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美媒:新冠病毒很可能于2019年12月就在加州传播

撰写:唐飞

2020-04-13 00:31:01

新冠病毒(COVID-19)疫情爆发以来,关于该病毒的源头一直存在较大争议。美媒称,疫情在加州存在的时间很有可能追溯到去年12月。

美国加利福尼亚州于3月19日进入紧急状态。图为洛杉矶街道上行人寥寥无几。(AP)


美国加利福尼亚州于3月19日进入紧急状态。图为洛杉矶街道上行人寥寥无几。(AP)


《洛杉矶时报》4月11日报道,加利福尼亚州圣克拉拉县的县长(County Executive)、医学博士杰夫·史密斯(Jeff Smith)在4月10日的简报会上说:“病毒一直在我们社区肆意传播,可能已经存在了相当一段时间。”

史密斯表示,美国联邦疾病控制和预防中心(CDC)、本地卫生部门以及其他机构所收集的数据显示,疫情(在本地的)存在时间“比我们最初想象的要长得多”,很有可能追溯到2019年12月。

根据约翰斯·霍普金斯大学提供的疫情走势图,全美范围内3月中旬开始出现疫情暴发。而斯坦福大学和CDC的最新研究则显示,旧金山湾区的新冠病毒是2月下旬以来迅速传播的:斯坦福大学4月7日公布的研究报告显示,其1月1日至2月26日收集旧金山湾区2,888份病人样本,阳性率为0.07%;CDC 4月3日公布的数据显示,其3月5日至14日从圣克拉拉县四个紧急护理中心抽取的226名咳嗽发烧病人的样本中,约8%被检测出新冠病毒。

史密斯10日的推测则将新冠疫情在加州地区的传播时间又向前推了一步。

至于之前为什么没有意识到这点,史密斯解释称道,当时美国正处于严重的流感季。“(新冠肺炎)症状很像流感,如果你是轻症患者,你不会意识到,甚至也没有去看医生。医生或许也不会注意,因为他们也觉得这是流感。”

史密斯称,“当卫生部门试图追踪疾病源头时,我们无法找到具体的某个接触者。这意味着病毒已经在社区中传播,而不是像CDC怀疑的那样,只在中国(传播)或只通过从中国回来的人传播。”

 
New signs suggest coronavirus was in California far earlier than anyone knew

Amir holds a photograph of his late mother, 68-year old Azar Ahrabi, who was the Bay Area’s first COVID-19 victim.

Amir holds a photograph of his late mother, 68-year old Azar Ahrabi, who was the Bay Area’s first COVID-19 victim.
(Stephen Lam / For the San Francisco Chronicle)

By PAIGE ST. JOHNSTAFF WRITER
APRIL 11, 2020 5 AM

SACRAMENTO —
A man found dead in his house in early March. A woman who fell sick in mid-February and later died.

These early COVID-19 deaths in the San Francisco Bay Area suggest that the novel coronavirus had established itself in the community long before health officials started looking for it. The lag time has had dire consequences, allowing the virus to spread unchecked before social distancing rules went into effect.

“The virus was freewheeling in our community and probably has been here for quite some time,” Dr. Jeff Smith, a physician who is the chief executive of Santa Clara County government, told county leaders in a recent briefing.

How long? A study out of Stanford suggests a dramatic viral surge in February.

But Smith on Friday said data collected by the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, local health departments and others suggest it was “a lot longer than we first believed” — most likely since “back in December.”

“This wasn’t recognized because we were having a severe flu season,” Smith said in an interview. “Symptoms are very much like the flu. If you got a mild case of COVID, you didn’t really notice. You didn’t even go to the doctor. The doctor maybe didn’t even do it because they presumed it was the flu.”

Just as New York has strong ties to travelers from Europe, who are believed to have brought the coronavirus there from Italy, the Bay Area is a natural hub for those traveling to and from China. Santa Clara County had its first two cases of COVID-19 almost a week before federal approval of emergency testing for the disease Feb. 4. Both were in travelers returning from Wuhan, China, where the virus was rampant.

In January and most of February, there was little, if any, community testing in California.

The CDC provided testing materials to only some health departments, with restrictions that confined testing and thus the tracking of the novel coronavirus to those who were sick or exposed to someone already known to have COVID-19. The federal agency’s focus was on cruise ships, with Princess Cruises’ Diamond Princess carrying the largest known cluster of COVID-19 cases outside of China. The first passenger tested positive for COVID-19 five days after the ship’s Jan. 20 departure from Japan. Eventually, 712 passengers and crew tested positive, and nine of them died.

COVID-19 did not reappear in the Bay Area until Feb. 27, when doctors finally decided to test a hospitalized woman who had been ill for weeks. She became the region’s first case of community-spread coronavirus.

But from there, almost every positive test pointed toward local spread. “When public health [officials] tried to track down the start of the disease … we weren’t able to find, specifically, a contact,” Smith told county supervisors. “That means the virus is in the community already — not, as was suspected by the CDC, as only in China and being spread from contact with China.”

Researchers still unsure how long the virus lurked are now turning to blood banks and other repositories to see if lingering antibodies can show them what was missed. A study funded by the National Institutes of Health is looking for virus antibodies in samples from blood banks in Los Angeles, San Francisco and four other cities across the country.

Santa Clara County’s first community-spread case also became its first announced COVID-19 death.

Azar Ahrabi, 68, died March 9, the second COVID-19 fatality in California, five days after the first. For the first few weeks, the urban county that sits at the heart of Silicon Valley, home to Stanford University and tech giants Apple and Google, led California in coronavirus deaths.


Health investigators said they could find no source of Ahrabi’s infection. Her family members said she stayed mostly at home, taking care of her mother. She seldom drove, and she walked to a local grocery store to shop. But she and her mother lived in a Santa Clara apartment complex in a neighborhood with a high density of international residents.

Relatives said she showed signs of illness in mid-February. For more than a week, they gave only a passing thought that her fever and sudden fatigue might be tied to the horrifying news out of China.

Ahrabi’s son, Amir, said that when his mother checked into a medical clinic Feb. 20 and was diagnosed with a nonspecific pneumonia, she was prescribed antibiotics and sent home. The next day, her doctor admitted her to the intensive care unit.

Amir said he asked that she be tested for COVID-19, and doctors told him the county health department would not approve the test. She met none of the qualifying criteria.

New studies out of Stanford University and the CDC, taken together, suggest that the novel coronavirus spread quickly through the Bay Area.

Stanford’s virology lab, looking retroactively at some 2,800 patient samples collected since January, did not find the first COVID-19 cases until late February — from two patients who were tested Feb. 21 and Feb. 23. Neither of those patients, the researchers note in a letter published by the Journal of the American Medical Assn., would have met existing criteria for COVID-19 testing.

The California Department of Public Health and the CDC did not begin community surveillance for COVID-19 in Santa Clara County until March 5. Samples were collected from 226 coughing, feverish patients who visited four urgent care centers; 1 in 4 turned out to have the flu. The state tested samples from a subset of 79 non-flu patients. Nine of them had COVID-19.

The result suggested that 8% of people walking into the urgent care centers carried the novel coronavirus, an infection rate that mirrored the 5% infection rate at a Los Angeles medical center, the CDC said in a report published Friday.

It is possible the coronavirus spread widely through the Bay Area in just two weeks, said Dr. Benjamin Pinsky, the pathologist who led the Stanford study. He said Stanford’s virology clinic saw a similar increase in cases once it was cleared by the federal government to begin running its own COVID-19 tests.

Pinsky said the virtual invisibility of COVID-19 in February followed by an 8% infection rate two weeks later is not “incompatible.... I think that all kind of fits together.”

Santa Clara County acted on the CDC’s local sampling immediately. Two days after the project ended, it and five other Bay Area counties ordered residents to stay home and schools and nonessential businesses to close. Azar Ahrabi by then was dead.

Amir said he sees his mother as on the cruel side of history, falling ill before Californians were ready to look for the virus already in their presence. For his mother, that realization came too late.

The first confirmed COVID-19 death in California was March 4 in Placer County, claiming the life of a 71-year-old man who had recently taken a Mexican cruise. A ship medical officer told The Times the man had developed symptoms during the Feb. 11-21 voyage, suggesting he brought the virus on board from California.

Two days later, March 6, San Jose authorities found a 70-year-old man dead in his home. The Santa Clara County medical examiner determined the man tested positive for COVID-19, according to records provided to The Times. The discovery of this second death was never publicly announced, and county health officials did not answer questions about the case.

Research by The Times showed he lived less than four miles from Azar Ahrabi, essentially off the same main road with an interstate between them.

The diagnosis of Ahrabi appeared to the family to make little difference in her steady decline. She was put into an induced coma and intubated with a ventilator. Family members were not allowed to see her. The county put them in quarantine and served a legal order to back that up.

Physicians threw a slew of treatments at Ahrabi — including offering a controversial synthetic quinine used to treat malaria but using another experimental treatment, Remdesivir. But her liver failed, and her body rejected dialysis treatment. The ventilator could not deliver enough oxygen through her occluded lungs, and the hospital did not have a machine to infuse oxygen directly into her blood.

“She was essentially tested a week and a half after her first symptoms, and some of the treatments that were proposed and [that] we went with could have been way more effective if we — they — put them in place days ago,” Amir said.

Amir was ordered by Santa Clara County to go into quarantine the day his mother’s test result came back, and he never saw her alive again.

As she died, he stayed in his apartment with his grandmother, caring for the elderly woman without telling her the fate of her daughter. Only after the quarantine order was lifted, when the whole family could again gather, did they tell her Azar Ahrabi had died.

Iranian tradition dictated that the family wash her body and prepare it to eventually return to the earth, Amir said. Instead, the county health department required that she be sealed into a plastic bag for interment.

Times staff writer Melody Petersen contributed to this report.

 
美国一医生1月被诊断为流感 如今却获新冠病毒抗体

撰写:唐飞

2020-04-04 23:56:00



新型冠状病毒(COVID-19)在全球迅速蔓延,而关于该病毒的起源问题仍存在较大争议。近日,一名美国医生称自己获得了新冠病毒抗体,而他曾于1月份被诊断为普通流感。

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新冠病毒的起源仍未有定论,特朗普此前多次将此病毒称为“中国病毒”。(AP)

美国儿科急诊领域专家彼得(Peter Antevy)4月3日在推特(Twitter)上表示,自己在1月得了“流感”,但这次检测中,他查出了新冠抗体:“一月份的时候,我病得很重(像流感一样,但更严重),两天没睡,几乎要住进急诊室。今天我检查了我的新冠病毒抗体状况……IgG+(指过去感染过)。心情复杂……明天会再测一次。”

《纽约时报》4月2日报道,美国食品药品监督管理局(FDA)批准了一种新冠病毒抗体检测方法。这种检测旨在测试病人是否在感染病毒后产生了抗体。测试在大约15分钟内就能得出结果。

如果这位美国医生真的已经获得了新冠病毒抗体,那么这起案例是否能够成为美国此前将新冠肺炎确诊为流感的又一有力佐证呢?值得一提的是,美国2019年曾有1,300万人感染流感,至少6,000人死亡。

中国外交部发言人赵立坚3月曾在推特上称,“美国疾病控制与预防中心(CDC)主任罗伯特·雷德菲尔德(Robert Redfield)周三在众议院监督委员会承认,一些似乎死于流感的美国人在死后的诊断中被检测出新型#冠状病毒呈阳性。”

赵立坚称, “美国疾控中心主任被抓了个现行。零号病人是什么时候在美国出现的?有多少人被感染?医院的名字是什么?可能是美军把疫情带到了武汉。美国要透明!要公开数据!美国欠我们一个解释!”【相关阅读:质疑病毒外泄 美国民众要求白宫公布化武基地关闭原因

此外,中国外交部发言人华春莹也在推特上称,“罗伯特·雷德菲尔德博士透露:之前在美国诊断为流感的一些病例,事实上患的是新冠肺炎。将新冠病毒称作‘中国新冠病毒’,绝对是错误的、不恰当的。”

 
我没有立场,只希望一个解释:如果当时就有新冠,为什么没有在本地和其它地区引起大流行?为什么社会没有停摆?为什么没有压垮医疗资源?
纯属好奇。
 
最后编辑:
网上有一种解释,加州新冠类型没有B型(武汉主要B型)症状严重,病人就当流感治了,显然,可信度无从考证,只能是科学家在广泛收集数据基础上分析给出答案
 
有人提了个很简单合理的要求,就是复查一下美国去年底流感死亡病例相关情况,美国是坚决不同意。病毒有变异的情况,只有科学的方法分析,才能确定。美国现在的态度就是拼命泼脏水给中国,就算以后真相能找出来,也达到美国现在的目的了。
 
我没有立场

很多文章就是因为有立场,几乎要下100%的结论(包括科学界的文章,大牌学者的论文),但确实又没有确切证据。
 
我没有立场,只希望一个解释:如果当时就有新冠,为什么没有在本地和其它地区引起大流行?为什么社会没有停摆?
纯属好奇。
纽约州测试了两个星期就发现二十几万人确诊,40%的阳性率,实际感染人数可能远超百万。试问,这个巨大的数量需要多长时间的积累?
且不说世界范围,中国的爆发源头肯定是在武汉,而且武汉11月到12月似乎就有病例了。而三个月的时间,一直到二月底也才几万人,封城三周的时候基本上全部控制住了。
试想一下武汉刚一爆发,美国就对中国进行了封锁。病毒要在一月底零星的传往欧洲,再二次传往美国。这段时间根本不可能让美国产生数以百万计的的感染。(因为武汉一地两三个月才传染了几万人,也没造成全国大流行)
至于之前没有爆发的原因,有可能一方面病毒的突变,产生许多新的特性。另一方面就是时间上病毒的流行跟流感的流行一样有季节因素在里面,可能入冬之前传染性要低很多。
这个问题其实老美很容易就能证实,那就是研究去年年底的病例,可是现在被严厉禁止。而且前所未有的将其高度政治化。
老百姓想知道源头到底在哪的诉求,其实原因绝对不会像欧美某些脑残那样是为了索赔或者攻击美国政府甚至发动战争。而是被一些美国无耻政客和反华分子用最下流得方式攻击而产生的愤怒。如果在新冠问题上各国人民都同心协力,而不是落井下石。谁会真的那么在乎源头到底在哪呢?
 
床总大嘴一喷,肥口牛丝,问题解决鸟!
 
New signs suggest coronavirus was in California far earlier than anyone knew

Amir holds a photograph of his late mother, 68-year old Azar Ahrabi, who was the Bay Area’s first COVID-19 victim.

Amir holds a photograph of his late mother, 68-year old Azar Ahrabi, who was the Bay Area’s first COVID-19 victim.
(Stephen Lam / For the San Francisco Chronicle)

By PAIGE ST. JOHNSTAFF WRITER
APRIL 11, 2020 5 AM

SACRAMENTO —
A man found dead in his house in early March. A woman who fell sick in mid-February and later died.

These early COVID-19 deaths in the San Francisco Bay Area suggest that the novel coronavirus had established itself in the community long before health officials started looking for it. The lag time has had dire consequences, allowing the virus to spread unchecked before social distancing rules went into effect.

“The virus was freewheeling in our community and probably has been here for quite some time,” Dr. Jeff Smith, a physician who is the chief executive of Santa Clara County government, told county leaders in a recent briefing.

How long? A study out of Stanford suggests a dramatic viral surge in February.

But Smith on Friday said data collected by the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, local health departments and others suggest it was “a lot longer than we first believed” — most likely since “back in December.”

“This wasn’t recognized because we were having a severe flu season,” Smith said in an interview. “Symptoms are very much like the flu. If you got a mild case of COVID, you didn’t really notice. You didn’t even go to the doctor. The doctor maybe didn’t even do it because they presumed it was the flu.”

Just as New York has strong ties to travelers from Europe, who are believed to have brought the coronavirus there from Italy, the Bay Area is a natural hub for those traveling to and from China. Santa Clara County had its first two cases of COVID-19 almost a week before federal approval of emergency testing for the disease Feb. 4. Both were in travelers returning from Wuhan, China, where the virus was rampant.

In January and most of February, there was little, if any, community testing in California.

The CDC provided testing materials to only some health departments, with restrictions that confined testing and thus the tracking of the novel coronavirus to those who were sick or exposed to someone already known to have COVID-19. The federal agency’s focus was on cruise ships, with Princess Cruises’ Diamond Princess carrying the largest known cluster of COVID-19 cases outside of China. The first passenger tested positive for COVID-19 five days after the ship’s Jan. 20 departure from Japan. Eventually, 712 passengers and crew tested positive, and nine of them died.

COVID-19 did not reappear in the Bay Area until Feb. 27, when doctors finally decided to test a hospitalized woman who had been ill for weeks. She became the region’s first case of community-spread coronavirus.

But from there, almost every positive test pointed toward local spread. “When public health [officials] tried to track down the start of the disease … we weren’t able to find, specifically, a contact,” Smith told county supervisors. “That means the virus is in the community already — not, as was suspected by the CDC, as only in China and being spread from contact with China.”

Researchers still unsure how long the virus lurked are now turning to blood banks and other repositories to see if lingering antibodies can show them what was missed. A study funded by the National Institutes of Health is looking for virus antibodies in samples from blood banks in Los Angeles, San Francisco and four other cities across the country.

Santa Clara County’s first community-spread case also became its first announced COVID-19 death.

Azar Ahrabi, 68, died March 9, the second COVID-19 fatality in California, five days after the first. For the first few weeks, the urban county that sits at the heart of Silicon Valley, home to Stanford University and tech giants Apple and Google, led California in coronavirus deaths.


Health investigators said they could find no source of Ahrabi’s infection. Her family members said she stayed mostly at home, taking care of her mother. She seldom drove, and she walked to a local grocery store to shop. But she and her mother lived in a Santa Clara apartment complex in a neighborhood with a high density of international residents.

Relatives said she showed signs of illness in mid-February. For more than a week, they gave only a passing thought that her fever and sudden fatigue might be tied to the horrifying news out of China.

Ahrabi’s son, Amir, said that when his mother checked into a medical clinic Feb. 20 and was diagnosed with a nonspecific pneumonia, she was prescribed antibiotics and sent home. The next day, her doctor admitted her to the intensive care unit.

Amir said he asked that she be tested for COVID-19, and doctors told him the county health department would not approve the test. She met none of the qualifying criteria.

New studies out of Stanford University and the CDC, taken together, suggest that the novel coronavirus spread quickly through the Bay Area.

Stanford’s virology lab, looking retroactively at some 2,800 patient samples collected since January, did not find the first COVID-19 cases until late February — from two patients who were tested Feb. 21 and Feb. 23. Neither of those patients, the researchers note in a letter published by the Journal of the American Medical Assn., would have met existing criteria for COVID-19 testing.

The California Department of Public Health and the CDC did not begin community surveillance for COVID-19 in Santa Clara County until March 5. Samples were collected from 226 coughing, feverish patients who visited four urgent care centers; 1 in 4 turned out to have the flu. The state tested samples from a subset of 79 non-flu patients. Nine of them had COVID-19.

The result suggested that 8% of people walking into the urgent care centers carried the novel coronavirus, an infection rate that mirrored the 5% infection rate at a Los Angeles medical center, the CDC said in a report published Friday.

It is possible the coronavirus spread widely through the Bay Area in just two weeks, said Dr. Benjamin Pinsky, the pathologist who led the Stanford study. He said Stanford’s virology clinic saw a similar increase in cases once it was cleared by the federal government to begin running its own COVID-19 tests.

Pinsky said the virtual invisibility of COVID-19 in February followed by an 8% infection rate two weeks later is not “incompatible.... I think that all kind of fits together.”

Santa Clara County acted on the CDC’s local sampling immediately. Two days after the project ended, it and five other Bay Area counties ordered residents to stay home and schools and nonessential businesses to close. Azar Ahrabi by then was dead.

Amir said he sees his mother as on the cruel side of history, falling ill before Californians were ready to look for the virus already in their presence. For his mother, that realization came too late.

The first confirmed COVID-19 death in California was March 4 in Placer County, claiming the life of a 71-year-old man who had recently taken a Mexican cruise. A ship medical officer told The Times the man had developed symptoms during the Feb. 11-21 voyage, suggesting he brought the virus on board from California.

Two days later, March 6, San Jose authorities found a 70-year-old man dead in his home. The Santa Clara County medical examiner determined the man tested positive for COVID-19, according to records provided to The Times. The discovery of this second death was never publicly announced, and county health officials did not answer questions about the case.

Research by The Times showed he lived less than four miles from Azar Ahrabi, essentially off the same main road with an interstate between them.

The diagnosis of Ahrabi appeared to the family to make little difference in her steady decline. She was put into an induced coma and intubated with a ventilator. Family members were not allowed to see her. The county put them in quarantine and served a legal order to back that up.

Physicians threw a slew of treatments at Ahrabi — including offering a controversial synthetic quinine used to treat malaria but using another experimental treatment, Remdesivir. But her liver failed, and her body rejected dialysis treatment. The ventilator could not deliver enough oxygen through her occluded lungs, and the hospital did not have a machine to infuse oxygen directly into her blood.

“She was essentially tested a week and a half after her first symptoms, and some of the treatments that were proposed and [that] we went with could have been way more effective if we — they — put them in place days ago,” Amir said.

Amir was ordered by Santa Clara County to go into quarantine the day his mother’s test result came back, and he never saw her alive again.

As she died, he stayed in his apartment with his grandmother, caring for the elderly woman without telling her the fate of her daughter. Only after the quarantine order was lifted, when the whole family could again gather, did they tell her Azar Ahrabi had died.

Iranian tradition dictated that the family wash her body and prepare it to eventually return to the earth, Amir said. Instead, the county health department required that she be sealed into a plastic bag for interment.

Times staff writer Melody Petersen contributed to this report.

继续挖。谁是0 号病人。不需 0 号,只要挖到 11 月前有新冠患者,不论死活。就可以起诉美国隐瞒疫情。要求赔偿全世界
几天前,有个州测试了部分去年“流感”痊愈者,有几十个有新冠抗体,也该继续追查
 
最后编辑:
继续挖。谁是0 号病人。不需 0 号,只要挖到 11 月前有新冠患者,不论死活。就可以起诉美国隐瞒疫情。要求赔偿全世界
几天前,有个州测试的去年几十个“流感”痊愈者有新冠抗体,也该继续追查
美国要是被发现早就有新冠病毒,这才是真正意义上的故意隐瞒,这个需要相关国际法庭按战争罪犯审判。
中国的那种情况根本就是很正常的谈不上隐瞒。我村到现在都不知道到底有多少病例了,这也不能算隐瞒,只是条件所限。
 
纽约州测试了两个星期就发现二十几万人确诊,40%的阳性率,实际感染人数可能远超百万。试问,这个巨大的数量需要多长时间的积累?
且不说世界范围,中国的爆发源头肯定是在武汉,而且武汉11月到12月似乎就有病例了。而三个月的时间,一直到二月底也才几万人,封城三周的时候基本上全部控制住了。
试想一下武汉刚一爆发,美国就对中国进行了封锁。病毒要在一月底零星的传往欧洲,再二次传往美国。这段时间根本不可能让美国产生数以百万计的的感染。(因为武汉一地两三个月才传染了几万人,也没造成全国大流行)
至于之前没有爆发的原因,有可能一方面病毒的突变,产生许多新的特性。另一方面就是时间上病毒的流行跟流感的流行一样有季节因素在里面,可能入冬之前传染性要低很多。
这个问题其实老美很容易就能证实,那就是研究去年年底的病例,可是现在被严厉禁止。而且前所未有的将其高度政治化。
老百姓想知道源头到底在哪的诉求,其实原因绝对不会像欧美某些脑残那样是为了索赔或者攻击美国政府甚至发动战争。而是被一些美国无耻政客和反华分子用最下流得方式攻击而产生的愤怒。如果在新冠问题上各国人民都同心协力,而不是落井下石。谁会真的那么在乎源头到底在哪呢?
难为你码字这么多,谢谢。
你说的这一切,估计得到论证和认可的几率不高。当然那么多科学家也不是吃素的。希望最会一切大白于天下。
 
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