为何中国无法逆向EUV 专家解密:那不是砸钱工程

[welcomelm]

https://info.51.ca/articles/1497132?from=51hp

 

[茶马盐铁]

别费劲了，已经逆向成功了！

现在正在准备量产。

 

[RareEarth]

果然是砖家，扎了个稻草人。中国没有完全逆向 EUV 。只是把通过各种渠道搞到了关键部件整合起来了。

 

[metropolis]

https://info.51.ca/articles/1497132?from=51hp

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路透社：中国“曼哈顿计划”造了EUV

2025-12-17

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/how-china-built-its-manhattan-project-rival-west-ai-chips-2025-12-17/

Exclusive: How China built its ‘Manhattan Project’ to rival the West in AI chips

Shenzhen team completed a working prototype of a EUV machine in early 2025, sources say
The lithography machine, built by former ASML engineers, fills a factory floor, sources say
China's EUV machine is undergoing testing, and has not produced working chips, sources say
Government is targeting 2028 for working chips, but sources say 2030 is more likely

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[urus]

甭管是攒的， 还是逆向出来的。 我看到的报道是已经成功了。

这种事情， 你们操心个屁啊！ 本来就是一个时间问题。

 

[jy]

看来只会是正向了。

 

[superlover]

https://info.51.ca/articles/1497132?from=51hp

"自由屎报又来造谣。DUV良品率早突破90%，EUV出来了而且根本和逆向无关"

 

[billwanhua]

View: https://medium.com/@mrsandelin/china-just-pulled-its-own-manhattan-project-and-no-one-saw-it-coming-90bda336fd15


Western semiconductor security strategy rested on two pillars. The “silicon shield” thesis: Taiwan’s dominance in advanced chip manufacturing makes invasion counterproductive. And export controls: block ASML from selling EUV systems to China, problem contained.

Both pillars shared a hidden assumption. That knowledge lives in machines, not people.

ASML’s EUV systems contain over 100,000 components. The mirrors must be accurate to 50 picometers — roughly the width of an atom. The plasma source fires 50,000 tin droplets per second, each vaporized by a 30-kilowatt laser. This complexity was supposed to be the moat.

But every specification exists because humans figured it out. The machine is crystallized knowledge. The humans are the source.