难以置信,一对中国学生物留学生情侣走私一种植物病原体进美国成头条,是美媒上纲上线,还是两人吃错药?

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有没有懂生物的说说,这两人是否吃错药,结果舆论的效果就是东大恶意生物攻击美国?这又是助攻美国驱逐中国留学生?

还是说两人以为研究一种美国别人拿不到的病原体可以给自己学术或经济利益加码?

Chinese nationals accused of smuggling 'dangerous biological pathogen' into US​

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The two Chinese citizens allegedly sought to use the University of Michigan laboratory to conduct research on the pathogen
Two Chinese nationals have been accused of smuggling a fungus into the US that officials describe as a "dangerous biological pathogen".

Yunqing Jian, 33, and Zunyong Liu, 34, have been charged with conspiracy, smuggling goods, false statements, and visa fraud, the US Attorney's Office for the Eastern District of Michigan announced on Tuesday.

The complaint alleges Mr Liu tried to smuggle the fungus through Detroit airport so he could study it at a University of Michigan laboratory where his girlfriend, Ms Jian, worked.

The fungus called Fusarium graminearum can cause a disease in wheat, barley, maize and rice that can wipe out crops and lead to vomiting and liver damage if it gets into food.
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The fungus is described in scientific literature as a "potential agroterrorism weapon", according to the US Attorney's Office, adding it is responsible for "billions of dollars in economic losses worldwide each year."

Officials further allege Ms Jian received funding from the Chinese government for her research on the pathogen in China. They also claim she is a member of the Chinese Communist Party.

United States Attorney Jerome F Gorgon Jr described the allegations as of the "gravest national security concerns".

"These two aliens have been charged with smuggling a fungus that has been described as a 'potential agroterrorism weapon' into in the [sic] heartland of America, where they apparently intended to use a University of Michigan laboratory to further their scheme."

The investigation was a joint effort between the FBI and US Customs and Border Protection.

Ms Jian is due to appear in court in Detroit, Michigan on Tuesday.

The University of Michigan said in a statement to the BBC that it "has received no funding from the Chinese government in relation to research conducted by the accused individuals".

University officials are cooperating with law enforcement on the investigation and they "strongly condemn any actions that seek to cause harm, threaten national security or undermine the university's critical public mission", according to the statement.

Spokesman for the Chinese embassy in Washington DC Liu Pengyu told the BBC that he is not familiar with this specific case, but emphasized that Beijing "has always required overseas Chinese citizens to abide by local laws and regulations and will also resolutely safeguard their legitimate rights and interests".

The charges come amid strained relations between the US and China, and just days after the Trump administration vowed to "aggressively" revoke the visas of Chinese nationals studying in the US.

Beijing also said Washington "severely violated" a trade truce reached in Geneva last month, when both countries lowered tariffs on goods imported from each other.

Earlier this week, a Chinese student at the University of Michigan was charged for illegally voting in the 2024 election.
 
有没有懂生物的说说,这两人是否吃错药,结果舆论的效果就是东大恶意生物攻击美国?这又是助攻美国驱逐中国留学生?

还是说两人以为研究一种美国别人拿不到的病原体可以给自己学术或经济利益加码?

Chinese nationals accused of smuggling 'dangerous biological pathogen' into US​

2 days ago
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Ali Abbas Ahmadi
BBC News
Getty Images An aerial view of the University of Michigan campus in Ann Arbor, Michigan
Getty Images
The two Chinese citizens allegedly sought to use the University of Michigan laboratory to conduct research on the pathogen
Two Chinese nationals have been accused of smuggling a fungus into the US that officials describe as a "dangerous biological pathogen".

Yunqing Jian, 33, and Zunyong Liu, 34, have been charged with conspiracy, smuggling goods, false statements, and visa fraud, the US Attorney's Office for the Eastern District of Michigan announced on Tuesday.

The complaint alleges Mr Liu tried to smuggle the fungus through Detroit airport so he could study it at a University of Michigan laboratory where his girlfriend, Ms Jian, worked.

The fungus called Fusarium graminearum can cause a disease in wheat, barley, maize and rice that can wipe out crops and lead to vomiting and liver damage if it gets into food.
Advertisement

The fungus is described in scientific literature as a "potential agroterrorism weapon", according to the US Attorney's Office, adding it is responsible for "billions of dollars in economic losses worldwide each year."

Officials further allege Ms Jian received funding from the Chinese government for her research on the pathogen in China. They also claim she is a member of the Chinese Communist Party.

United States Attorney Jerome F Gorgon Jr described the allegations as of the "gravest national security concerns".

"These two aliens have been charged with smuggling a fungus that has been described as a 'potential agroterrorism weapon' into in the [sic] heartland of America, where they apparently intended to use a University of Michigan laboratory to further their scheme."

The investigation was a joint effort between the FBI and US Customs and Border Protection.

Ms Jian is due to appear in court in Detroit, Michigan on Tuesday.

The University of Michigan said in a statement to the BBC that it "has received no funding from the Chinese government in relation to research conducted by the accused individuals".

University officials are cooperating with law enforcement on the investigation and they "strongly condemn any actions that seek to cause harm, threaten national security or undermine the university's critical public mission", according to the statement.

Spokesman for the Chinese embassy in Washington DC Liu Pengyu told the BBC that he is not familiar with this specific case, but emphasized that Beijing "has always required overseas Chinese citizens to abide by local laws and regulations and will also resolutely safeguard their legitimate rights and interests".

The charges come amid strained relations between the US and China, and just days after the Trump administration vowed to "aggressively" revoke the visas of Chinese nationals studying in the US.

Beijing also said Washington "severely violated" a trade truce reached in Geneva last month, when both countries lowered tariffs on goods imported from each other.

Earlier this week, a Chinese student at the University of Michigan was charged for illegally voting in the 2024 election.
你既不是中国人,又不是美国人,关你屁事!?
 
有没有懂生物的说说,这两人是否吃错药,结果舆论的效果就是东大恶意生物攻击美国?这又是助攻美国驱逐中国留学生?

还是说两人以为研究一种美国别人拿不到的病原体可以给自己学术或经济利益加码?

Chinese nationals accused of smuggling 'dangerous biological pathogen' into US​

2 days ago
Share
Save
Ali Abbas Ahmadi
BBC News
Getty Images An aerial view of the University of Michigan campus in Ann Arbor, Michigan
Getty Images
The two Chinese citizens allegedly sought to use the University of Michigan laboratory to conduct research on the pathogen
Two Chinese nationals have been accused of smuggling a fungus into the US that officials describe as a "dangerous biological pathogen".

Yunqing Jian, 33, and Zunyong Liu, 34, have been charged with conspiracy, smuggling goods, false statements, and visa fraud, the US Attorney's Office for the Eastern District of Michigan announced on Tuesday.

The complaint alleges Mr Liu tried to smuggle the fungus through Detroit airport so he could study it at a University of Michigan laboratory where his girlfriend, Ms Jian, worked.

The fungus called Fusarium graminearum can cause a disease in wheat, barley, maize and rice that can wipe out crops and lead to vomiting and liver damage if it gets into food.
Advertisement

The fungus is described in scientific literature as a "potential agroterrorism weapon", according to the US Attorney's Office, adding it is responsible for "billions of dollars in economic losses worldwide each year."

Officials further allege Ms Jian received funding from the Chinese government for her research on the pathogen in China. They also claim she is a member of the Chinese Communist Party.

United States Attorney Jerome F Gorgon Jr described the allegations as of the "gravest national security concerns".

"These two aliens have been charged with smuggling a fungus that has been described as a 'potential agroterrorism weapon' into in the [sic] heartland of America, where they apparently intended to use a University of Michigan laboratory to further their scheme."

The investigation was a joint effort between the FBI and US Customs and Border Protection.

Ms Jian is due to appear in court in Detroit, Michigan on Tuesday.

The University of Michigan said in a statement to the BBC that it "has received no funding from the Chinese government in relation to research conducted by the accused individuals".

University officials are cooperating with law enforcement on the investigation and they "strongly condemn any actions that seek to cause harm, threaten national security or undermine the university's critical public mission", according to the statement.

Spokesman for the Chinese embassy in Washington DC Liu Pengyu told the BBC that he is not familiar with this specific case, but emphasized that Beijing "has always required overseas Chinese citizens to abide by local laws and regulations and will also resolutely safeguard their legitimate rights and interests".

The charges come amid strained relations between the US and China, and just days after the Trump administration vowed to "aggressively" revoke the visas of Chinese nationals studying in the US.

Beijing also said Washington "severely violated" a trade truce reached in Geneva last month, when both countries lowered tariffs on goods imported from each other.

Earlier this week, a Chinese student at the University of Michigan was charged for illegally voting in the 2024 election.
这个就要就事论事

1,美国海关不允许的事不要做
2,违法了应该依法处理,不夸大,不减轻
3,这个病毒在美国很常见:“去年在32个州出现”
 
这个就要就事论事

1,美国海关不允许的事不要做
2,违法了应该依法处理,不夸大,不减轻
3,这个病毒在美国很常见:“去年在32个州出现”
我不是质疑他们这样是否违法, 而是对他们的动机困惑
 
我不是质疑他们这样是否违法, 而是对他们的动机困惑
这个应该是不按正规途径,什么简单什么便宜就选什么,一查就出事

网上有人说有些华人在美国做生物研究之类也是从中国买种子什么的,其实也不符合规范
 
这个应该是不按正规途径,什么简单什么便宜就选什么,一查就出事

网上有人说有些华人在美国做生物研究之类也是从中国买种子什么的,其实也不符合规范

知道那个贺建奎? 就是把他在美国学到的基因重组技术去中国搞基因重组婴儿。 感觉学生物的人,可能对这些特别的种子,病毒,细菌等等特别看重,他们的学术论文或未来的成就,可能就来自这些别人或同行很难得到的东西。

我感觉这事情就是2个学生物的,耍小聪明,其实就是给自己未来的学术前途,增加一些别人没有的东西,成为自己的某种竞争优势。

但一旦被抓住,那就太容易被上纲上线了, 现在美国很多媒体对此事的定性太吓人,物种灭绝的词都用上了。
 
我不是质疑他们这样是否违法, 而是对他们的动机困惑
这种事情,动机是什么根本不会左右严重性。

你现在跑到天安门广场,用可乐瓶装点水洗洗头,你的动机只是洗洗头,好玩而已,后果恐怕会远超你的想象。而且抓捕你的时候根本不会有人来听你的动机。

新冠病毒的泄露,跟动机有关系么?可能一开始人家只是想用实验动物卖两个钱,补贴一下家用,根本没有存心掀起全球的疫情,更没想害死那么多人。结果呢?

这就是所有的生化实验室都有严格的规定,无论你的动机是什么,必须严格遵守。

中美情侣这件事情,动机是什么根本左右不了结果。如果他们本来就是学生物化学的,那就更没什么动机可言了。因为他们会比一般群众更懂得这里面的危险性。
 
这种事情,动机是什么根本不会左右严重性。

你现在跑到天安门广场,用可乐瓶装点水洗洗头,你的动机只是洗洗头,好玩而已,后果恐怕会远超你的想象。而且抓捕你的时候根本不会有人来听你的动机。

新冠病毒的泄露,跟动机有关系么?可能一开始人家只是想用实验动物卖两个钱,补贴一下家用,根本没有存心掀起全球的疫情,更没想害死那么多人。结果呢?

这就是所有的生化实验室都有严格的规定,无论你的动机是什么,必须严格遵守。

中美情侣这件事情,动机是什么根本左右不了结果。如果他们本来就是学生物化学的,那就更没什么动机可言了。因为他们会比一般群众更懂得这里面的危险性。
我不是给他们找理由,开罪。

入境任何国家对物种,种子,病毒都有明确规定。

就说平常人,经常带腌制食品入境吧,都不是中国人的专利,世界各国的移民都或多或少会有类似的违规行为,如果抽查被抓住就是几百甚至上千的罚款处罚

这两人算是准专业人员,带这些东西,罪责肯定比带金华火腿的要严重的多,加上现在中美贸易大战,自然被枪打出头鸟。

现在的大环境下,如果别的国家的移民或学生偷带这些东西,被关注或被严打的程度要远远低于中国的。就是这个简单的道理
 
我不是给他们找理由,开罪。

入境任何国家对物种,种子,病毒都有明确规定。

就说平常人,经常带腌制食品入境吧,都不是中国人的专利,世界各国的移民都或多或少会有类似的违规行为,如果抽查被抓住就是几百甚至上千的罚款处罚

这两人算是准专业人员,带这些东西,罪责肯定比带金华火腿的要严重的多,加上现在中美贸易大战,自然被枪打出头鸟。

现在的大环境下,如果别的国家的移民或学生偷带这些东西,被关注或被严打的程度要远远低于中国的。就是这个简单的道理
既然是这种大环境,那么这两人的行为岂不是送上去给人抓的吗?而且因为这两人的专业背景,更不可能去强调他俩的动机单纯,无心之失了。别人还可能是无心之失,你俩这是专业人士,深知这么做的严重性,却就这么做了,这哪里是什么出头鸟?根本就是故意的。

如果更阴谋论一点的话,我甚至可以怀疑这两个华裔血统的所谓“中国人”,是不是美国人买通了来演戏,栽赃华裔,坑害华人的。
 
这个案件,就跟前些时,那几个父母亲打死自己孩子一样。在中国,大家会强调动机:虽然孩子被打死了,但是动手的父母动机是好的,是为了孩子好,只不过不小心打死了孩子。

用动机来开脱,忽视客观危害性,这是几千年人治的习惯性思维。

换个国家,恐怕就很难用动机来做文章了,不管你是不是为孩子好,还是其他什么原因,你打死了孩子就是不对。

反观这对中国情侣,既然接受了科学的训练,拥有了专业知识,再做出这种行为,那就怎么都说不过去了。

再进一步,如楼主所说,考虑到当今的中美大环境下,敢问两位做出此举,意欲何为?递刀子递得这么猖狂吗?
 
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