坚决反制!对原产于美国的所有进口商品再加征41%关税--中国也加到145了,昨天那几个白痴不是说中国不敢跟了吗,呵呵

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国务院关税税则委员会今天发布公告,2025年4月10日,美国政府宣布对中国输美商品征收“对等关税”的税率进一步提高至125%。美方对华加征畸高关税,严重违反国际经贸规则,也违背基本的经济规律和常识,完全是单边霸凌胁迫做法。

根据《中华人民共和国关税法》、《中华人民共和国海关法》、《中华人民共和国对外贸易法》等法律法规和国际法基本原则,经国务院批准,自2025年4月12日起,调整对原产于美国的进口商品加征关税措施。有关事项如下:

一、调整《国务院关税税则委员会关于调整对原产于美国的进口商品加征关税措施的公告》(税委会公告2025年第5号)规定的加征关税税率,由84%提高至125%。鉴于在目前关税水平下,美国输华商品已无市场接受可能性,如果美方后续对中国输美商品继续加征关税,中方将不予理会。

二、其他事项按照《国务院关税税则委员会关于对原产于美国的进口商品加征关税的公告》(税委会公告2025年第4号)执行。

 
我发现 一郎.马斯克 Grok 3 AI 模型很好用啊,数据非常新,问一个问题:川普的贸易战会赢吗?这是回答:
To address whether Trump’s trade war will “win,” we need to define what “winning” means in this context. Trump’s stated goals, based on available information, include reducing trade deficits, bringing manufacturing jobs back to the U.S., and forcing other countries to lower their trade barriers through “reciprocal” tariffs. Let’s break this down by examining the potential outcomes, economic impacts, and global responses as of April 11, 2025, while critically analyzing the situation.


Economic Impacts on the U.S.


Trump’s trade war, which escalated with a 10% baseline tariff on nearly all imports and higher rates on specific countries (e.g., 34% on China, later raised to 145% after earlier levies), has already caused significant economic turbulence. The Tax Foundation estimates that these tariffs will reduce U.S. GDP by 0.2%, shrink the capital stock by 0.1%, and cut 142,000 full-time equivalent jobs in the long run. They also project an average tax increase of $1,900 per U.S. household in 2025, making this the largest tax hike since 1982. This suggests that American consumers are bearing a heavy cost, as tariffs are effectively a tax on imports that gets passed on through higher prices.


The U.S. stock market has been volatile, with the S&P 500 losing nearly $6 trillion in value over a four-day period following the tariff announcements, though a temporary rollback on some tariffs for 90 days led to a 9.5% rally in the S&P 500. Economists like JPMorgan CEO Jamie Dimon and Goldman Sachs’ Jan Hatzius have raised recession odds to 60% and 45%, respectively, citing the tariffs as a major risk. The National Retail Federation warns that higher consumer prices will disproportionately hurt small businesses and local communities. This paints a picture of significant domestic economic strain, which could undermine Trump’s goal of boosting U.S. manufacturing if businesses and consumers cut back on spending.


Global Reactions and Retaliation


The trade war has provoked widespread retaliation. China matched the U.S.’s 34% tariffs with its own and later raised them to 84%, while also restricting exports of rare earth elements critical for U.S. industries like electric vehicles and defense. The European Union approved counter-tariffs starting April 15, 2025, though they paused them to allow for negotiations. Canada imposed a 25% counter-tariff on non-USMCA-compliant U.S. vehicles, and countries like Vietnam (hit with a 46% tariff) are engaging in talks to mitigate the impact. This global pushback suggests that Trump’s strategy of using tariffs as leverage may not force the concessions he hopes for, as foreign leaders face domestic pressure not to appear weak.


Beijing, in particular, seems prepared for a “war of attrition,” with analysts noting that China’s leadership under Xi Jinping can weather economic pain better than the U.S. due to its tightly controlled political system. China’s ability to deploy fiscal and monetary stimulus contrasts with the U.S., where Trump faces electoral pressure and a free media amplifying public discontent. Protests in the U.S. and criticism from Wall Street further highlight the political risks for Trump, whereas Xi faces no such domestic resistance.


Will Trump Achieve His Goals?


  1. Reducing Trade Deficits: Economists argue that Trump’s goal of balancing trade with China is unfeasible in the short-to-medium term. The U.S. is the world’s largest consumer, while China is the leading producer, creating a structural imbalance. Tariffs may reduce imports, but they also disrupt supply chains, raising costs for U.S. businesses and consumers. If other countries find new markets—as China is already doing—the U.S. could lose leverage over time, as some posts on X suggest.
  2. Bringing Back Jobs: The promise of revitalizing U.S. manufacturing is questionable. The Tax Foundation notes that the capital-to-labor ratio remains unchanged in the long run, meaning tariffs won’t boost pre-tax wages. Job losses (142,000 estimated) and higher costs for businesses could offset any gains in manufacturing employment. Moreover, global supply chains are complex—tariffs on intermediate goods (e.g., steel, aluminum) increase production costs for U.S. manufacturers, potentially making them less competitive.
  3. Forcing Concessions: Trump’s tariffs aim to pressure other countries into lowering their trade barriers, but the response has been mixed. While some nations like Vietnam and Singapore are engaging in talks, others like China and the EU are retaliating rather than conceding. The 90-day tariff pause on dozens of countries (except China) suggests Trump may be backtracking under market pressure, but his administration’s insistence on maintaining high tariffs on China (now at 145%) indicates a hardline stance that could prolong the conflict.

Critical Analysis


The establishment narrative, as reflected in sources like The New York Times and Reuters, portrays Trump’s trade war as reckless and economically damaging, with little strategic coherence. However, this view may overlook Trump’s broader political strategy. His tariffs resonate with a domestic audience frustrated by decades of trade imbalances, and his willingness to disrupt the global trade order could force long-term structural changes, even if they come at a short-term cost. On the other hand, critics like the Center for American Progress argue that the tariffs isolate the U.S. on the world stage, weaken economic alliances, and fail to address the root causes of trade deficits, such as currency manipulation or labor cost differences.


A key flaw in Trump’s approach is the assumption that tariffs alone can rebalance trade without addressing domestic factors like U.S. consumption patterns or the dollar’s status as the world’s reserve currency, which encourages imports. Additionally, the tariffs’ blanket application—hitting allies like the EU and Canada alongside adversaries like China—may erode goodwill needed for broader geopolitical goals, such as countering China’s influence.


Conclusion


Trump’s trade war is unlikely to “win” in the sense of achieving its stated economic goals without significant costs. The U.S. economy faces a high risk of recession, job losses, and inflation, while global retaliation and supply chain disruptions could undermine manufacturing gains. Politically, Trump may gain short-term support from his base, but sustained economic pain could erode his position, especially with midterm elections approaching in 2026. China’s resilience and the reluctance of other nations to make public concessions suggest that the trade war may drag on as a costly stalemate rather than a decisive victory. The long-term impact on global trade norms remains uncertain, but as of now, the immediate winners appear to be the few countries navigating the chaos to their advantage, while the U.S. and its consumers bear the brunt of the fallout.
 
V5 :jiayou:

还是脱钩算了,各过各的,老死不相往来,也挺好的。
 
国务院关税税则委员会今天发布公告,2025年4月10日,美国政府宣布对中国输美商品征收“对等关税”的税率进一步提高至125%。美方对华加征畸高关税,严重违反国际经贸规则,也违背基本的经济规律和常识,完全是单边霸凌胁迫做法。

根据《中华人民共和国关税法》、《中华人民共和国海关法》、《中华人民共和国对外贸易法》等法律法规和国际法基本原则,经国务院批准,自2025年4月12日起,调整对原产于美国的进口商品加征关税措施。有关事项如下:

一、调整《国务院关税税则委员会关于调整对原产于美国的进口商品加征关税措施的公告》(税委会公告2025年第5号)规定的加征关税税率,由84%提高至125%。鉴于在目前关税水平下,美国输华商品已无市场接受可能性,如果美方后续对中国输美商品继续加征关税,中方将不予理会。

二、其他事项按照《国务院关税税则委员会关于对原产于美国的进口商品加征关税的公告》(税委会公告2025年第4号)执行。


不是敢不敢,其实是没有意义了。 而且这样跟着个傻子喊数字,显得自己也是个二傻子。
 
最高端的芯片需求量有限, 消费级8nm以下都可以自己设计制造, 而且现在性能可以追平高通, 这几年土共用撒电动车方式大撒币给芯片, 进步还是有的, 尽管突破3nm目前看来很困难, 但是用于战争跟民用保底没问题
美国天天吵着要把台积电搬过去, 现成的东西搬过去了, 几年下来还是没什么进步, 这就是差距, 一样砸钱, 美国从上到下损耗跟成本太厉害了, 川普想用休克疗法止损有些天真
 
最后编辑:
中方145封顶不再回应。川王继续每天递增20,看中方不再有动静,宣称米国是winner,maga举国上下欢庆赢了贸易战。
可怜的maga 被忽悠到坚信是中国付关税, yikes.
 
中方145封顶不再回应。川王继续每天递增20,看中方不再有动静,宣称米国是winner,maga举国上下欢庆赢了贸易战。
可怜的maga 被忽悠到坚信是中国付关税, yikes.
还要说中国害怕了,they want a deal, they want a deal badly, but they don't know how to start. They are hiding, not even dear to respond :dx:
 
不是分析了,老习等很久了,找机会和借口脱离依赖美国,而且中国往价值链高档走。

老大还有绝招,未来可能要求产品中没有中国原料。不过这是漫长的过程
 
我发现 一郎.马斯克 Grok 3 AI 模型很好用啊,数据非常新,问一个问题:川普的贸易战会赢吗?这是回答:
To address whether Trump’s trade war will “win,” we need to define what “winning” means in this context. Trump’s stated goals, based on available information, include reducing trade deficits, bringing manufacturing jobs back to the U.S., and forcing other countries to lower their trade barriers through “reciprocal” tariffs. Let’s break this down by examining the potential outcomes, economic impacts, and global responses as of April 11, 2025, while critically analyzing the situation.


Economic Impacts on the U.S.


Trump’s trade war, which escalated with a 10% baseline tariff on nearly all imports and higher rates on specific countries (e.g., 34% on China, later raised to 145% after earlier levies), has already caused significant economic turbulence. The Tax Foundation estimates that these tariffs will reduce U.S. GDP by 0.2%, shrink the capital stock by 0.1%, and cut 142,000 full-time equivalent jobs in the long run. They also project an average tax increase of $1,900 per U.S. household in 2025, making this the largest tax hike since 1982. This suggests that American consumers are bearing a heavy cost, as tariffs are effectively a tax on imports that gets passed on through higher prices.


The U.S. stock market has been volatile, with the S&P 500 losing nearly $6 trillion in value over a four-day period following the tariff announcements, though a temporary rollback on some tariffs for 90 days led to a 9.5% rally in the S&P 500. Economists like JPMorgan CEO Jamie Dimon and Goldman Sachs’ Jan Hatzius have raised recession odds to 60% and 45%, respectively, citing the tariffs as a major risk. The National Retail Federation warns that higher consumer prices will disproportionately hurt small businesses and local communities. This paints a picture of significant domestic economic strain, which could undermine Trump’s goal of boosting U.S. manufacturing if businesses and consumers cut back on spending.


Global Reactions and Retaliation


The trade war has provoked widespread retaliation. China matched the U.S.’s 34% tariffs with its own and later raised them to 84%, while also restricting exports of rare earth elements critical for U.S. industries like electric vehicles and defense. The European Union approved counter-tariffs starting April 15, 2025, though they paused them to allow for negotiations. Canada imposed a 25% counter-tariff on non-USMCA-compliant U.S. vehicles, and countries like Vietnam (hit with a 46% tariff) are engaging in talks to mitigate the impact. This global pushback suggests that Trump’s strategy of using tariffs as leverage may not force the concessions he hopes for, as foreign leaders face domestic pressure not to appear weak.


Beijing, in particular, seems prepared for a “war of attrition,” with analysts noting that China’s leadership under Xi Jinping can weather economic pain better than the U.S. due to its tightly controlled political system. China’s ability to deploy fiscal and monetary stimulus contrasts with the U.S., where Trump faces electoral pressure and a free media amplifying public discontent. Protests in the U.S. and criticism from Wall Street further highlight the political risks for Trump, whereas Xi faces no such domestic resistance.


Will Trump Achieve His Goals?


  1. Reducing Trade Deficits: Economists argue that Trump’s goal of balancing trade with China is unfeasible in the short-to-medium term. The U.S. is the world’s largest consumer, while China is the leading producer, creating a structural imbalance. Tariffs may reduce imports, but they also disrupt supply chains, raising costs for U.S. businesses and consumers. If other countries find new markets—as China is already doing—the U.S. could lose leverage over time, as some posts on X suggest.
  2. Bringing Back Jobs: The promise of revitalizing U.S. manufacturing is questionable. The Tax Foundation notes that the capital-to-labor ratio remains unchanged in the long run, meaning tariffs won’t boost pre-tax wages. Job losses (142,000 estimated) and higher costs for businesses could offset any gains in manufacturing employment. Moreover, global supply chains are complex—tariffs on intermediate goods (e.g., steel, aluminum) increase production costs for U.S. manufacturers, potentially making them less competitive.
  3. Forcing Concessions: Trump’s tariffs aim to pressure other countries into lowering their trade barriers, but the response has been mixed. While some nations like Vietnam and Singapore are engaging in talks, others like China and the EU are retaliating rather than conceding. The 90-day tariff pause on dozens of countries (except China) suggests Trump may be backtracking under market pressure, but his administration’s insistence on maintaining high tariffs on China (now at 145%) indicates a hardline stance that could prolong the conflict.

Critical Analysis


The establishment narrative, as reflected in sources like The New York Times and Reuters, portrays Trump’s trade war as reckless and economically damaging, with little strategic coherence. However, this view may overlook Trump’s broader political strategy. His tariffs resonate with a domestic audience frustrated by decades of trade imbalances, and his willingness to disrupt the global trade order could force long-term structural changes, even if they come at a short-term cost. On the other hand, critics like the Center for American Progress argue that the tariffs isolate the U.S. on the world stage, weaken economic alliances, and fail to address the root causes of trade deficits, such as currency manipulation or labor cost differences.


A key flaw in Trump’s approach is the assumption that tariffs alone can rebalance trade without addressing domestic factors like U.S. consumption patterns or the dollar’s status as the world’s reserve currency, which encourages imports. Additionally, the tariffs’ blanket application—hitting allies like the EU and Canada alongside adversaries like China—may erode goodwill needed for broader geopolitical goals, such as countering China’s influence.


Conclusion


Trump’s trade war is unlikely to “win” in the sense of achieving its stated economic goals without significant costs. The U.S. economy faces a high risk of recession, job losses, and inflation, while global retaliation and supply chain disruptions could undermine manufacturing gains. Politically, Trump may gain short-term support from his base, but sustained economic pain could erode his position, especially with midterm elections approaching in 2026. China’s resilience and the reluctance of other nations to make public concessions suggest that the trade war may drag on as a costly stalemate rather than a decisive victory. The long-term impact on global trade norms remains uncertain, but as of now, the immediate winners appear to be the few countries navigating the chaos to their advantage, while the U.S. and its consumers bear the brunt of the fallout.
你让它用中文回答岂不更方便
 
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