新冠病毒不是实验室制造的。闫博士的“文件”受到各地科学家的广泛批评,This “document” has been widely criticized by scientists everywhere

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This document has been widely criticized by scientists everywhere
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So nothing to do with science infectious disease etc.


SARS-CoV-2 was not made in a lab(30分钟视频)

In this excerpt from TWiV 664, Vincent, Rich, Kathy and Brianne discuss why a recent document claiming that SARS-CoV-2 was created in a lab is wrong.
 
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这几位病毒学专家是长期在油管上做讲座,看不出任何被中共,或者左派收买的迹象。
 
CFC 的乌烟瘴气更甚于油管,秉持科学界的绝大多数研究者的联署见解来费时间辟谣还要被人污蔑,阎丽梦说辞的信众有毒
宣传科学界的共识、评议不靠谱的别有用心的伪科学,不应该被上纲上线扣帽子为亲共立场,不应该被迫害
 
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全世界都憋着清算中工,阎女士突然以骗子的姿态跳出来说是中工干的,玩啥呢?障眼法?
 
福奇长期从事传染病防疫工作,也看不出任何被中共,或者左派收买的迹象


你用常识想想,为什么学界迟迟没搭理她?因为她级别太太低。 即使在中国,以闫女士的浅薄的资历和短暂工作经验,她也啥都不是

终于有人烦了说几句,就是被收买?
 
1. 几乎很难找出支持阎丽梦说法的已经有一定地位的病毒学家 (能找出个例有其它荒腔走板的污点,功成名就后没有少说其它胡话被证伪),而有明确认为基于 ”类SARS冠状病毒“的任何一种、通过现有技术改造能得到新冠病毒的概率微乎其微 这样的同行评议期刊的联署文章。倒也不是专门批阎丽梦的,她还不够格。既然有了高 impact factor 期刊的联署文章,也就无需再三鞭尸。

2. 不妨看看是谁在背后供养着阎丽梦,以及她今后是否能回到学术研究被哪个洁身自好的科学团队接纳。

专门研究蝙蝠冠状病毒尤其是”类SARS冠状病毒“ 的 EcoHealth Alliance 被政府授意 NIH 砍掉了,它是最有可能逐渐寻找出新冠病毒自然宿主和携带者的研究团队。

那些所谓科学界的绝大多数研究者是你的定义吧?举一些有姓名的例子,不要利用中文的笼统来模糊概念。

再说,科学界的认识都是统一的吗?如果都是一个意见,何来新科技的发展?
 
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首次测序完成后公布在1月10日前后,研究者就知道它属于 ”类SARS冠状病毒“,认为它可能造成类似SARS、MERS疫情的人不少,有这样的认识很正常。她先射箭后画靶留下记录是可以做到的。在认为需要提高警惕的人里面有这么一个和丈夫、老板失和跑路的人,并不能因为别有用心的人捧她而就此忽视她讲的在技术上做不到。你可以在 fundraising 网站号召信徒募钱让她用其它 ”类SARS冠状病毒“ 来改造试试,差别还是挺大的,若干次基因编辑或者定向诱导重复试几亿次也不太可能恰好得到新冠与其它 ”类SARS冠状病毒“ 有差异的功能部分。

如果不是疫情需要警惕,需要提高警惕,需要采取有效措施,过1-2年你就可以知道她说的是不是正确的。

何况她从1月19日就利用路德社这个自媒体向全世界发出了警告,这是世界上第一个明确指出新冠病毒会传染并且造成大规模疫情的警告。其他所谓科学家或者病毒学家能够有她的1%的作用吗?到现在,9个月了,事实证明她的预测模型是正确的。

从这个角度来说,她一定需要其他科学家来认可吗?事实就在那里,疫情的发展就在那里。
 
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如果不是疫情需要警惕,需要提高警惕,需要采取有效措施,过1-2年你就可以知道她说的是不是正确的。

何况她从1月19日就利用路德社这个自媒体向全世界发出了警告,这是世界上第一个明确指出新冠病毒会传染并且造成大规模疫情的警告。其他所谓科学家或者病毒学家能够有她的1%的作用吗?到现在,9个月了,事实证明她的预测模型是正确的。

从这个角度来说,她一定需要其他科学家来认可吗?事实就在那里,疫情的发展就在那里。


路德没说。 不然为何三月份全世界还拼命征集口罩寄中国呢? 你不是也没听说吗。而加拿大也没得救呀
科学,特别是病毒等相关研究成果,当然要同行的认可呀,不然呢? 不要被她论文迷倒,上面那个穿紫色衣服的可是大牛。 你去看看那四人对她论文的评价: 标题就没达标,文法错误不算,连引用文章也没经过peer review,等等。 至于内容和数据,更不堪,,,
 
西方科学家有一个优点,一般不会因为政治立场在科学上昧着良心胡说八道

闫博士以后可能很难在西方学术研究机构找到工作了,大概只能等螺背儿奖了
 
Another ‘Unfounded’ Study on Origins of Virus Spreads Online
By Katherine J. Wu

An overwhelming body of evidence continues to affirm that the coronavirus almost certainly made its hop into humans from an animal source — as many, many other deadly viruses are known to do.

But since the early days of the pandemic, experts have had to fight to combat misinformed rumors that the coronavirus emerged from a lab as part of a sinister scientific project.

Last week, yet another piece of unfounded and misleading prose entered the fray: a study, posted online but not published in a peer-reviewed scientific journal, contending that the virus is artificial and an “unrestricted bio-weapon” released by Chinese researchers.

The manuscript also baselessly denounced several parties, including policymakers, scientific journals and even individual researchers, for censoring and criticizing the lab-made hypothesis, accusing them of deliberate obfuscation of fact and “colluding” with the Chinese Communist Party.

Though scientists immediately condemned the study as disreputable and dangerous, it rapidly commanded a storm of social media attention, garnering more than 14,000 likes on Twitter and more than 12,000 retweets and quote-tweets within days of its posting. Shared on Facebook, Twitter and Reddit, it reached millions of users, and was covered in at least a dozen articles written in several languages.

The paper’s findings, however, have no basis in science.

“It’s ridiculous and unfounded,” said Angela Rasmussen, a virologist at Columbia University who criticized the study on Twitter the day it was released. “It’s masquerading as scientific evidence, but really it’s just a dumpster fire.”

The publication is the second in a series from a team led by Li-Meng Yan, a Chinese scientist who released an initial paper on Sept. 14, also not peer-reviewed, asserting that the coronavirus was synthetic. Dr. Yan’s background is a little murky. She left her position as a postdoctoral research fellow at Hong Kong University for undisclosed reasons some time ago, according to a July statement from the institution, and fled to the United States. Both papers list Dr. Yan and her co-authors as affiliated with the Rule of Law Society, a nonprofit whose founders include Steve Bannon, a former White House chief strategist, who has since been charged in an unrelated case of fraud.

“That alone should give people pause,” Dr. Rasmussen said of the team’s connection to Mr. Bannon’s nonprofit.

Dr. Yan and her colleagues did not respond to a request for comment.

Their original paper — known as “the Yan report” — was also seized upon by thousands online and reported on in The New York Post, even though experts rapidly debunked its findings. Researchers called it unscientific and said it ignored the wealth of data pointing to the virus’s natural origins.

Close relatives of the new coronavirus exist in bats. The virus may have moved directly into people from bats, or first jumped into another animal, such as a pangolin, before transitioning into humans. Both scenarios have played out before with other pathogens.

“We have a very good picture of how a virus of this kind could circulate and spill over into human beings,” said Brandon Ogbunu, a disease ecologist at Yale University.

It may take quite some time to pinpoint exactly which animals harbored the virus along this chain of transmission, if scientists ever do at all — inevitably leaving some parts of the virus’s origin story ambiguous. Like many other conspiracy theories, the lab-made hypothesis “exploits the open questions in an ongoing investigation,” Dr. Ogbunu said.

But there is no evidence so far to support a synthetic source for the virus.

Dr. Yan’s Twitter account was suspended in September 2020 for pushing coronavirus disinformation. She shared the “second Yan report” from a second Twitter account, which has gained more than 34,000 followers.

Together, the papers written by Dr. Yan and her colleagues lay out what they identified as abnormalities in the genome sequence of the coronavirus. They suggested that those unusual features indicated that the virus’s genome had been purposefully spliced together and modified, using the genetic material from other viruses — a sort of Frankenstein’s monster pathogen, Dr. Yan told Fox News in September. The cousins of the coronavirus that had been identified in bats, they said, were also fake, human-made constructions, thus supposedly quashing the natural origin hypothesis.

The authors also contended that the coronavirus’s genome had been manipulated by scientists to enhance the virus’s ability to infect human cells and cause disease.

But outside experts have found no validity in either Yan report. The first was “full of contradictory statements and unsound interpretations” of genetic data from viruses, said Kishana Taylor, a virologist at Carnegie Mellon University.

And the second Yan report “was even more unhinged than the first,” said Gigi Kwik Gronvall, a senior scholar at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security and an author of a response debunking the original Yan report.

The supposedly strange features found in the genomes of the coronavirus and its natural relatives aren’t actually red flags at all, Dr. Ogbunu said. Viruses frequently move between animal hosts, changing their genetic material along the way — sometimes even swapping hunks of their genomes with other viruses. And many of the purported abnormalities in the coronavirus are found in other virus genomes.

The notion that the coronavirus was “designed” to be dangerous is also “just nonsense,” Dr. Ogbunu said. Scientists don’t know enough about viruses to predict which mutations would increase their lethality, let alone engineer these changes into new pathogens in the lab.

Building the coronavirus from such a mishmash of genetic templates, as described by Dr. Yan and her colleagues, would also raise herculean logistical hurdles for even the most dogged scientists. Part of this process would require researchers to laboriously tinker with thousands of individual letters in the alphabet soup that is a virus’s genome — an absurdly inefficient scientific strategy, Dr. Rasmussen said.

“Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence,” Dr. Rasmussen said. “And this is not that.”
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Katherine J. Wu is a reporter covering science and health. She holds a Ph.D. in microbiology and immunobiology from Harvard University. @KatherineJWu

 
这几位闲得无聊?值得花时间批那么个傻逼?
这婊子我都懒得骂牠
 
Another ‘Unfounded’ Study on Origins of Virus Spreads Online
By Katherine J. Wu

An overwhelming body of evidence continues to affirm that the coronavirus almost certainly made its hop into humans from an animal source — as many, many other deadly viruses are known to do.

But since the early days of the pandemic, experts have had to fight to combat misinformed rumors that the coronavirus emerged from a lab as part of a sinister scientific project.

Last week, yet another piece of unfounded and misleading prose entered the fray: a study, posted online but not published in a peer-reviewed scientific journal, contending that the virus is artificial and an “unrestricted bio-weapon” released by Chinese researchers.

The manuscript also baselessly denounced several parties, including policymakers, scientific journals and even individual researchers, for censoring and criticizing the lab-made hypothesis, accusing them of deliberate obfuscation of fact and “colluding” with the Chinese Communist Party.

Though scientists immediately condemned the study as disreputable and dangerous, it rapidly commanded a storm of social media attention, garnering more than 14,000 likes on Twitter and more than 12,000 retweets and quote-tweets within days of its posting. Shared on Facebook, Twitter and Reddit, it reached millions of users, and was covered in at least a dozen articles written in several languages.

The paper’s findings, however, have no basis in science.

“It’s ridiculous and unfounded,” said Angela Rasmussen, a virologist at Columbia University who criticized the study on Twitter the day it was released. “It’s masquerading as scientific evidence, but really it’s just a dumpster fire.”

The publication is the second in a series from a team led by Li-Meng Yan, a Chinese scientist who released an initial paper on Sept. 14, also not peer-reviewed, asserting that the coronavirus was synthetic. Dr. Yan’s background is a little murky. She left her position as a postdoctoral research fellow at Hong Kong University for undisclosed reasons some time ago, according to a July statement from the institution, and fled to the United States. Both papers list Dr. Yan and her co-authors as affiliated with the Rule of Law Society, a nonprofit whose founders include Steve Bannon, a former White House chief strategist, who has since been charged in an unrelated case of fraud.

“That alone should give people pause,” Dr. Rasmussen said of the team’s connection to Mr. Bannon’s nonprofit.

Dr. Yan and her colleagues did not respond to a request for comment.

Their original paper — known as “the Yan report” — was also seized upon by thousands online and reported on in The New York Post, even though experts rapidly debunked its findings. Researchers called it unscientific and said it ignored the wealth of data pointing to the virus’s natural origins.

Close relatives of the new coronavirus exist in bats. The virus may have moved directly into people from bats, or first jumped into another animal, such as a pangolin, before transitioning into humans. Both scenarios have played out before with other pathogens.

“We have a very good picture of how a virus of this kind could circulate and spill over into human beings,” said Brandon Ogbunu, a disease ecologist at Yale University.

It may take quite some time to pinpoint exactly which animals harbored the virus along this chain of transmission, if scientists ever do at all — inevitably leaving some parts of the virus’s origin story ambiguous. Like many other conspiracy theories, the lab-made hypothesis “exploits the open questions in an ongoing investigation,” Dr. Ogbunu said.

But there is no evidence so far to support a synthetic source for the virus.

Dr. Yan’s Twitter account was suspended in September 2020 for pushing coronavirus disinformation. She shared the “second Yan report” from a second Twitter account, which has gained more than 34,000 followers.

Together, the papers written by Dr. Yan and her colleagues lay out what they identified as abnormalities in the genome sequence of the coronavirus. They suggested that those unusual features indicated that the virus’s genome had been purposefully spliced together and modified, using the genetic material from other viruses — a sort of Frankenstein’s monster pathogen, Dr. Yan told Fox News in September. The cousins of the coronavirus that had been identified in bats, they said, were also fake, human-made constructions, thus supposedly quashing the natural origin hypothesis.

The authors also contended that the coronavirus’s genome had been manipulated by scientists to enhance the virus’s ability to infect human cells and cause disease.

But outside experts have found no validity in either Yan report. The first was “full of contradictory statements and unsound interpretations” of genetic data from viruses, said Kishana Taylor, a virologist at Carnegie Mellon University.

And the second Yan report “was even more unhinged than the first,” said Gigi Kwik Gronvall, a senior scholar at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security and an author of a response debunking the original Yan report.

The supposedly strange features found in the genomes of the coronavirus and its natural relatives aren’t actually red flags at all, Dr. Ogbunu said. Viruses frequently move between animal hosts, changing their genetic material along the way — sometimes even swapping hunks of their genomes with other viruses. And many of the purported abnormalities in the coronavirus are found in other virus genomes.

The notion that the coronavirus was “designed” to be dangerous is also “just nonsense,” Dr. Ogbunu said. Scientists don’t know enough about viruses to predict which mutations would increase their lethality, let alone engineer these changes into new pathogens in the lab.

Building the coronavirus from such a mishmash of genetic templates, as described by Dr. Yan and her colleagues, would also raise herculean logistical hurdles for even the most dogged scientists. Part of this process would require researchers to laboriously tinker with thousands of individual letters in the alphabet soup that is a virus’s genome — an absurdly inefficient scientific strategy, Dr. Rasmussen said.

“Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence,” Dr. Rasmussen said. “And this is not that.”
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Katherine J. Wu is a reporter covering science and health. She holds a Ph.D. in microbiology and immunobiology from Harvard University. @KatherineJWu

这是中文版,昨天还没有。

 
除了闫丽梦博士提出警告,全世界有谁,在1月19日以前,就说这个病毒可能会造成大蔓延,世界瘟疫?

那些所谓病毒学家,科学家,卫生学家,防疫专家,是不是应该脸红?是否对这个警告有所重视,采取任何措施来预防蔓延?

当然,没有脸的就不说了

再早就是 比尔盖茨了,他老人家从几年前开始就一直说。大家都说他从 Windows 95 以来就和病毒展开斗争了

 
除了闫丽梦博士提出警告,全世界有谁,在1月19日以前,就说这个病毒可能会造成大蔓延,世界瘟疫?

那些所谓病毒学家,科学家,卫生学家,防疫专家,是不是应该脸红?是否对这个警告有所重视,采取任何措施来预防蔓延?

当然,没有脸的就不说了
这么说闫博士应该获得螺背儿警告奖?

不过所谓闫博士1月19号就预知未来的说法没有任何知名媒体,科学期刊,政府机构,国际团体。。。证实啊,自媒体不算
 
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