And when I say bilingualism, I mean in the "Canadian sense" of English and French.
http://www.raspberryxpress.com/Bill S-4.htm
http://www.raspberryxpress.com/Bill S-4.htm
How do most Chinese feel about bilingualism?
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Unfair. Master English is hard enough. How can you master French again?
It basically excluded new immigrants ever have a chance to work for the Fed and get promoted.
And it excluded your offspring to work for Fed and get promoted if you ever want your Child to learn your native language instead of French.
Granted your child is smart enought to master to learn Enlish, French and your own native language, what's the chance she/he have enough time and brain energy to learn other things and excel in other field??
So, Forget the Fed government. It is designed to belong to the French.
It basically excluded new immigrants ever have a chance to work for the Fed and get promoted.
And it excluded your offspring to work for Fed and get promoted if you ever want your Child to learn your native language instead of French.
Granted your child is smart enought to master to learn Enlish, French and your own native language, what's the chance she/he have enough time and brain energy to learn other things and excel in other field??
So, Forget the Fed government. It is designed to belong to the French.
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IMHO, there is absolutely no need for bilingualism in Canada. How many people are really bilingual in Canada, 1%, 5%? The last PM can't even speak decent English, wasn't that a shame for the majority of Canadian? Also, Quebec should be an independent, if they wish to be. I don't see any damage to get rid of it. At least, we could expect the next PM to speak better English ;-))))
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Trillingualism
To all Chinese, Billingualism requirement here in Canada is actually Trillingualism whether you speak Mandarin or Cantonese in the first place. To ask a person fluently speak three languages other than his/her career knowledge is way too much. Yet, everybody here has to "respect" the fact that both English and French are official languages here in Canada, like it or not. We have to accept the fact that most government employees we deal with are French and usually take us a while to scribble down their name. We have to accept the fact that half of the most information booklets are useless and can be either recycled or used as toilet paper. We have to follow the game rule that government only hires people who can speak French even they have a strong accent in English. And we have to bear with the long waiting time and the so-called efficiency as most of these employees are taking coffee breaks or are smoking or are taking vocation again, or are wining and dining somewhere.
The biggest advocator for Billingualism is Stephan Dion, who wants to make bilingualism mandatory for all Canadian cities. Guess he never travelled as far as west of Ottawa, not to mention Vancouver. Poor Mr. Dion, go practise your English first, if you want to make yourself understood by vast majority of Canadian. Or you can keep dreaming that everyone else will start learning French to be able to listen to you talk, keep dreaming........
To all Chinese, Billingualism requirement here in Canada is actually Trillingualism whether you speak Mandarin or Cantonese in the first place. To ask a person fluently speak three languages other than his/her career knowledge is way too much. Yet, everybody here has to "respect" the fact that both English and French are official languages here in Canada, like it or not. We have to accept the fact that most government employees we deal with are French and usually take us a while to scribble down their name. We have to accept the fact that half of the most information booklets are useless and can be either recycled or used as toilet paper. We have to follow the game rule that government only hires people who can speak French even they have a strong accent in English. And we have to bear with the long waiting time and the so-called efficiency as most of these employees are taking coffee breaks or are smoking or are taking vocation again, or are wining and dining somewhere.
The biggest advocator for Billingualism is Stephan Dion, who wants to make bilingualism mandatory for all Canadian cities. Guess he never travelled as far as west of Ottawa, not to mention Vancouver. Poor Mr. Dion, go practise your English first, if you want to make yourself understood by vast majority of Canadian. Or you can keep dreaming that everyone else will start learning French to be able to listen to you talk, keep dreaming........
加拿大的双语制是几百年前为了稳住Quebec的法裔，否则Quebec的法裔回欧洲，当时和加拿大对立的美国就会趁虚而入。
现在取消双语，会加强魁独势力，如果Quebec独立，东三省就会被从加拿大隔开，经济上依赖美国的东三省(东三省有很多美国大型企业)也会脱离加拿大，并加入美国，而西部诸省也曾放过话: 如果Quebec和东三省独立或脱离，他们也会效法。如果Quebec独立，渥太华就不会再是加拿大首都了，因为首都不可能在边境上。到时候，加拿大就只剩下中部和北部几个省了。
现在的法裔有利用双语制的嫌疑/事实。
现在取消双语，会加强魁独势力，如果Quebec独立，东三省就会被从加拿大隔开，经济上依赖美国的东三省(东三省有很多美国大型企业)也会脱离加拿大，并加入美国，而西部诸省也曾放过话: 如果Quebec和东三省独立或脱离，他们也会效法。如果Quebec独立，渥太华就不会再是加拿大首都了，因为首都不可能在边境上。到时候，加拿大就只剩下中部和北部几个省了。
现在的法裔有利用双语制的嫌疑/事实。
This might help a bit
Population by mother tongue(2001 Census)
Total Population 29,639,035
Single responses1 29,257,885
English 17,352,315
French 6,703,325
Non-official languages 5,202,245
Chinese 853,745
Cantonese 322,315
Mandarin 101,790
Hakka 4,565
Chinese, n.o.s. 425,085
Italian 469,485
German 438,080
Polish 208,375
Spanish 245,495
Portuguese 213,815
Punjabi 271,220
Ukrainian 148,085
Arabic 199,940
Dutch 128,670
Tagalog (Pilipino) 174,060
Greek 120,360
Vietnamese 122,055
Cree 72,885
Inuktitut (Eskimo) 29,010
Other non-official languages 1,506,965
Multiple responses2 381,145
English and French 112,575
English and non-official language 219,860
French and non-official language 38,630
English, French and non-official language 10,085
BTW, what is Hakka and Cree?
Population by mother tongue(2001 Census)
Total Population 29,639,035
Single responses1 29,257,885
English 17,352,315
French 6,703,325
Non-official languages 5,202,245
Chinese 853,745
Cantonese 322,315
Mandarin 101,790
Hakka 4,565
Chinese, n.o.s. 425,085
Italian 469,485
German 438,080
Polish 208,375
Spanish 245,495
Portuguese 213,815
Punjabi 271,220
Ukrainian 148,085
Arabic 199,940
Dutch 128,670
Tagalog (Pilipino) 174,060
Greek 120,360
Vietnamese 122,055
Cree 72,885
Inuktitut (Eskimo) 29,010
Other non-official languages 1,506,965
Multiple responses2 381,145
English and French 112,575
English and non-official language 219,860
French and non-official language 38,630
English, French and non-official language 10,085
BTW, what is Hakka and Cree?
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It's not a discrimination to Chinese or other immigrants only. Many white people can't speak French too.
A white guy even complained being a white, being a male, being a non-gay, being a English speaker, he's the most discriminated person, because he's not in any "minority" group and couldn't get any special treatment in employment.
Yeah, he's getting old and new graduates are taking the rest positions.
A white guy even complained being a white, being a male, being a non-gay, being a English speaker, he's the most discriminated person, because he's not in any "minority" group and couldn't get any special treatment in employment.
Yeah, he's getting old and new graduates are taking the rest positions.
