川普任重道远：50% 关税也不能阻止中国货

[billwanhua]

Chinese suppliers shrug off U.S. tariff threats as customers flock to their cheap goods

"Even a 50% tariff won’t come close to driving them away."

fortune.com

“My customers told me even a 50% tariff won’t come close to driving them away,”
said Jack Jin, who sells cargo-control tools and truck parts from southeast China. He says about half his orders come from Americans—who can sell his products for four times what they pay him.

比亚迪1万美元的车加50%关税人，卖2万依然有竞争力吧？

 

[welcomelm]

Chinese suppliers shrug off U.S. tariff threats as customers flock to their cheap goods

"Even a 50% tariff won’t come close to driving them away."

fortune.com

“My customers told me even a 50% tariff won’t come close to driving them away,”
said Jack Jin, who sells cargo-control tools and truck parts from southeast China. He says about half his orders come from Americans—who can sell his products for four times what they pay him.

比亚迪1万美元的车加50%关税人，卖2万依然有竞争力吧？

比亚迪什么时候能在美国卖了?

 

[Littlecesar]

国贸对世界贸易体系的冲击是常人所无法预估的，十来年没关心平面电视，今天一看Costco 65吋大屏电视，海信的，才不到六百块加币，这是要抹杀多少竞争者啊！

 

[草头将军]

我就不明白美国对中国的关税是选择性的。对很多不可替换的中国货不加关税，为什么中国不对这些产品征收对美出口关税？

 

[raid]

我就不明白美国对中国的关税是选择性的。对很多不可替换的中国货不加关税，为什么中国不对这些产品征收对美出口关税？

还用问，赚钱呗

 

[Jay Wang]

Chinese suppliers shrug off U.S. tariff threats as customers flock to their cheap goods

"Even a 50% tariff won’t come close to driving them away."

fortune.com

“My customers told me even a 50% tariff won’t come close to driving them away,”
said Jack Jin, who sells cargo-control tools and truck parts from southeast China. He says about half his orders come from Americans—who can sell his products for four times what they pay him.

比亚迪1万美元的车加50%关税人，卖2万依然有竞争力吧？

土豆学着点。30%关税，budget就能平衡itself!

 

[billwanhua]

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/why-byds-ev-exports-sell-twice-china-price-2024-04-26/

In some foreign showrooms, BYD charges more than double — sometimes nearly triple — the price it gets for three key models in China, according to a Reuters review of the automaker’s pricing in five of its biggest export markets.

Take the BYD Atto 3, a compact electric crossover. In China, the midrange version sells for $19,283. In Germany, the little SUV is priced at $42,789 — a price that's still competitive with comparable electric vehicles in that market.

"They're not looking to undercut the European market,” he said. “They are looking to make margin."

比亚迪在国外同样车是中国卖的价格的2-3倍，在欧洲市场还非常有竞争力。

1.这说中国倾销说不过去吧？都加价2-3倍了
2. 为什么中国人能造这么便宜的车，还是老外都是巨额利润？
3. 如果在国外卖2-3倍的价格，收100%关税也禁止不了，只能像禁止华为一样不准卖了

 

[welcomelm]

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/why-byds-ev-exports-sell-twice-china-price-2024-04-26/

In some foreign showrooms, BYD charges more than double — sometimes nearly triple — the price it gets for three key models in China, according to a Reuters review of the automaker’s pricing in five of its biggest export markets.

Take the BYD Atto 3, a compact electric crossover. In China, the midrange version sells for $19,283. In Germany, the little SUV is priced at $42,789 — a price that's still competitive with comparable electric vehicles in that market.

"They're not looking to undercut the European market,” he said. “They are looking to make margin."

比亚迪在国外同样车是中国卖的价格的2-3倍，在欧洲市场还非常有竞争力。

1.这说中国倾销说不过去吧？都加价2-3倍了
2. 为什么中国人能造这么便宜的车，还是老外都是巨额利润？
3. 如果在国外卖2-3倍的价格，收100%关税也禁止不了，只能像禁止华为一样不准卖了

除了本地化没有其他选择，美国已经说的很清楚了，不接受中国通过出口来支撑就业的企图。你要去底特律开工厂，造出来的车还能有竞争力，那算你牛逼。美欧车厂都被工会折腾成什么样了，要任由中国车厂这样出口，那些工会还能有饭吃？不可能答应的。

 

[茶马盐铁]

Chinese suppliers shrug off U.S. tariff threats as customers flock to their cheap goods

"Even a 50% tariff won’t come close to driving them away."

fortune.com

“My customers told me even a 50% tariff won’t come close to driving them away,”
said Jack Jin, who sells cargo-control tools and truck parts from southeast China. He says about half his orders come from Americans—who can sell his products for four times what they pay him.

比亚迪1万美元的车加50%关税人，卖2万依然有竞争力吧？

两万的话， 竞争力就不大了。

我有两万美元， 与其买比亚迪， 还不如买Corolla油车呢， 价格差不多， 保险还比你便宜，使用年限比你长， resell的value也比你高。 而且自燃风险还比你低。 我为啥要买比亚迪？大家都是一样的开一开车而已。

比亚迪要打败油车， 要么说动政府， 跟中国学， 油车不给牌照， 电车才给牌照；要么降价， 5千一辆， 你买不买？那样的话， 大多数人都会愿意尝一尝的。

 

[billwanhua]

两万的话， 竞争力就不大了。

我有两万美元， 与其买比亚迪， 还不如买Corolla油车呢， 价格差不多， 保险还比你便宜，使用年限比你长， resell的value也比你高。 而且自燃风险还比你低。 我为啥要买比亚迪？大家都是一样的开一开车而已。

比亚迪要打败油车， 要么说动政府， 跟中国学， 油车不给牌照， 电车才给牌照；要么降价， 5千一辆， 你买不买？那样的话， 大多数人都会愿意尝一尝的。

你自认为门而清，帐一分一分的算，你不买就是，自然有你认为是傻鸟的去做冤大头，要不然为什么欧美都害怕中国电动车呢！

 

[春夏秋鼕]

土豆学着点。30%关税，budget就能平衡itself!

如果没有销量，白搭，还得鼓励屁民积极购买，把量做起来，土豆的话就实现了，看谁还BB

 

[jian dan]

油价从1块涨到2块，也不能阻止还是有人要买油车，就是油车卖的少些而已。只有等彻底禁了油车上路，大家才会都买电车。

 

[茶马盐铁]

你自认为门而清，帐一分一分的算，你不买就是，自然有你认为是傻鸟的去做冤大头，要不然为什么欧美都害怕中国电动车呢！

你自己扪心自问嘛

你就想一想，你现在急需要买一辆车，可以买2万的比亚迪电车，也可以买2万的烤肉拉油车。你自己说，你更愿意买哪一辆？

再换个情景，其他所有条件都一样，就是比亚迪电车降价到了5千。烤肉拉油车还是2万。你再想想，愿意买哪辆？

大家将心比心嘛。

 

[茶马盐铁]

油价从1块涨到2块，也不能阻止还是有人要买油车，就是油车卖的少些而已。只有等彻底禁了油车上路，大家才会都买电车。

还可以买hybrid嘛。

既省油，遇到紧急情况，也不耽误加油就走。

 

[阿土仔]

你自认为门而清，帐一分一分的算，你不买就是，自然有你认为是傻鸟的去做冤大头，要不然为什么欧美都害怕中国电动车呢！

其实还是取决于政府的政策。如果不对汽油苛重税、给电车补贴，完全按市场规律办，也没那么多人买电车的帐。现在政府的策略无非是加汽油税捞一笔，骗老百姓买电车，又捞一笔，然后涨电价，继续再捞…… 什么“环保”都是为捞钱安的遮羞布，老百姓是地地道道的傻笔……