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参照以上联接，我们有着同样的问题，多多交流
参照以上联接，我们有着同样的问题，多多交流
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honda 关于这个问题有一个recall,
如果没问题你可以不管它，
如果读码，应该是P1457,
猜是honda设计问题，但honda不承认，说是
美国北部和加拿大冬天路上撒盐，造成油箱上的一个vavle生锈，
但2003年以后的车就没此问题。不是设计失误是什么？
我也有一个honda accord, 2002年的，现在没问题，不去管它。
你去查honda 的 Automotive recalls and technical service bulletin for 你的车。
你不问，honda不会主动告诉你，你告诉车行有recall,应该免费给你修。
我没试过，你自己试试吧。
试好了，贴出来，对我们大家都有帮助。
如果没问题你可以不管它，
如果读码，应该是P1457,
猜是honda设计问题，但honda不承认，说是
美国北部和加拿大冬天路上撒盐，造成油箱上的一个vavle生锈，
但2003年以后的车就没此问题。不是设计失误是什么？
我也有一个honda accord, 2002年的，现在没问题，不去管它。
你去查honda 的 Automotive recalls and technical service bulletin for 你的车。
你不问，honda不会主动告诉你，你告诉车行有recall,应该免费给你修。
我没试过，你自己试试吧。
试好了，贴出来，对我们大家都有帮助。
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Service Bulletin
2003 American Honda Motor Co., Inc. ? All Rights Reserved ATB 24880 (0301) 1 of 2
CUSTOMER INFORMATION: The information in this bulletin is intended for use only by skilled technicians who have the proper tools, equipment,
and training to correctly and safely maintain your vehicle. These procedures should not be attempted by “do-it-yourselfers,” and you should not assume
this bulletin applies to your vehicle, or that your vehicle has the condition described. To determine whether this information applies, contact an
authorized Honda automobile dealer.
January 28, 2003
03-001
Applies To: See VEHICLES AFFECTED
MIL Comes On With DTC P1457: EVAP Bypass Solenoid Valve Failure
SYMPTOM
The MIL is on, and DTC P1457 [leak detected in EVAP
control system (EVAP control canister system)] is set.
PROBABLE CAUSE
The EVAP bypass solenoid valve can fail due to
corrosion. The solenoid valve may get water inside. If
the water contains road salt, the solenoid windings
could corrode, causing the valve to fail. In a few rare
instances, the corrosion could be severe enough to
cause an internal short in the solenoid valve, which
could damage the ECM/PCM. If this happens, both the
bypass solenoid valve and the ECM/PCM would need
to be replaced.
Vehicles driven in the Northeastern part of the U.S. are
more likely to have this problem because of the salting
of roads during the winter months. Vehicles driven
where salt is not used on the roads are much less likely
to have this problem.
VEHICLES AFFECTED
1998?02 Accord
1998?00 Civic
1998?01 CR-V
2000?02 Insight
1999?03 Odyssey
2003 Pilot
2000?03 S2000
CORRECTIVE ACTION
Test and, if necessary, replace the EVAP bypass
solenoid valve. Replace the ECM/PCM if needed.
PARTS INFORMATION
Refer to the parts catalog for the appropriate part
number and Honda code.
WARRANTY CLAIM INFORMATION
In warranty: The normal warranty applies.
Failed Part: EVAP Bypass Solenoid Valve:
P/N 17012-S01-A00
H/C 5999016
ECM/PCM:
P/N 37820-P2P-A12
H/C 6104426
Defect Code: 072
Contention Code: C01
Skill Level: Repair Technician
Out of warranty: Any repair performed after warranty
expiration may be eligible for goodwill consideration by
the District Parts and Service Manager or your Zone
Office. You must request consideration, and get a
decision, before starting work.
OP# Description FRT
123505 Retrieve the DTC. Store the immobilizer
system key codes.
Write the DTC in the ECU field of the
warranty claim form.
0.6
124100 Replace the EVAP bypass solenoid valve. 0.4
121100 Replace the ECM/PCM.
1998?02 Accord 0.4
1998?00 Civic 0.3
1998?01 CR-V 0.3
2000?02 Insight 0.3
1999?03 Odyssey 0.4
2003 Pilot 0.4
2000?03 S2000 0.3
2 of 2 03-001
REPAIR PROCEDURE
1. Connect the PGM Tester to the 16P data link
connector.
2. Turn the ignition switch to ON (II). Turn on the PGM
Tester.
3. From the PROGRAM MENU screen, select
HONDA SYSTEMS.
4. From the SYSTEM SELECT screen, select
1: PGM-FI.
5. From the TEST MODE MENU screen, select
6: INSPECTION.
6. From the INSPECTION MENU screen, select
2: EVAP TEST.
7. From the EVAP TEST MENU, select 1: SINGLE
SOLENOIDS.
8. From the SINGLE SOLENOIDS MENU, activate
the EVAP bypass solenoid valve. Listen for a click
and feel for a light tap from the solenoid valve as
you activate it.
• If you can hear the solenoid valve click or feel it
tap when activated, disregard this service
bulletin, and look for other possible causes.
• If you cannot hear the solenoid valve click or feel
it tap when activated, go to step 9.
9. Replace the EVAP bypass solenoid valve (see
section 11 of the appropriate service manual).
10. Test the new solenoid valve with the PGM Tester.
• If you can hear the solenoid valve click or feel it
tap when activated, go to step 15 or 16 as
appropriate.
• If you cannot hear the solenoid valve click or feel
it tap when activated, go to step 11.
11. Check the wire harness and the connectors for
damage.
• If you find any damage, repair it, then go to
step 12.
• If you find no damage in the wire harness or
connectors, go to step 13.
12. Test the solenoid valve again with the PGM Tester.
• If you can hear the solenoid valve click or feel it
tap when activated, go to step 15 or 16 as
appropriate.
• If you cannot hear the solenoid valve click or feel
it tap when activated, go to step 13.
13. Replace the ECM/PCM (see section 11 of the
appropriate service manual).
14. Use the PGM Tester to retest the solenoid valve.
• If you can hear the solenoid valve click or feel it
tap when activated, go to step 15 or 16 as
appropriate.
• If you still cannot hear the solenoid valve click or
feel it tap when activated, continue with normal
troubleshooting.
15. Insight only: Disconnect the PGM Tester, and
return the vehicle to your customer.
16. All other affected models: Use the PGM Tester to
run the EVAP system function test (see
S/B 02-007, EVAP System Function Testing and
Diagnostics With the PGM Tester).
• If the EVAP system passes the function test,
disconnect the PGM Tester, and return the
vehicle to your customer.
• If the EVAP system fails the function test,
continue with normal troubleshooting.
2003 American Honda Motor Co., Inc. ? All Rights Reserved ATB 24880 (0301) 1 of 2
CUSTOMER INFORMATION: The information in this bulletin is intended for use only by skilled technicians who have the proper tools, equipment,
and training to correctly and safely maintain your vehicle. These procedures should not be attempted by “do-it-yourselfers,” and you should not assume
this bulletin applies to your vehicle, or that your vehicle has the condition described. To determine whether this information applies, contact an
authorized Honda automobile dealer.
January 28, 2003
03-001
Applies To: See VEHICLES AFFECTED
MIL Comes On With DTC P1457: EVAP Bypass Solenoid Valve Failure
SYMPTOM
The MIL is on, and DTC P1457 [leak detected in EVAP
control system (EVAP control canister system)] is set.
PROBABLE CAUSE
The EVAP bypass solenoid valve can fail due to
corrosion. The solenoid valve may get water inside. If
the water contains road salt, the solenoid windings
could corrode, causing the valve to fail. In a few rare
instances, the corrosion could be severe enough to
cause an internal short in the solenoid valve, which
could damage the ECM/PCM. If this happens, both the
bypass solenoid valve and the ECM/PCM would need
to be replaced.
Vehicles driven in the Northeastern part of the U.S. are
more likely to have this problem because of the salting
of roads during the winter months. Vehicles driven
where salt is not used on the roads are much less likely
to have this problem.
VEHICLES AFFECTED
1998?02 Accord
1998?00 Civic
1998?01 CR-V
2000?02 Insight
1999?03 Odyssey
2003 Pilot
2000?03 S2000
CORRECTIVE ACTION
Test and, if necessary, replace the EVAP bypass
solenoid valve. Replace the ECM/PCM if needed.
PARTS INFORMATION
Refer to the parts catalog for the appropriate part
number and Honda code.
WARRANTY CLAIM INFORMATION
In warranty: The normal warranty applies.
Failed Part: EVAP Bypass Solenoid Valve:
P/N 17012-S01-A00
H/C 5999016
ECM/PCM:
P/N 37820-P2P-A12
H/C 6104426
Defect Code: 072
Contention Code: C01
Skill Level: Repair Technician
Out of warranty: Any repair performed after warranty
expiration may be eligible for goodwill consideration by
the District Parts and Service Manager or your Zone
Office. You must request consideration, and get a
decision, before starting work.
OP# Description FRT
123505 Retrieve the DTC. Store the immobilizer
system key codes.
Write the DTC in the ECU field of the
warranty claim form.
0.6
124100 Replace the EVAP bypass solenoid valve. 0.4
121100 Replace the ECM/PCM.
1998?02 Accord 0.4
1998?00 Civic 0.3
1998?01 CR-V 0.3
2000?02 Insight 0.3
1999?03 Odyssey 0.4
2003 Pilot 0.4
2000?03 S2000 0.3
2 of 2 03-001
REPAIR PROCEDURE
1. Connect the PGM Tester to the 16P data link
connector.
2. Turn the ignition switch to ON (II). Turn on the PGM
Tester.
3. From the PROGRAM MENU screen, select
HONDA SYSTEMS.
4. From the SYSTEM SELECT screen, select
1: PGM-FI.
5. From the TEST MODE MENU screen, select
6: INSPECTION.
6. From the INSPECTION MENU screen, select
2: EVAP TEST.
7. From the EVAP TEST MENU, select 1: SINGLE
SOLENOIDS.
8. From the SINGLE SOLENOIDS MENU, activate
the EVAP bypass solenoid valve. Listen for a click
and feel for a light tap from the solenoid valve as
you activate it.
• If you can hear the solenoid valve click or feel it
tap when activated, disregard this service
bulletin, and look for other possible causes.
• If you cannot hear the solenoid valve click or feel
it tap when activated, go to step 9.
9. Replace the EVAP bypass solenoid valve (see
section 11 of the appropriate service manual).
10. Test the new solenoid valve with the PGM Tester.
• If you can hear the solenoid valve click or feel it
tap when activated, go to step 15 or 16 as
appropriate.
• If you cannot hear the solenoid valve click or feel
it tap when activated, go to step 11.
11. Check the wire harness and the connectors for
damage.
• If you find any damage, repair it, then go to
step 12.
• If you find no damage in the wire harness or
connectors, go to step 13.
12. Test the solenoid valve again with the PGM Tester.
• If you can hear the solenoid valve click or feel it
tap when activated, go to step 15 or 16 as
appropriate.
• If you cannot hear the solenoid valve click or feel
it tap when activated, go to step 13.
13. Replace the ECM/PCM (see section 11 of the
appropriate service manual).
14. Use the PGM Tester to retest the solenoid valve.
• If you can hear the solenoid valve click or feel it
tap when activated, go to step 15 or 16 as
appropriate.
• If you still cannot hear the solenoid valve click or
feel it tap when activated, continue with normal
troubleshooting.
15. Insight only: Disconnect the PGM Tester, and
return the vehicle to your customer.
16. All other affected models: Use the PGM Tester to
run the EVAP system function test (see
S/B 02-007, EVAP System Function Testing and
Diagnostics With the PGM Tester).
• If the EVAP system passes the function test,
disconnect the PGM Tester, and return the
vehicle to your customer.
• If the EVAP system fails the function test,
continue with normal troubleshooting.
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你的问题没解决，以后每2年，你要 e-test,
如果有灯亮，你就fail,现在才2年，以后的路还长着呢，
本来这个valve就是个画蛇添足的设计，
原来是想如果油箱盖不好，汽油挥发到空气中，会污染环境，
设计了一堆元件来测油箱盖是不是好的，结果测试元件有问题，
搞得车都开不了了，因为通不过e-test.
下次灯再亮，你把楼上贴的Service Bulletin打印一份给他们看，
让他们给换valve,不过他们说valve是好的，不给你换，你也没办法。
顺便问一下，你买车时有没有做底盘防锈，几百块钱的那种？
如果有灯亮，你就fail,现在才2年，以后的路还长着呢，
本来这个valve就是个画蛇添足的设计，
原来是想如果油箱盖不好，汽油挥发到空气中，会污染环境，
设计了一堆元件来测油箱盖是不是好的，结果测试元件有问题，
搞得车都开不了了，因为通不过e-test.
下次灯再亮，你把楼上贴的Service Bulletin打印一份给他们看，
让他们给换valve,不过他们说valve是好的，不给你换，你也没办法。
顺便问一下，你买车时有没有做底盘防锈，几百块钱的那种？
Marshall2004
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MY Code is P1456
My 2001 Civic has the same issue thia morning, guessed I didn't tighten the fuel tank cap enough. I went to Auto Zone to scan the code. But the code is a little bit different, it is P1456 instead of P1457, although it also means emmision control problem. So suggestion?
Wait for 3 days? I should drive the car for three days or leave it their?
My 2001 Civic has the same issue thia morning, guessed I didn't tighten the fuel tank cap enough. I went to Auto Zone to scan the code. But the code is a little bit different, it is P1456 instead of P1457, although it also means emmision control problem. So suggestion?
Wait for 3 days? I should drive the car for three days or leave it their?
