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本人欲抵多市。一家三口,有一个三岁小孩。先生欲读大学。请问该带什么东西和证书到加国比较合适?多谢各位。:D
 
你们什么时候走?
能带的都带上,特别是孩子的东西,要准备的多一些,孩子吃的穿的,
不要带毛毯,太厚的内衣。
准备上学带点新东方的TOEFL,GMAT资料,TORONTO很贵,还买不到。到时自己不要,卖掉也很划算。
 
来干啥啊?? 还是别来了。这边的情况也不是不知道。女人小孩,老弱病残,没有劳动能力的来加拿大还算适合。

看看下面最近的文章就知道了。(昨天《多伦多星报》)

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Apr. 21, 2004

Turned away from every door


Carol Goar [Toronto Star]

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Co...geid=971358637177&c=Article&cid=1082499012959

In spite of all he's been through, Muhammad Usman Ali thinks Canada is a beautiful country.

The Pakistani lawyer wishes he'd never come here. He'll warn other professionals in his homeland not to expect a warm welcome in Canada. He'll return to Peshawar this summer, chastened and hurt.

But he refuses to make harsh generalizations. "I don't think badly of all Canadians or of Canada in general. It is a beautiful place. I met some wonderful people. But as an immigrant, you knock at every door and you're always turned away."

Ali and his wife Nisa agreed to tell their story in their threadbare Mississauga apartment to make other newcomers feel less alone and to persuade Canadian immigration authorities to stop deceiving foreign professionals about the life that awaits them here.

The couple had done well in Pakistan. Ali, 44, was deputy registrar and director of legal affairs at the University of Peshawar, one of the top-ranked academic institutions in South Asia. Nisa, 40, was a chemistry lecturer working on her Ph.D.

They had a comfortable house, two cars and parents who were proud of their success. But they dreamt of giving their children more.

Canada, they had heard, had the best education system in the world. It had a Charter of Rights that forbade discrimination on the basis of race or religion. And it needed highly skilled workers.

In March, 2000, they applied to immigrate at the Canadian High Commission. They were fluent in English (and spoke five other languages). They had the $20,000 the Canadian government requires to cover their settlement costs. And they were willing to leave everything behind: Family, friends, academic prestige, secure jobs.

Looking back, Nisa recalls a remark that struck her as odd at the time. One of the officers said: "I don't want your husband to drive a taxi."

She assured him that they were both willing to upgrade their qualifications to get into their professions; Ali as a lawyer or university administrator, Nisa as a chemistry professor or teacher.

They arrived in Toronto on July 12, 2002, found a two-bedroom apartment through Pakistani contacts and immediately enrolled in training courses. Nisa earned an Ontario teaching certificate. Ali took a nine-month course in education administration.

They began their job searches full of confidence. But both faced rejection after rejection. Sometimes they were told they lacked Canadian experience. More often, their requests for interviews went unanswered and their follow-up calls elicited chilly rebuffs.

They were puzzled at first, then frustrated, then desperate.

In October of 2003, with their money running out, Ali took a job as a loader in a grocery warehouse. The pay was $10 an hour. His shift began at midnight and ended whenever the supervisor sent him home.

At the warehouse, he met eight other South Asian professionals ― five civil engineers, a mechanical engineer, a computer programmer and an agricultural scientist ― whose plights were similar to his. All had lost everything in their quest for a better future.

He quickly learned the unwritten rules of the shop floor. The immigrants got heavier loads and shorter shifts than their Canadian counterparts. They were accused of being supporters of Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein. When they complained, they were told to go back where they came from. "You could feel the hatred," Ali said. "There may be a Charter of Rights, but it wasn't reflected in our experience."

In early April, after protesting once too often, the nine were fired.

Ali and Nisa have decided not to stay in Canada.

Nisa will leave on May 22 with their 3-year-old son, Aqdas, and stay with her parents until she can rent a house in Peshawar. Ali will follow with the older two children, 14-year-old Naaimah and 12-year-old Wahhaj, when the school year is over and the family's affairs are wound up.

"We are victims of our dreams," Ali said. "But we never abused the system. Even when our money ran out, we did not ask for social assistance."

"All of our skills are nothing here," said Nisa. "We were willing to start at the bottom, but they wouldn't even allow us to do that."

The couple's parents and friends know little of what happened in Canada. Ali and Nisa kept their communications vague and reassuring. They said the children were doing well in school, Ali was working and Nisa was looking for a job.

They hope no one back home will ever find out the whole humiliating truth. "We will hide whatever you publish," Ali said.

But they feel they owe it to other starry-eyed immigrants to lay bare their experience. And they'd like to prod the Canadian government into either suspending the recruitment of highly skilled immigrants or giving newcomers the support they need to integrate into the workforce.

Occasionally, Ali still finds himself fantasizing about the land of opportunity that he expected to find here.

He caught glimpses of it during his two years in Canada. But he was always an outsider looking in.
 
我打算10月来多市。楼上的朋友有何建议?我也在想该不该来。我有的朋友拿了签证后又打退堂鼓。我在国内一月一挣1000元,该不该来?
 
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我打算10月来多市。楼上的朋友有何建议?我也在想该不该来。我有的朋友拿了签证后又打退堂鼓。我在国内一月一挣1000元,该不该来?

一月挣一千人民钱??那还是可以来的。

在国内也是接近社会底层,来这儿更是他妈社会底层,加拿大社会底层比中国社会底层日子好一些。
 
早点出发,最好是六七月份,可以看看T的国庆节,T的人怎么过。六月到十月,是加最美的季节。
不知你们是南方还是北方的,如果是南方的,千万不要等到十月再去,否则会熬不下去的,
我是冬天去的,现在在国内。在加拿大去玩了一大圈,就回国了。
 
带笔记本电脑我就准备带一个过去!
带一二条烟卖也较划算,哈哈
 
棒棒狗的mama,手提电脑带去能用吗?会不会有电压或制式等问题?香烟让带出关或加国让出关吗?还带点什么东西去卖比较划算?
 
电脑能用的可能的话还是带一个来好,香烟2条没问题,多了我就不知道了。你如果到多论多或是渥太华长的羽绒服要带,冬天穿的最多的就是它了,第一个冬天如果不准备买车,防雪鞋要带,另外就是衣服什么的能带多少就带多少,如果想带被子之类的东西,建议不要带厚的,即使冬天室内温度也在25左右(我家冬天都窗短衣,短裤,我住APARMENT)如果住HOUSE 的话,温度可能会底点,还有带运动型的衣服,因为夏天户外活动比较多。
还有你所说的带什么证书之类的,你有的都带过来把,反正也占不了多大地方,如果想过来在申请的话,先把申请资料准备好,节约时间,比如成绩单开好,公章盖好,如果是要从学校直接寄到所申请学校的资料(中,英文成绩单盖鲜章,信封封口处也要盖鲜章)也准备好,在有如果有推荐信也带着。如果以后你已经不在国内,让别人帮你办的话,会比较拖时间。
希望能帮到你,
祝好运
 
谢谢楼上的朋友,你已经帮我很多啦!
还有一个问题,坛子里都在说学“CO-OP”,这是什么课程?有什么用处?学几年?毕业后好找工作吗?
 
you could bring books ,in Canada the book price in china is RMB,you carry them into Canada ,they
will become Canada dollars,but the price mumbers are the same.
i just check in the Dell notebook computer ,the tax in china is 17%,but that of Canada is 15%,the china's is more expensive than the Canada's.you think it by youself.
 
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谢谢楼上的朋友,你已经帮我很多啦!
还有一个问题,坛子里都在说学“CO-OP”,这是什么课程?有什么用处?学几年?毕业后好找工作吗?
CO-OP 也就是我们说的实习。
要看你所学的专业,有的专业有CO-OP ,有的没有,有的在你CO-OP 期间会PAY 你,有的不PAY ,毕业的早晚要看你是否转学分,转多少,有了CO-OP 机会就是有了工作经验,所以很多人说会比不做CO-OP 的人好找,但是也不确定,这要看人,看机遇,说不好。
 
各位大侠不要教唆别人一来就一脑门子钻个学校去上个什么学。除非事主本人自己特别有什么兴趣做什么方面的研究或深造。或者本来就是学术型的人才。

应该多接触社会,多尝试在自己的专业领域内寻找机会发挥自己的才能以及向社会推销自己。这样才锻炼一个人的才能;这也是远度重洋另闯天下的意义和乐趣所在。

不经过一番拼搏和磨练直接找个大学钻进去消磨时光是没出息的,胆小、懦弱的行为。(再重复一遍,除非自己特别有什么兴趣做什么方面的研究或深造。或者本来就是学术型的人才。)

各个人的机遇和才能不同,不要因为普遍工作难找、很多人都没能在社会上立足就把别人也归纳到这个框框里去了,藏身大学逃避社会竞争并不明智。
 
也对也不对。“各个人的机遇和才能不同“,所以各位也不一定是“教唆“。
 
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