谁愿意把生命交给机器控制，玩自动驾驶?

[billwanhua]

Unpatchable AMD Chip Flaw Unlocks Paid Tesla Feature Upgrades

Sorry Elon, but this appears to be unpatchable.

www.tomshardware.com

Sorry Elon, but this jailbreak appears to be unpatchable.


Now, a team of security researchers from TU Berlin has found a way to exploit or "jailbreak" the MCU found in modern Tesla vehicles to unlock paid features and more. To execute the attack, the researchers exploited a known flaw in AMD's processor that controls Tesla's MCU.

Black Hat

Black Hat

www.blackhat.com

Our gained root permissions enable arbitrary changes to Linux that survive reboots and updates. They allow an attacker to decrypt the encrypted NVMe storage and access private user data such as the phonebook, calendar entries, etc. On the other hand, it can also benefit car usage in unsupported regions. Furthermore, the ASP attack opens up the possibility of extracting a TPM-protected attestation key Tesla uses to authenticate the car. This enables migrating a car's identity to another car computer without Tesla's help whatsoever, easing certain repairing efforts.

 

[chicago666]

再过几年，技术更成熟的话，ok的。

 

[rottenmelon]

这都得让领导先用上，咱韭菜才敢上啊

 

[jian dan]

自动驾驶依赖于各种sensor，sensor失灵了就很致命象波音737max。

 

[ccc]

只要有其他选择，我不会买辆自动驾驶的车。

 

[Littlecesar]

“谁愿意把生命交给机器控制？”
一个程度的问题，一百多年前的第一次人类航班，两百年前的第一列人类火车，四千多年前的第一辆人类轩辕，从那时开始，人类就慢慢把生命交给机器了。

 

[:($):]

机器比人开得好多了

 

[春夏秋鼕]

自动驾驶安全性最终会远超人类，但自动驾驶没乐趣

 

[superlover]

即使目前为止总体而言AD也比人类司机安全。

你坐大巴和Uber车，难道不是把生命交给人家司机。AD很快就会赶上这些熟练专业司机

 

[uglyducking]

自动驾驶安全性最终会远超人类，但自动驾驶没乐趣

老向你可以在车上有其他乐趣啊，比方说数房租

 

[茶马盐铁]

我愿意， 前提是先送我一台能够自动驾驶的车。 让我掏钱就免谈。

 

[春夏秋鼕]

老向你可以在车上有其他乐趣啊，比方说数房租

心中有老向啊

 

[longshan]

Unpatchable AMD Chip Flaw Unlocks Paid Tesla Feature Upgrades

Sorry Elon, but this appears to be unpatchable.

www.tomshardware.com

Sorry Elon, but this jailbreak appears to be unpatchable.


Now, a team of security researchers from TU Berlin has found a way to exploit or "jailbreak" the MCU found in modern Tesla vehicles to unlock paid features and more. To execute the attack, the researchers exploited a known flaw in AMD's processor that controls Tesla's MCU.

Black Hat

Black Hat

www.blackhat.com

Our gained root permissions enable arbitrary changes to Linux that survive reboots and updates. They allow an attacker to decrypt the encrypted NVMe storage and access private user data such as the phonebook, calendar entries, etc. On the other hand, it can also benefit car usage in unsupported regions. Furthermore, the ASP attack opens up the possibility of extracting a TPM-protected attestation key Tesla uses to authenticate the car. This enables migrating a car's identity to another car computer without Tesla's help whatsoever, easing certain repairing efforts.

搞不懂你们为什么这么敏感在自动驾驶的问题上，你总是要坐飞机的吧，你做的飞机绝大多数时间甚至全程都在自动驾驶，驾驶员大多数时间坐在那里啥都不做你也没觉得生命有多大冒险吧。这就是个习惯问题，相信我十年以后，大多数汽车都会是自动驾驶的

 

[billwanhua]

搞不懂你们为什么这么敏感在自动驾驶的问题上，你总是要坐飞机的吧，你做的飞机绝大多数时间甚至全程都在自动驾驶，驾驶员大多数时间坐在那里啥都不做你也没觉得生命有多大冒险吧。这就是个习惯问题，相信我十年以后，大多数汽车都会是自动驾驶的

10年搞不定。
飞机在空中，还有人控制。
自动驾驶很多fundamental问题没有解决，在某个特定地方开，跟在任何地方开是完全不同的概念，还有计算机安全问题，网上被骗或者电脑被黑了损失的是金钱，但是车子被黑了就是生命问题

 

[jxyiliu]

不是说公司能够证明它的自动驾驶技术只要比人驾驶会更加安全和可靠， 法律上就应该可行啦吗？