VW建电池厂，政府出130亿，这个可以有吧，不算大撒比吧？

[Jay Wang]

Industry Minister Francois-Philippe Champagne says the federal government's plans to provide approximately $13 billion in subsidies over the next decade, in order to see Volkswagen build its first overseas battery manufacturing plant in southwestern Ontario is 'a very good investment.' Industry minister defends Canada's $13B Volkswagen battery plant subsidy plans

Industry Minister Francois-Philippe Champagne says the federal government's plans to provide approximately $13 billion in subsidies over the next decade, in order to see Volkswagen build its first overseas battery manufacturing plant in southwestern Ontario is "a very good investment."


环保，就业，创税，这个可以有！

 

[metropolis]

Industry Minister Francois-Philippe Champagne says the federal government's plans to provide approximately $13 billion in subsidies over the next decade, in order to see Volkswagen build its first overseas battery manufacturing plant in southwestern Ontario is 'a very good investment.' Industry minister defends Canada's $13B Volkswagen battery plant subsidy plans

Industry Minister Francois-Philippe Champagne says the federal government's plans to provide approximately $13 billion in subsidies over the next decade, in order to see Volkswagen build its first overseas battery manufacturing plant in southwestern Ontario is "a very good investment."


环保，就业，创税，这个可以有！

https://bbs.comefromchina.com/threads/1826627/

VW在合肥投资10亿欧元建立EV研发中心。

这是不是加拿大补贴到中国去了？

 

[Jay Wang]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/london/vw-volkswagen-st-thomas-battery-plant-german-autos-car-industry-electric-vehicles-1.6817262

@ert0000

赶紧推电子电器，也许能赶上这波！

 

[metropolis]

在安省设立的大众电池厂交易，比以前宣布的花费更高，使联邦政府十年需付出163亿纳税人的钱。​

Volkswagen deal to cost the federal government more than previously announced: PBO​

A Volkswagen logo is seen on the grill of a Volkswagen on display in Pittsburgh, Feb. 14, 2013. (AP / Gene J. Puskar)

• The Canadian Press

Published June 14, 2023 10:33 a.m. EDT

OTTAWA - The parliamentary budget officer says Canada's exclusive contract with German auto giant Volkswagen to build an electric vehicle battery plant in southwestern Ontario will cost the federal government up to $16.3 billion over the next ten years.

That figure is higher than what the federal government said the deal would cost taxpayers, which included a $700-million upfront capital investment and up to $13.2 billion in production tax credits.

The analysis by the PBO looks at the fiscal and economic costs and benefits of the deal in the construction phase of the facility only.

The PBO estimate includes the $700-million contribution for the construction of the plant and $12.8 billion in production support, but also estimates Ottawa will have to make additional tax adjustments that total $2.8 billion to match the benefits offered by the U.S. Inflation Reduction Act.

The analysis also estimates that the deal would create a peak of 3,100 jobs at the start of 2026, but that figure would fall to 1,400 by the end of 2027.

The federal government announced in April the details of the deal -- which would see Volkswagen build its first gigafactory outside of Europe --and promised it would create up to 3,000 direct jobs and 30,000 indirect jobs.

This report by The Canadian Press was first published June 14, 2023

Volkswagen deal to cost the federal government more than previously announced: PBO

The parliamentary budget officer says Canada's exclusive contract with German auto giant Volkswagen to build an electric vehicle battery plant in southwestern Ontario will cost the federal government up to $16.3 billion over the next ten years.

www.ctvnews.ca

 

[welcomelm]

在安省设立的大众电池厂交易，比以前宣布的花费更高，使联邦政府十年需付出163亿纳税人的钱。​

Volkswagen deal to cost the federal government more than previously announced: PBO​

A Volkswagen logo is seen on the grill of a Volkswagen on display in Pittsburgh, Feb. 14, 2013. (AP / Gene J. Puskar)

• The Canadian Press

Published June 14, 2023 10:33 a.m. EDT

OTTAWA - The parliamentary budget officer says Canada's exclusive contract with German auto giant Volkswagen to build an electric vehicle battery plant in southwestern Ontario will cost the federal government up to $16.3 billion over the next ten years.

That figure is higher than what the federal government said the deal would cost taxpayers, which included a $700-million upfront capital investment and up to $13.2 billion in production tax credits.

The analysis by the PBO looks at the fiscal and economic costs and benefits of the deal in the construction phase of the facility only.

The PBO estimate includes the $700-million contribution for the construction of the plant and $12.8 billion in production support, but also estimates Ottawa will have to make additional tax adjustments that total $2.8 billion to match the benefits offered by the U.S. Inflation Reduction Act.

The analysis also estimates that the deal would create a peak of 3,100 jobs at the start of 2026, but that figure would fall to 1,400 by the end of 2027.

The federal government announced in April the details of the deal -- which would see Volkswagen build its first gigafactory outside of Europe --and promised it would create up to 3,000 direct jobs and 30,000 indirect jobs.

This report by The Canadian Press was first published June 14, 2023

Volkswagen deal to cost the federal government more than previously announced: PBO

The parliamentary budget officer says Canada's exclusive contract with German auto giant Volkswagen to build an electric vehicle battery plant in southwestern Ontario will cost the federal government up to $16.3 billion over the next ten years.

www.ctvnews.ca

tax credit不是直接给钱，而是政府少收税，创造出工作是实打实的。而且这是减碳排放的一部分，该减多少税都有规定，根据第三方的feasibility study，不会乱来。

 

[ccc]

多此一举。

 

[ztbll]

挺好，政府的钱就是用来浪费的，浪费在电池厂总比资助lgbt活动有意义。

 

[metropolis]

tax credit不是直接给钱，而是政府少收税，创造出工作是实打实的。而且这是减碳排放的一部分，该减多少税都有规定，根据第三方的feasibility study，不会乱来。

163亿2026年peak 工作岗位3100,到2027年底只剩下1400了，也许你觉着很合适，没有乱来，我看着不太合算。

 

[ztbll]

163亿2026年peak 工作岗位3100,到2027年底只剩下1400了，也许你觉着很合适，没有乱来，我看着不太合算。

一看就不懂工业。已经很合算了，加拿大啥实力心里没点逼数？有本事就自己建个电池厂，牌子就叫土豆牌蓄电池。

 

[welcomelm]

163亿2026年peak 工作岗位3100,到2027年底只剩下1400了，也许你觉着很合适，没有乱来，我看着不太合算。

你不懂tax credit什么意思？不是给钱，少收tax。你挣的钱多，就多收税，如果没有利润，这些credit相当于没有。

举个例子就是你今年投资失败的损失的钱只能用来抵扣你将来的盈利，如果你总不盈利就没有用。

而且这个工厂还要拉动上下游产业。

 

[metropolis]

你不懂tax credit什么意思？不是给钱，少收tax。你挣的钱多，就多收税，如果没有利润，这些credit相当于没有。

举个例子就是你今年投资失败的损失的钱只能用来抵扣你将来的盈利，如果你总不盈利就没有用。

而且这个工厂还要拉动上下游产业。

我明白tax credit 是什么意思，都是招商引资谈判deal 的一部分，我没有具体数据，也没有深入研究，只是粗略估计可能是个冤大头deal. Stellanis不就是因为大众的补贴，以退出加拿大要挟match。

EV行业是未来发展方向，投资是必要的，如何把握是专家和政客的智慧了。别再搞出个阿蹄来，怕了。

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