有些药既然杀死了疫苗那一定能杀死病毒。提到了类风湿关节炎,那一定是羟氯喹了

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感觉阴毛好大,就因为泄露天机才把特朗普总统搞掉的吧!拜登有点邪恶啊
 
这个好,灭活疫苗制造水平不够没有死,再杀一次:evil:
灭活也有活的成分,否则怎么伪装成病毒刺激人体免疫系统?
 
这个好,灭活疫苗制造水平不够没有死,再杀一次:evil:
还真想起来了,以前圈贴过一个,上世纪80年代非洲发生过,打过狂犬疫苗的,被疯狗咬伤后,疫苗没有发挥应有的作用,后来经过一些控制试验认为是因为病人服用过抗疟疾的氯喹,致使疫苗失效。

说明氯喹只杀疫苗,可没杀疯狗病毒。
 
说这话的是得感冒喝农药的狠人吧
我等凡夫俗子还是算了
 
还真想起来了,以前圈贴过一个,上世纪80年代非洲发生过,打过狂犬疫苗的,被疯狗咬伤后,疫苗没有发挥应有的作用,后来经过一些控制试验认为是因为病人服用过抗疟疾的氯喹,致使疫苗失效。

说明氯喹只杀疫苗,可没杀疯狗病毒。
中国的狂犬疫苗曾经因为是假的造成被咬的人发病死亡,非洲的疫苗会不会是假的?
 
氯喹不是免疫抑制剂,不会强烈一直抗体的生成。

但是,氯喹的确会影响疫苗开发的临床试验。导致数据复杂性增加。科学家工作难度变得更高。

不过还是那句话,只要能救命,工作难度算个屁。
 
美国纽约大学2016- 2018年为军方野外行动中,对三种抗疟疾药物:氯喹,马拉隆和强力霉素对狂犬病疫苗抗体的抑制作用,进行了试验研究,试验结果发表于: 2020 Mar。

结论是:与马拉隆和强力霉素相比,唯有氯喹对疫苗抗体抑制作用明显,达到可以接受的水平。

这些研究开始于Covid疫情之前,和左右,政治,药价没有任何关系。

试验的详细情况:

Healthy adults aged 18 to 60 were recruited from 11-Nov-2016 to 07-Jun-2018 in and around the study site in Syracuse, New York

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/results/NCT02564471?view=results

发表的试验结果:

Effect of Antimalarial Drugs on the Immune Response to Intramuscular Rabies Vaccination Using a Postexposure Prophylaxis Regimen

Timothy P Endy 1 2, Paul B Keiser 3, Don Cibula 4, Mark Abbott 1, Lisa Ware 1, Stephen J Thomas 1, Mark E Polhemus 1

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PMID: 31743394

DOI: 10.1093/infdis/jiz558

Abstract

Background: Chloroquine can impair the immune responses to intradermal rabies vaccination. Current guidelines recommend an extra intramuscular dose be given for postexposure prophylaxis in previously unvaccinated persons taking any antimalarial drug.

Methods: We conducted a randomized, open-label, single-site study in 103 previously unvaccinated healthy adults age ≥18 to ≤60 years old to evaluate the effects of chloroquine, atovaquone/proguanil (Malarone), and doxycycline on the antibody response to a purified chick embryo cell vaccine, given on a postexposure prophylaxis schedule. All treatment groups received antimalarials 14 days prior to and during vaccination.

Results: All subjects achieved accepted neutralizing antibody titers of ≥0.5 IU/mL following the second rabies vaccination dose and maintained this protection through the duration of the study. We observed a reduction in rabies antibody geometric mean titer in the chloroquine versus control groups 28 days after vaccination: 2.3 versus 6.87 IU/mL, respectively (P < .001, t test). A significant difference was not observed for those taking Malarone or doxycycline.
Conclusions: We conclude that there is no reduction of rabies antibody response in subjects taking Malarone or doxycycline, but a significant reduction in those taking chloroquine; however, accepted antibody levels were achieved for all 3 antimalarials.

Clinical trials registration: NCT02564471.

Keywords: antimalarial drugs; prophylaxis; rabies; vaccination.

 
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