists and he was lost in followup and discharged from treatment," wrote the report's author, Jonathan Gray, a staff psychiatrist with The Royal's sexual behaviours clinic.


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    Former high school music teacher Bob Clarke was convicted of sex-related crimes against 10 students. He's also named in a $5-million civil suit along with the Ottawa-Carleton District School Board and The Royal Ottawa Mental Health Centre, where he sought treatment. (Sir Robert Borden High School yearbooks, 1991)
    'I'm a demon inside'
    The report quotes from Clarke's hospital record at The Royal in the 1970s.

    One entry from 1975 notes that "Clarke recently touched a 15-year-old boy and may have charges laid against him." The report said police questioned Clarke at the time, but no charges were laid.

    "I've made mistakes. I'm so sorry for having hurt them," Clarke is quoted saying in the report. "My own analysis is that I'm a demon inside and my subconscious sometimes overrides my conscious mind."

    It's unclear exactly what Clarke told his various therapists over the years about any inappropriate physical contact he had with his students.

    Myers's revised statement of claim alleges that The Royal "knew or ought to have known as early as the 1st of August 1975 that the Defendant Robert E. Clarke was involved in conduct that was sexually inappropriate with children under the age of 18 and more particularly young males."

    The Royal had a duty to report Clarke's behaviour, according to the statement of claim.

    "John has lost income, will continue to lose income and will be dependent on therapies and medications for the rest of his life. He will also require attendant care," it says.

    The Royal Ottawa Mental Health Centre has not yet filed a statement of defence, but in an email to CBC, it said it will be responding to the claim.
 
今天人民日报的新闻几乎全是回归commonsense的新闻,前几天不是有人想听喜讯吗?“让子弹飞一会”= 电影名字。
 
一大票左左闻人们难逃法网了。



不可捕风捉影。要有solid证据。否则就是迷途。

有了证据,不可网开一面,是纵容姑息。否则就是害人。

cs也容易,也难。
 
这个盖子被无良左媒伙同自由派政客捂了很久了。现在盖子揭开了一个小小缝隙,还是风暴酝酿期。坐等证据逐渐浮现,形成完美风暴。
不可捕风捉影。要有solid证据。否则就是迷途。

有了证据,不可网开一面,是纵容姑息。否则就是害人。

cs也容易,也难。
 
这个盖子被无良左媒伙同自由派政客捂了很久了。现在盖子揭开了一个小小缝隙,还是风暴酝酿期。坐等证据逐渐浮现,形成完美风暴。
这个盖子不是川普的劳工部长捂的吗?怎么都怪在左派?只判了13个月,还不让媒体宣扬。
 
这件事绝不是左右的问题。神父稍安勿躁。

要知道不论左右,哪怕你是神父都会被邪魔引诱到这条路上,例子太多不多说。

这件事的关键,也不是捂盖子。这里面的控告,取证,核实,政治影响。。。。太过复杂。因为客户都是高层。而且,必须区分应酬和真犯罪。你连克林顿丢邮件,都倒不清楚,想证明xxx的老公娈童?

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所以这事儿绝对要避免两个倾向,错杀一千,放过一个。这才是法律应有的本质。没有十年的强力调查,想做到这一点,很难。
 
这个盖子不是川普的劳工部长捂的吗?怎么都怪在左派?只判了13个月,还不让媒体宣扬。
我倒觉得这个具体的判例正是左媒伙同无良政客捂盖子的例子。左媒左党的主要问题,在于正当化这些令人发指的行为,就像他们正当化性滥交、性变态、同性恋、吸毒、伊斯兰恐怖主义一样。当然,具体案例一般都很复杂。我们等待各方慢慢厘清事实。

Alex Acosta acted with professionalism and integrity in handling the Jeffrey Epstein case
 
最后编辑:
事分两头,

单表一枝,
OK, 神父说的这是左派文化和自由主义的极端化倾向。
我同意,这些东西过分了。而且我看,下一步,推崇乱伦为伟大的爱情,已经不是笑话,非常有可能在未来几年开始。

再表另一枝,
谈案件,指控则必须遵守法律原则。谈个人操守。左派右派都会犯罪,犯错。甄别必须尊重法律原则,尊重证据。
 
https://local.6parknews.com/index.php?app=news&act=view&nid=760748

中国大爷新西兰摸男童下体 法官判其无罪:文化差异

近年来,因为文化差异造成的误会不在少数,一位旅居新西兰、年近80的中国老大爷万万没想到,自己出于玩笑的一个举动竟被视为“严重侵犯”,不仅被误解为“老变态”,还险些被定罪甚至遣返。

据英国《每日邮报》报道,日前在新西兰,一位79岁中国大爷在游泳池更衣室里摸男童生殖器一案宣判,老大爷被判无罪,因为法官认为,这是一种“文化错误”,此种行为在中国被视为一种可以接受的表达爱意的方式。

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《每日邮报》新闻截图

据《每日邮报》7月16日报道,去年8月,在新西兰第三大城市克赖斯特彻奇(Christchurch,华人简称为基督城)发生了一件令人震惊的事,一对父母报警称,自己年幼的儿子在泳池更衣室里被一位陌生的中国老大爷堂而皇之地摸了“小弟弟”。

报道称,79岁的中国大爷Changfu Ren是2009年搬到新西兰的。去年的8月18日,他在先锋娱乐体育中心(Pioneer Recreation and Sport Centre)的游泳池更衣室遇到了一个小男孩及其父亲,便向这对父子走去。

当时小男孩正在换衣服,Ren大爷开始大笑起来,又主动贴近,并伸手做了一个中国人非常熟悉的老人逗小孩的动作:

轻轻地碰了碰(flicking)男童的“小弟弟”……

面带笑容的Ren大爷丝毫没有发觉,孩子父亲此刻的表情,已十分惊诧。

法庭文件显示,随后,Ren大爷又当着这位父亲的面,轻轻地“捏了捏(gently pinched it)”男童的生殖器。

大惊之下,男童的父亲叫Ren大爷立即住手,然后拨打了报警电话。至此,Ren大爷才知道,自己的无心之举是对男童家人的冒犯。

事后,Ren大爷告诉警方,这个小男孩让他想起了他在中国的孙子,他只想表达友善和喜爱,并不知道这在新西兰是一种冒犯。

据新西兰天维网消息,法庭上,被告Ren大爷的女儿出示了一份文化背景报告,解释触摸男孩的生殖器在中国是一种常见的表达喜欢的方式,而Ren的辩护律师也表示,Ren的行为不具有危险性,不应该被驱逐回国,而且定罪的话会给他造成严重负担,他现在的健康情况也不是很好。

《每日邮报》报道称,日前,新西兰克赖斯特彻奇地区法院对此案作出宣判。法官阿利斯泰尔·加兰德(Alistair Garland)同意这是一个“文化错误(cultural mistake)”,并认为这种行为在中国是可以接受的,定罪会“对他(大爷)的自尊产生重大影响”。

“这种举动需要根据Ren先生的文化背景来理解,他的文化背景赋予男孩比女孩更高的地位和价值。生殖器被认为是受尊崇的男性的象征。”法官加兰德补充道,“Ren对自己给小男孩及其家人带来的情感伤害和忧虑感到震惊,他愿意尽自己所能来弥补。”

最后,Ren大爷被无罪释放,他向男孩的父母道了歉,并支付了1000新西兰元(约合4637元人民币)作为补偿,用于孩子的教育。

其实,这已经不是文化差异第一次造成“误会”了。

据观察者网此前报道,今年6月,一段贝克汉姆与7岁女儿小七嘴对嘴亲吻的短片引发了争议,英国知名主持人皮尔斯·摩根在节目《早安英国》上公开批评其行为“令人起鸡皮疙瘩”和“诡异”( “creepy” and “weird”),这也引发了大家对父母是否应该亲吻孩子嘴唇的讨论。

有人觉得此事无伤大雅,不过是父亲表达自己对年幼女儿的爱。

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但也有网友表达了不同观点,觉得小孩应该从小培养“性别意识”。

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7月17日,这一话题又进入了大众视野,起因是昨天(17日)播出的节目《新生日记》中,模特、演员张亮在聊到亲子关系时,笑称女儿现在天天趴在自己身上,相当黏人,但随即严肃表示不能和女儿亲嘴,若要表达爱意可以亲额头、头发和手背。

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张亮认为,性别意识的培养对女儿来说非常重要,要让她从小养成自我保护的意识。
 
楼主懂得中国文化瓦, 有没有摸小孩小鸡鸡表示爱意的靠门三丝啊:D
 
好问题!中国电影里就有。你信吗?
 
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