川普上台，欧洲中国放弃贸易战抱团取暖？

[billwanhua]

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/eu-china-close-agreement-over-ev-import-tariffs-leading-mep-says-2024-11-22/

路透社报道称，欧洲议会贸易委员会主席贝恩德·兰格在接受采访时透露：“我们接近达成协议：中国可能会承诺在欧盟市场以最低价格销售电动汽车。”他补充说，这将消除因不公平补贴导致的竞争扭曲，这也是最初引入关税的原因。
欧盟委员会尚未对此发表评论。上个月，欧盟决定将中国生产的电动汽车进口关税提高至最高45.3%，这是其最高调的贸易调查之一，此举在欧洲内部引起了分歧，并触发了中国的报复措施。这些关税于10月30日生效，旨在对抗欧盟所谓的”不公平补贴“，包括优惠融资、补助金以及低于市场价格的土地、电池和原材料供应。尽管关税已经实施，但双方仍在继续谈判，以寻求解决方案。这尤其让依赖中国市场的德国汽车制造商感到希望，他们希望能够避免一场贸易战。中国驻欧盟商会当时表示，对欧盟的“保护主义”和“任意”措施深感失望。
这一进展显示，中欧双方都在努力通过对话和协商解决贸易争端，以维护双方的经济利益。

"We are close to an agreement: China could commit to offering e-cars in the EU at a minimum price," Bernd Lange told n-tv, without elaborating. "This would eliminate the distortion of competition through unfair subsidies, which is why the tariffs were originally introduced."

中国企业限价销售，而不是欧洲国家收税，这太亏了，中国企业大赚？

 

[向问天]

“我们接近达成协议：中国可能会承诺在欧盟市场以最低价格销售电动汽车。

之前的矛盾不就是中国的电动车价格太低吗？

 

[gocanoeing]

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/eu-china-close-agreement-over-ev-import-tariffs-leading-mep-says-2024-11-22/

路透社报道称，欧洲议会贸易委员会主席贝恩德·兰格在接受采访时透露：“我们接近达成协议：中国可能会承诺在欧盟市场以最低价格销售电动汽车。”他补充说，这将消除因不公平补贴导致的竞争扭曲，这也是最初引入关税的原因。
欧盟委员会尚未对此发表评论。上个月，欧盟决定将中国生产的电动汽车进口关税提高至最高45.3%，这是其最高调的贸易调查之一，此举在欧洲内部引起了分歧，并触发了中国的报复措施。这些关税于10月30日生效，旨在对抗欧盟所谓的”不公平补贴“，包括优惠融资、补助金以及低于市场价格的土地、电池和原材料供应。尽管关税已经实施，但双方仍在继续谈判，以寻求解决方案。这尤其让依赖中国市场的德国汽车制造商感到希望，他们希望能够避免一场贸易战。中国驻欧盟商会当时表示，对欧盟的“保护主义”和“任意”措施深感失望。
这一进展显示，中欧双方都在努力通过对话和协商解决贸易争端，以维护双方的经济利益。

"We are close to an agreement: China could commit to offering e-cars in the EU at a minimum price," Bernd Lange told n-tv, without elaborating. "This would eliminate the distortion of competition through unfair subsidies, which is why the tariffs were originally introduced."

中国企业限价销售，而不是欧洲国家收税，这太亏了，中国企业大赚？

这其实可能是今后一个趋势，对大家都有利
比如欧美说中国钢铝倾销，那么中国是不是能自定一个价格，不能低于这个价格出口，免得别人说倾销？
中国很多企业别的本事没有，只会互相杀价，压榨员工，污染环境，把出口退税一大半都当成折扣打价格战
这些人需要指导，需要教育，哦，不是再教育

 

[billwanhua]

Opinion: Europe’s car battery ambitions go up in smoke. China wins again as Northvolt files for bankruptcy

Northvolt was hobbled by severe production problems, a shortage of funding and skittish customers, a few of whom lost patience with the low output

www.theglobeandmail.com

Europe’s car battery ambitions go up in smoke. China wins again as Northvolt files for bankruptcy, while 土豆 lost the most

Canadian pension funds exposed as battery maker Northvolt struggles to survive

Northvolt has suffered this year as EV demand growth slowed and a US$2.15-billion battery order was cancelled, while the fate of a $7-billion factory planned for Quebec has yet to be decided

www.theglobeandmail.com

On Saturday, as financing talks continued, the Financial Times broke news that Northvolt is considering filing for Chapter 11 bankruptcy in the United States and that one major investor has already written the value of the company down to zero. Reuters added insult to injury Monday with an exclusive on Northvolt’s chronic failures to meet internal production targets. The good news is that the federal government’s subsidies to the factory were contingent on the factory coming onstream, which was originally supposed to happen in late 2026, and Quebec has only paid out about a third or so of the $1.4 billion it promised

The bad news, as the Globe and Mail reported Tuesday morning, is that Ontario pension plans and Quebec’s Caisse de dépôt have a lot of capital tied up in Northvolt — nobody’s saying exactly how much — and there is little certainty about where those investors stand in the event of a bankruptcy filing. The Quebec factory is itself undergoing “strategic review” by Northvolt management, and of course might end up still being finished, on some timeline, by some owner or other. But Trudeau’s “win-win-win” is definitely looking shaky for all three of the enchanted victors from long-ago 2023, when nobody could possibly have seen any of this chaos coming.

Northvolt申请破产，一个最大投资者把这个公司资产清零。
好的一方面是土豆的资助跟工厂的进度挂钩，魁北克省的钱也只给了1/3.
坏的方面是，安省和魁省退休基金大批钱（ nobody’s saying exactly how much ）已经砸进去了（一个主要投资者把所有投资清零）