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等待了很久的反转终于来了,是否被嫖妓?只是一语带过:I don't want to focus on ....
现在他被迫辞职,有家难归,不敢回香港,更不敢回中国大陆,英国给了他两年工作签证。
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-50457262
Simon Cheng: Former UK consulate worker says he was tortured in China
A former employee of the UK's Hong Kong consulate has told the BBC that he was tortured in China and accused of inciting political unrest in the city.

Simon Cheng, a Hong Kong citizen who worked for the UK government for almost two years, was detained for 15 days on a trip to mainland China in August.

"I was shackled, blindfolded and hooded," the 29-year-old tells me.

UK government sources say they believe his claims - of being beaten and forced to sign confessions - are credible.

Following our interview, the British Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab summoned the Chinese ambassador.

"We are outraged by the disgraceful mistreatment that Mr Cheng faced when he was in detention in mainland China... and we've made clear that we expect the Chinese authorities to review and hold to account those responsible," Mr Raab told the BBC.

But on Wednesday a Chinese foreign ministry spokesperson told the BBC they "absolutely cannot accept the UK government's interference in this case" - and would in return summon the UK ambassador to "express their opposition and anger".


"We hope the UK will be prudent and stop interfering in Hong Kong and in China's domestic affairs because it will, eventually, only harm the UK's own interests," the spokesperson added.

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Image captionMr Cheng says he spent his free time gathering information about Hong Kong's protests, at the urging of the British Consulate
Mr Cheng's raises questions for both the Chinese and the UK governments.

The claims he makes - including that he saw other Hongkongers in Chinese custody - are likely to fuel protesters' fears that their city's freedoms are being eroded under Chinese rule.

"They said they work for the secret service and that there are no human rights," he tells me. "Then they started the torture."

Who is Simon Cheng?
As a trade and investment officer at the UK consulate, Simon Cheng's particular brief was to drum up interest in investing in Scotland among the Chinese business community.

It required him to travel frequently to mainland China.

But in June, with Hong Kong engulfed in mass demonstrations, Mr Cheng volunteered for an additional role.

"The British Consulate instructed staff to collect information about the status of the protests," he says.

As a supporter of the pro-democracy movement he found it easy to blend in and, with the consent of the consulate, he signed up to some of the social media groups through which the protesters co-ordinated their actions.

Paid overtime for the information he gathered, he began reporting back what he saw to his colleagues.

His task, both Mr Cheng and UK government sources insist, was not to direct events in any way but to purely observe - the kind of civil society monitoring work many embassies do.

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Image captionMr Cheng says he was paid overtime to gather information on Hong Kong's protests
But China had already begun to accuse the UK of meddling in Hong Kong, with British politicians becoming increasing vocal in their support for the protesters.

On 8 August, with emails still on his phone linking him to that work observing the protests, he was sent by the consulate to a business conference in the Chinese city of Shenzhen.

He didn't know it, but his life was about to change forever.

How did he disappear?
Although China has ruled Hong Kong for more than 20 years, the border between the city and the mainland still looks and feels like an international boundary.

The "one country two systems" principle - that the protesters say they are fighting to preserve - is meant to ensure that Hong Kong retains control over most of its affairs, including its borders.

But Simon Cheng was about to discover for himself the blurred edges of that legal and political framework.

Since the opening of the Hong Kong-Shenzhen high-speed rail link last year, a new border post has been placed inside West Kowloon station, in the heart of Hong Kong.

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Image captionThe West Kowloon railway station, where Mr Cheng was first detained, has also seen protests
It is deeply controversial: Hong Kong's pro-democracy movement views the presence of the Chinese police, manning the Chinese side, as an unwelcome extension of Chinese authority.

It was here they stopped Simon Cheng, returning from his business trip.

He was put on a train, transported back to Shenzhen and handed over, he says, to three plainclothes officers from China's National Security Police.

How does he describe his ordeal?
Raising his arms above his head Mr Cheng shows me how he was hung up from the chain linking the handcuffs on his wrists.

The questions focused on his involvement in the protests with the aim, he says, of forcing him to confess to fomenting unrest on behalf of the British state.

"They wanted to know what role the UK had in the Hong Kong protests - they asked what support, money and equipment we were giving to the protesters."

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Image captionThe detention centre where Mr Cheng alleges he was held
He says he was made to hold stress positions - squatting against a wall for example - for hours on end, and beaten if he moved.

"They would beat the bony parts, like my ankles... or any vulnerable part."

He claims he was subjected to sleep deprivation, with his interrogators forcing him to sing the Chinese national anthem to keep himself awake.

And, he believes, he was not the only Hongkonger undergoing such treatment.

"I saw a bunch of Hong Kong people getting arrested and interrogated. I heard someone speak in Cantonese saying: 'Raise your hands up - you raised the flags in the protest didn't you?'"

From a large pile of more than 1,000 photographs of Hong Kong protesters, he says, he was told to jot down the names and political affiliations of anyone he recognised.

"The secret police clearly stated that batches after batches of Hong Kong protesters had been caught, delivered and detained in mainland China."

Strapped to a chair and held by his hair, he says they tried to force him to open his mobile phone using the facial recognition function.

Once they'd gained access, they printed off the emails detailing the information he'd passed to the UK consulate about the protests.

"I told them I want to make it 100% clear, the UK didn't assign resources or help with the protests," he tells me.

But it was no use. Eventually, they made him record two video confessions, he says, one for the "betrayal of the motherland" and another for "soliciting prostitution".

Why was he detained?
The detention of a local employee of a foreign embassy or consulate is a relatively rare event.

The last high-profile case involving the UK was the arrest in 2009 of a number of Iranian employees at the British embassy in Tehran. They were accused of playing a significant role in that year's violent demonstrations - an accusation that finds echoes in Simon Cheng's account.

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Image captionMr Cheng, pictured during a BBC interview, says he was forced into stress positions by China's National Security Police
As in his own case, locally-employed staff usually have no diplomatic protection, potentially making them soft targets for intelligence gathering.

But Mr Cheng may have been targeted for other reasons.

He tells me he had a mainland Chinese friend who'd been arrested for taking part in the Hong Kong protests and was now on bail there.

During his business trip to Shenzhen, without the knowledge of the UK consulate, Mr Cheng had met the relatives of this friend to collect money for his living expenses.

Any mainlander known to have joined the pro-democracy demonstrations would be at risk of being placed under Chinese surveillance.

Although collecting money for a friend in legal difficulty is unlikely to constitute a crime, even in China, it could well have placed Mr Cheng under suspicion too.

I ask him what he thinks is the most likely reason for his detention - his position at the UK consulate, or his friendship with this mainland Chinese protester?

"Until now I have no idea," he replies. "But I think both factors could be part of the reason."

Why was he released?
Alongside our interview, Mr Cheng has published his own detailed account of what happened to him.

In it, he says that on the 11th day of his detention his treatment suddenly improved, a date that he says coincides with the first international media reports about his disappearance.

UK government sources say that, behind the scenes, intense diplomatic activity was already under way to try to secure his release.

Of China's only public version of events - the allegation that he was placed in 15 days administrative detention for soliciting prostitution - Mr Cheng is dismissive.

"It was a tactic for secretly and arbitrarily incarcerating me for an even longer period, without interference from third parties."

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Image captionThe detention prompted a public outcry and considerable media coverage
In China, administrative detention is a penalty that can be imposed by the police, acting with no judicial oversight. And, he suggests, the circumstances of his arrest appear unusual.

Allegations of soliciting prostitution are normally dealt with in China as a routine matter by the local police. They are far less likely to be the concern of the Chinese border authorities in West Kowloon station.

Mr Cheng's written statement also mentions that, before his arrest, he stopped in Shenzhen for a massage.

I ask him directly if he paid for sex.

"I don't want to focus on the question of whether I solicited a prostitute, because that's exactly what they want," he replies.

"So, I just want to state clearly that I did nothing regrettable to the people I cherish and love."

Whatever the reasons behind the decision to release him, he says it came with a warning.

"They stated that if I receive media interviews and speak out [about] anything other than 'soliciting prostitution' publicly, I will be taken back to mainland China from Hong Kong."

The UK's Hong Kong consulate has since reviewed, and tightened up, its guidelines for local staff travelling on work trips to the Chinese mainland.

What will Simon Cheng do now?
Simon Cheng has told the BBC that he believes it is too dangerous for him to return to Hong Kong.

Initially, he was so concerned about his safety, he refused to allow the UK government to issue a statement condemning the way he'd been treated.

He was also given little choice but to resign because the UK government now sees him as a security risk following his long interrogation at the hands of the Chinese secret police.

But UK sources say he has been provided with support, including a two-year working visa for the UK.

"Our hearts are with Simon Cheng and his family," Dominic Raab, the British Foreign Secretary, told the BBC.

"From the outset my overriding concern has been to make sure that he's taken care of properly and he gets the support that he needs."

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Image copyrightSIMON CHENG
Image captionMr Cheng believes it is too dangerous for him to go back to Hong Kong, and says he is seeking asylum
But Mr Cheng's written statement suggests he does not see the protection he's being offered as adequate and, he says, he's now seeking asylum anywhere he can feel safe.

While he faces an uncertain future, the political and diplomatic ramifications of his extraordinary testimony are likely to be significant.

The claims he makes will feed into the already frayed relations between the UK and China over the subject of Hong Kong.

China will face questions about the use of torture in its headlong search for proof of foreign interference.

The British government will face questions about whether it could have done more to protect Mr Cheng as well as its treatment of him since.

As for Hong Kong's protesters - who began their fight against an extradition bill that would have allowed suspects to be sent to China - Simon Cheng's story will confirm one thing above all else: that there is indeed much to fear from a justice system so at odds with their own.
 
都什么人啊?
 
哈哈,土工攻击不喜欢的人一定是离不开肚脐以下的地方,和这里的臭味相投者一个套路,至于此人嫖还是没嫖,已经不是很重要了,妥妥的塔西佗啊。
 
牡丹花下死,做鬼也风流。
 
哈哈,土工攻击不喜欢的人一定是离不开肚脐以下的地方,和这里的臭味相投者一个套路,至于此人嫖还是没嫖,已经不是很重要了,妥妥的塔西佗啊。
人们讲话的目的是说服对方,而不是向对方表面自己多没有下限。
此人被抓是因为嫖娼,你说“至于此人嫖还是没嫖,已经不是很重要了”,你说话有逻辑性吗?
是老共把他押去妓院嫖娼的吗?
 
前雇员,3个月前就被英国人炒鱿鱼了。现在又被从绿桶里扒拉出来,炒冷饭。
 
他的说法听上去不通,也但不是无的放矢。英美海洋法系讲究程序正义。
程序不对,辛普森杀没杀人就无从谈起。何况是这种小事


人们讲话的目的是说服对方,而不是向对方表面自己多没有下限。
此人被抓是因为嫖娼,你说“至于此人嫖还是没嫖,已经不是很重要了”,你说话有逻辑性吗?
是老共把他押去妓院嫖娼的吗?
 
坏在工作人员的执行上,工作方法也不创新,结果在国内国际社会落下“顺我者娼,逆我者被嫖娼”的口实,越来越被动:D 在特殊时期也不小心,嫖娼就按嫖娼的审讯流程来,你上酷刑,问些与嫖娼无关的问题,不是给我党添乱吗?关键是他也可能不知道什么。唉,一声叹息。
 
坏在工作人员的执行上,工作方法也不创新,结果在国内国际社会落下“顺我者娼,逆我者被嫖娼”的口实,越来越被动:D 在特殊时期也不小心,嫖娼就按嫖娼的审讯流程来,你上酷刑,问些与嫖娼无关的问题,不是给我党添乱吗?关键是他也可能不知道什么。唉,一声叹息。
问题是他给出证据了吗?假如有人报家暴,不能口说无凭。
 
问题是他给出证据了吗?假如有人报家暴,不能口说无凭。
反方关心的是,我华上酷刑了没有?上酷刑的目的是问什么?问香港的事还是嫖娼的事?
 
你要弄清楚的是酷刑的定义。这个嫖客他的酷刑定义是什么。他说大陆警察要求他两手举高的时间长了。这就是酷刑。
 
按公开报道,他的正式工作只是和贸易有关,他却在雇主的鼓励下自愿去观察政治活动并回报,还可能和抗议者有接触及金钱上的来往,这真的是自涉险境,他的雇主也要负很大责任
 
另一条重要信息: 他说在深圳看到在香港被抓的示威者了。

真的吗?香港警方抓的人可以被关到大陆去吗?
 
反方关心的是,我华上酷刑了没有?上酷刑的目的是问什么?问香港的事还是嫖娼的事?
当时很多人说他是被嫖娼,除非他被自杀,15天拘留期后可出来自辨。现在是无法否认被抓的主因,却交代出其他对英国很不利的事。除非有验伤报告,现在说逼供太迟了。
 
另一条重要信息: 他说在深圳看到在香港被抓的示威者了。

真的吗?香港警方抓的人可以被关到大陆去吗?
小粉红义和团干的又一桩蠢事。以前他说话连废气都不算,现小粉红又制造释放了一台有国际影响力的反华造谣机器。
 
另一条重要信息: 他说在深圳看到在香港被抓的示威者了。

真的吗?香港警方抓的人可以被关到大陆去吗?
他如何提供证据?看到他说大约10个时,就像是脱口编谎,起码大陆不承认,那么那10个人佐证也算,可惜没有。
 
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