[转贴] 国家要爱自己的国民

[ltw]

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转自海归网：作者 hellohello

我所担忧的主要不是爱国主义,而是"国爱"主义,也就是国家要爱自己的国民!

中国人之所以朝国外跑和留后路,根子不在缺乏爱国主义,而是缺乏"国爱"主义,也就是国家(以政府的表现形式)给予各个阶层的大多数国民以机会,照顾和保护,对于富人要保护其合法财产神圣不可侵犯,对于穷人要让他们有基本的体面的生活条件,同时社会制度要保证人人都有合法致富和向上流社会爬的机会.对于自己的国民要在犯罪,内乱,自然灾害,国际冲突乃至战争时给予及时充分的保护,使他们有安全感,对于保护平民和保卫国家的人要给予丰厚的物质回报和荣誉激励.
有了这样的"国爱"主义,爱国主义才成为国民发自内心的自然选择.
而这恰恰不是只靠资本主义理论的人人赚钱欲望和自私本能所能够解决的了的. 中国现在根本不缺人人赚钱的欲望,人人也都捞想一把,但只要上述的国爱主义不确立,政府不能建立一种机制使得大家都有机会也都有基本的安全感和生活保障,那这种捞一把的机会将永远只同少数人结缘,而这少数人也仍然会随时准备从中国开溜,那缺乏机会的人就更是想跑了.

我很感谢大家的回帖,但从大家的回帖看许多朋友没有真正理解我的用意,以为我在指责海归捞一把就走,其实我的目的是在于中国的"国爱"主义之缺乏,爱国主义问题只不过是一个衍生产品而已.

有句话说:没有不好的学生,只有不好的老师. 我借用一下就是:没有不好的国民,只有不好的国家;没有不好的海归,只有不好的龟巢.
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My two cents:
好像某位美国总统说过：Don't ask what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country!!!

 

[京都球侠]

The author said exactly right. And personally I think 国家要爱自己的国民is the key problem now in 中国.

Up!

 

[子龙]

我只知道：人不嫌母丑，狗不嫌家贫。

 

[Xiaomimi]

最初由 子龙 发布
我只知道：人不嫌母丑，狗不嫌家贫。

Your country (let's say China) is neither your mother nor your home. It's more like your company: if you were treated well, stay, if not, leave. Love a country is simply stupid.

The founding fathers of America expressed this very clearly. It justified the declaretion of independence from Britain.

 

[一把手]

最初由 Xiaomimi 发布


Your country (let's say China) is neither your mother nor your home. It's more like your company: if you were treated well, stay, if not, leave. Love a country is simply stupid.

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Agree.

Especially stupid when someone was actually refering to government, not even a country.

 

[lifeisfun]

最初由 Xiaomimi 发布


Your country (let's say China) is neither your mother nor your home. It's more like your company: if you were treated well, stay, if not, leave. Love a country is simply stupid.

The founding fathers of America expressed this very clearly. It justified the declaretion of independence from Britain.

Well, I don't feel that there is anything wrong to say your country is like your home. The problem is that just because that your country doesn't treat you as a family member, then you don't feel that it's your home, or like you said, it's not proper to say your country is
your home. But ideally, we would like our country be our home and to achieve that the country should take care of its members, not just request his member to love it.

 

[soldier]

最初由 子龙 发布
我只知道：人不嫌母丑，狗不嫌家贫。

我也知道: 虎毒不食子。
我还知道: 如果不是有人"嫌母丑"，咱们现在脑袋后面没准还拖着猪尾巴。

 

[阿童木]

最初由 lifeisfun 发布


Well, I don't feel that there is anything wrong to say your country is like your home. The problem is that just because that your country doesn't treat you as a family member, then you don't feel that it's your home, or like you said, it's not proper to say your country is
your home. But ideally, we would like our country be our home and to achieve that the country should take care of its members, not just request his member to love it.

Worse yet, not your own home, actually your cousin's home (but happen live next to you). He think he is the only and real legit one from the ancestor. You should use his last name and fold under his control while he is abusing his own children in his own backyard. And worse yet, if you want to call it stop and try to strike on your own, then he insists use violence to keep you in check and even it means to kill his own relatives.

Love lives first, then we can talk about respect & prosperity.

 

[潜水艇]

不管国家如何对待我们，那还是我们的国家。
缺少国爱？自爱吧！
在中国要像狼一样的生活。
爱你的家人，保护你的朋友，广结利益同盟。你同样可以活得很滋润，如果你是食物链上层的话。千万别掉到下层，那里是无间地狱！

 

[阿童木]

最初由 mat 发布
不管国家如何对待我们，那还是我们的国家。
缺少国爱？自爱吧！
在中国要像狼一样的生活。
爱你的家人，保护你的朋友，广结利益同盟。你同样可以活得很滋润，如果你是食物链上层的话。千万别掉到下层，那里是无间地狱！

Not everyone wants to live like that so what advice to people who do not want to live like that. Leave China? Or not call themselves Chinese?

I really do NOT think this is in our culture to live like this. No sane people in the world, will let this define their way of life.

 

[Wanderer]

最初由 子龙 发布
我只知道：人不嫌母丑，狗不嫌家贫。

听过一首歌叫：党啊，亲爱的妈妈。
听过一首诗叫：祖国啊，我可爱的母亲。

妈妈就是母亲。谁敢说她们“丑”？

 

[一把手]

最初由 Wanderer 发布


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最初由 子龙 发布
我只知道：人不嫌母丑，狗不嫌家贫。
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听过一首歌叫：党啊，亲爱的妈妈。
听过一首诗叫：祖国啊，我可爱的母亲。

妈妈就是母亲。谁敢说她们“丑”？

呵呵, 其实他只是不明说,但还是隐含的嫌"丑".
要不,谁见过真有人标榜自己"子不嫌母丑"的? 那不是明着糟贱他自己的妈,说自己的妈丑吗?
好家伙, 他一句话,把母亲和祖国全糟贱了, 毒.

 

[Caohaoying]

公司不好,就跳吧.天经地义.大不了承认对公司有点感情.
别动不动就爱来爱去的.剃头挑子一头热啊.

 

[土鳖虫]

最初由 msft 发布


呵呵, 其实他只是不明说,但还是隐含的嫌"丑".
要不,谁见过真有人标榜自己"子不嫌母丑"的? 那不是明着糟贱他自己的妈,说自己的妈丑吗?
好家伙, 他一句话,把母亲和祖国全糟贱了, 毒.

人家说一声不嫌母丑，你就上挂了祖国，下联了政府。你要不说出来，大家还不知道
你的母丑跟你对祖国和政府的仇恨还有这么强烈的相关系数。也难怪，愤民嘛，什
么事都要上挂下联，否则还怎么当好狗腿子？

 

[土鳖虫]

最初由 Wanderer 发布


听过一首歌叫：党啊，亲爱的妈妈。
听过一首诗叫：祖国啊，我可爱的母亲。

妈妈就是母亲。谁敢说她们“丑”？

这些歌在中国已经没人唱了，但在甘当狗腿子的愤民们（愤怒的民主斗士）那里，那
歌词其实变成了：洋人啊，你是干爹；老美啊，你是洋爸。不信，你让大家看看你
敢批评老美吗？