远隔万里,我们被以色列国防部惦记上了:将加沙平民转移到埃及西奈半岛,加拿大可能是最终目的地

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Israeli ministry 'concept paper' proposes transferring Gaza civilians to Egypt's Sinai, with Canada as a possible final destination​


Amy Teibel

The Associated Press

Published Oct. 30, 2023 7:28 p.m. EDT

JERUSALEM - An Israeli government ministry has drafted a wartime proposal to transfer the Gaza Strip's(opens in a new tab) 2.3 million people to Egypt's Sinai peninsula, drawing condemnation from the Palestinians and worsening tensions with Cairo.
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's office played down the report compiled by the Intelligence Ministry as a hypothetical exercise -- a "concept paper." But its conclusions deepened long-standing Egyptian fears that Israel wants to make Gaza into Egypt's problem, and revived for Palestinians memories of their greatest trauma -- the uprooting of hundreds of thousands of people who fled or were forced from their homes during the fighting surrounding Israel's creation in 1948

"We are against transfer to any place, in any form, and we consider it a red line that we will not allow to be crossed," Nabil Abu Rudeineh, spokesman for Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, said of the report. "What happened in 1948 will not be allowed to happen again."

A mass displacement, Rudeineh said, would be "tantamount to declaring a new war."
So far more than 8,000 Palestinians, the vast majority of them civilians, have been killed since Israel went to war against Hamas after its Oct. 7 attack.

AIMED AT PRESERVING SECURITY FOR ISRAEL​

The document is dated Oct. 13, six days after Hamas militants killed more than 1,400 people in southern Israel and took over 240 hostage in an attack that provoked a devastating Israeli war in Gaza. It was first published by Sicha Mekomit, a local news site.
In its report, the Intelligence Ministry -- a junior ministry that conducts research but does not set policy -- offered three alternatives "to effect a significant change in the civilian reality in the Gaza Strip in light of the Hamas crimes that led to the Sword of Iron war."
The document's authors deem this alternative to be the most desirable for Israel's security.
The document proposes moving Gaza's civilian population to tent cities in northern Sinai, then building permanent cities and an undefined humanitarian corridor. A security zone would be established inside Israel to block the displaced Palestinians from entering. The report did not say what would become of Gaza once its population is cleared out.
Egypt's Foreign Ministry did not immediately respond to a request for comment on the report. But Egypt has made clear throughout this latest war that it does not want to take in a wave of Palestinian refugees.
Egypt has long feared that Israel wants to force a permanent expulsion of Palestinians into its territory, as happened during the war surrounding Israel's independence. Egypt ruled Gaza between 1948 and 1967, when Israel captured the territory, along with the West Bank and east Jerusalem. The vast majority of Gaza's population are the descendants of Palestinian refugees uprooted from what is now Israel.
Egypt's president, Abdel Fattah El-Sissi, has said a mass influx of refugees from Gaza would eliminate the Palestinian nationalist cause. It would also risk bringing militants into Sinai, where they might launch attacks on Israel, he said. That would endanger the countries' 1979 peace treaty. He proposed that Israel instead house Palestinians in its Negev Desert, which neighbors the Gaza Strip, until it ends its military operations.

Yoel Guzansky, a senior fellow at the Institute for National Security Studies in Tel Aviv, said the paper threatened to damage relations with a key partner.
"If this paper is true, this is a grave mistake. It might cause a strategic rift between Israel and Egypt," said Guzansky, who said he has consulted for the ministry in the past. "I see it either as ignorance or someone who wants to negatively affect Israel-Egypt relations, which are very important at this stage."
Egypt is a valuable partner that cooperates behind the scenes with Israel, he said. If it is seen as overtly assisting an Israeli plan like this, especially involving the Palestinians, it could be "devastating to its stability."

QUESTIONS OF LEGITIMACY -- AND OTHER POSSIBLE DESTINATIONS​

Egypt would not necessarily be the Palestinian refugees' last stop. The document speaks about Egypt, Turkey, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates supporting the plan either financially, or by taking in uprooted residents of Gaza as refugees and in the long term as citizens. Canada's "lenient" immigration practices also make it a potential resettlement target, the document adds.
At first glance, this proposal "is liable to be complicated in terms of international legitimacy," the document acknowledges. "In our assessment, fighting after the population is evacuated would lead to fewer civilian casualties compared to what could be expected if the population were to remain."
An Israeli official familiar with the document said it isn't binding and that there was no substantive discussion of it with security officials. Netanyahu's office called it a "concept paper, the likes of which are prepared at all levels of the government and its security agencies."
"The issue of the `day after' has not been discussed in any official forum in Israel, which is focused at this time on destroying the governing and military capabilities of Hamas," the prime minister's office said.
The document dismisses the two other options: reinstating the West Bank-based Palestinian Authority as the sovereign in Gaza, or supporting a local regime. Among other reasons, it rejects them as unable to deter attacks on Israel.
The reinstatement of the Palestinian Authority, which was ejected from Gaza after a weeklong 2007 war that put Hamas in power, would be "an unprecedented victory of the Palestinian national movement, a victory that will claim the lives of thousands of Israeli civilians and soldiers, and does not safeguard Israel's security," the document says.

 

Israeli ministry 'concept paper' proposes transferring Gaza civilians to Egypt's Sinai, with Canada as a possible final destination​


Amy Teibel

The Associated Press

Published Oct. 30, 2023 7:28 p.m. EDT

JERUSALEM - An Israeli government ministry has drafted a wartime proposal to transfer the Gaza Strip's(opens in a new tab) 2.3 million people to Egypt's Sinai peninsula, drawing condemnation from the Palestinians and worsening tensions with Cairo.
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's office played down the report compiled by the Intelligence Ministry as a hypothetical exercise -- a "concept paper." But its conclusions deepened long-standing Egyptian fears that Israel wants to make Gaza into Egypt's problem, and revived for Palestinians memories of their greatest trauma -- the uprooting of hundreds of thousands of people who fled or were forced from their homes during the fighting surrounding Israel's creation in 1948

"We are against transfer to any place, in any form, and we consider it a red line that we will not allow to be crossed," Nabil Abu Rudeineh, spokesman for Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, said of the report. "What happened in 1948 will not be allowed to happen again."

A mass displacement, Rudeineh said, would be "tantamount to declaring a new war."
So far more than 8,000 Palestinians, the vast majority of them civilians, have been killed since Israel went to war against Hamas after its Oct. 7 attack.

AIMED AT PRESERVING SECURITY FOR ISRAEL​

The document is dated Oct. 13, six days after Hamas militants killed more than 1,400 people in southern Israel and took over 240 hostage in an attack that provoked a devastating Israeli war in Gaza. It was first published by Sicha Mekomit, a local news site.
In its report, the Intelligence Ministry -- a junior ministry that conducts research but does not set policy -- offered three alternatives "to effect a significant change in the civilian reality in the Gaza Strip in light of the Hamas crimes that led to the Sword of Iron war."
The document's authors deem this alternative to be the most desirable for Israel's security.
The document proposes moving Gaza's civilian population to tent cities in northern Sinai, then building permanent cities and an undefined humanitarian corridor. A security zone would be established inside Israel to block the displaced Palestinians from entering. The report did not say what would become of Gaza once its population is cleared out.
Egypt's Foreign Ministry did not immediately respond to a request for comment on the report. But Egypt has made clear throughout this latest war that it does not want to take in a wave of Palestinian refugees.
Egypt has long feared that Israel wants to force a permanent expulsion of Palestinians into its territory, as happened during the war surrounding Israel's independence. Egypt ruled Gaza between 1948 and 1967, when Israel captured the territory, along with the West Bank and east Jerusalem. The vast majority of Gaza's population are the descendants of Palestinian refugees uprooted from what is now Israel.
Egypt's president, Abdel Fattah El-Sissi, has said a mass influx of refugees from Gaza would eliminate the Palestinian nationalist cause. It would also risk bringing militants into Sinai, where they might launch attacks on Israel, he said. That would endanger the countries' 1979 peace treaty. He proposed that Israel instead house Palestinians in its Negev Desert, which neighbors the Gaza Strip, until it ends its military operations.

Yoel Guzansky, a senior fellow at the Institute for National Security Studies in Tel Aviv, said the paper threatened to damage relations with a key partner.
"If this paper is true, this is a grave mistake. It might cause a strategic rift between Israel and Egypt," said Guzansky, who said he has consulted for the ministry in the past. "I see it either as ignorance or someone who wants to negatively affect Israel-Egypt relations, which are very important at this stage."
Egypt is a valuable partner that cooperates behind the scenes with Israel, he said. If it is seen as overtly assisting an Israeli plan like this, especially involving the Palestinians, it could be "devastating to its stability."

QUESTIONS OF LEGITIMACY -- AND OTHER POSSIBLE DESTINATIONS​

Egypt would not necessarily be the Palestinian refugees' last stop. The document speaks about Egypt, Turkey, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates supporting the plan either financially, or by taking in uprooted residents of Gaza as refugees and in the long term as citizens. Canada's "lenient" immigration practices also make it a potential resettlement target, the document adds.
At first glance, this proposal "is liable to be complicated in terms of international legitimacy," the document acknowledges. "In our assessment, fighting after the population is evacuated would lead to fewer civilian casualties compared to what could be expected if the population were to remain."
An Israeli official familiar with the document said it isn't binding and that there was no substantive discussion of it with security officials. Netanyahu's office called it a "concept paper, the likes of which are prepared at all levels of the government and its security agencies."
"The issue of the `day after' has not been discussed in any official forum in Israel, which is focused at this time on destroying the governing and military capabilities of Hamas," the prime minister's office said.
The document dismisses the two other options: reinstating the West Bank-based Palestinian Authority as the sovereign in Gaza, or supporting a local regime. Among other reasons, it rejects them as unable to deter attacks on Israel.
The reinstatement of the Palestinian Authority, which was ejected from Gaza after a weeklong 2007 war that put Hamas in power, would be "an unprecedented victory of the Palestinian national movement, a victory that will claim the lives of thousands of Israeli civilians and soldiers, and does not safeguard Israel's security," the document says.


那些CFC说跟加拿大无关的,或者强烈支持加沙攻击的出来走一走,你们是不是同意这个方法。
 

加拿大再提供五千万人道援助 支援加沙地区巴勒斯坦人​

2023年10月22日 08:00

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【星岛都市网】以巴紧张局势持续升温,加拿大外交部长乔美兰(Melanie Joly)和国际发展部长胡森(Ahmed Hussen),当地时间周六抵达埃及开罗,参加为期两天的和平高峰会。

在高峰会上,加拿大宣布将额外提供5,000万元的人道援助,以支援加沙走廊及其周边地区的巴勒斯坦人。根据全球事务部周六发布的新闻稿,这笔援助将用于提供食品、水、医疗援助和救援物资给该地区的平民,同时确保这些资金不会流入哈马斯的手中。
乔美兰说:“至关重要的是,加沙的巴勒斯坦平民需要尽快获得救援物资。加拿大将继续与值得信赖且经验丰富的人道主义伙伴合作,以确保这笔资金能够传达到那些受苦的人手中。””
加拿大官员在高峰会期间与其他国家代表讨论了以哈战争,这场战争已有数千加沙居民死亡。人道机构表示,随着援助物资首次抵达受战争地区,这一数字可能会继续上升,埃及和加沙之间的过境点亦在两周前被封锁。
自10月7日哈马斯发动攻击以来,加拿大已提供1,000万元的人道援助,并组织了16架航班,以协助疏散加拿大人及其家人。据指,目前仍无计划撤离加沙地区的400多名加拿大公民。
在加拿大,33名议员联合致信总理杜鲁多,呼吁立即实现停火,以保护两战线上的无辜平民。
联合国粮食计划署驻巴勒斯坦国主任阿卜杜贾贝尔(Samer Abdeljaber)说,加沙地区已有100万人面临粮食不安全的困境,而随着危机的扩大,这一数字还在增加,避难所也变得挤满人群。阿卜杜贾贝尔指出,随着战争持续,加沙地区的人道工作人员越来越难以帮助平民,因为他们自己也流离失所。
 
那些CFC说跟加拿大无关的,或者强烈支持加沙攻击的出来走一走,你们是不是同意这个方法。
CTV搞这个题目是不是想要挑起民众的不良情绪?不过,以色列文件中的确不打算选靠近自己的地方,因此盯上了移民政策比较宽松,又远隔万里的加拿大。
 
土豆不远万里邀请哈马斯?为毛不送美国?:evil:
 
一帮傻逼支持以色列的,这下开心了
当年美国不去伊拉克阿富汗嚯嚯,北美欧洲哪儿会有这么多穆斯林
 
巴勒斯坦人来加拿大能过好日子,以色列那边也太平了,地方也大了,这是对以色列最大的支持,比支持枪炮都有用。
周边阿拉伯国家都不接难民的目的也是为了让他们保住领土,走了地就没有了。
约旦就接受过这些人,直接导致约旦内战。之后这批人进入黎巴嫩,形成了现在的真主党武装。这就是为什么约旦、埃及不接受加沙“难民”的原因。大哥你是想看加拿大内战吗?
 
一帮傻逼支持以色列的,这下开心了
当年美国不去伊拉克阿富汗嚯嚯,北美欧洲哪儿会有这么多穆斯林
以色列报复哈马斯与加拿大是否愿意接受加沙人完全是两码事。
 
约旦就接受过这些人,直接导致约旦内战。之后这批人进入黎巴嫩,形成了现在的真主党武装。这就是为什么约旦、埃及不接受加沙“难民”的原因。大哥你是想看加拿大内战吗?
这个对以色列和美国是最优方案:tx:

即解决了目前危机,也永久解决了中东安全和恐怖问题,至于加拿大?那些无条件支持以色列难道不应该pay little price :jiayou:
 
诸位援助加沙和邀请阿巴斯都和以色列的计划毫不相干,好比你给医院捐款和请某位受捐助者,比如司机来呼吁,和某外国卫生部决定把整个医院的病人都搬迁到你们村。

凭什么?首先这是加拿大的内政,岂容以色列插话。
 
这个对以色列和美国是最优方案:tx:

即解决了目前危机,也永久解决了中东安全和恐怖问题,至于加拿大?那些无条件支持以色列难道不应该pay little price :jiayou:
不可能,那等于放哈马斯直接进入美国,后边就是911,1011……
 
诸位援助加沙和邀请阿巴斯都和以色列的计划毫不相干,好比你给医院捐款和请某位受捐助者,比如司机来呼吁,和某外国卫生部决定把整个医院的病人都搬迁到你们村。

凭什么?首先这是加拿大的内政,岂容以色列插话。
除非土豆主动请缨,不然就是瞎想!
 
不可能,那等于放哈马斯直接进入美国,后边就是911,1011……
那我给你出个主意,有个地方叫澳洲,那地方有沙漠和大海,跟加沙环境差不多,天时:jiayou:
 
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