渥太华, 大公司,Unix Technical Support full-time position

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Education and Experience:
The qualified candidate must possess a computer science or engineering degree and a minimum of 5 years experience in a mixed UNIX environment.

Required Skills:
• UNIX: Solaris, HP-UX. Installation, configuration, administration.
• Linux: RedHat Enterprise. Installation, configuration, administration.
• Solid understanding of networking at the IP level.
• Strong understanding of operating system theory.
• Strong understanding of IP security concepts. Proxy and Packet Filter.
• Performance management and testing at an OS and database level.
• Scripting and programming. BASH, SH, PERL, Java, Web CGI, PHP, C/C++.
• Strong troubleshooting and problem solving skills.

Desirable Skills:
• Knowledge of SAN solutions including fiber switching.
• Knowledge of Tru64 UNIX and TruCluster.
• Knowledge of Mandrake Linux.
• Knowledge of BSD and derivatives.
• Knowledge of Checkpoint NG-AI on Nokia IP platforms.
• Database performance management and tuning from an OS level.
 
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If you can't get security clearance, don't even bother to apply. I've referred 2 people and CGI was ready to give them the offer but backed off due to incapability to obtain security clearance.
 
其实,我的体会是,一个公司里,中国人太多,多我自己没好处。本来是想把公司内部招聘的负责人的联系方法,透露给感兴趣的同胞,没想到被咬了一口,算我多事。

CGI没有reward for referrals,楼上的有用小人之心度君子之腹的嫌疑。

顺便说一下,我没有Secret Clearance,但我干得好好的。

请楼上的斑竹把这个题目删了吧。
 
Why would the number of Chinese employees make an impact on you? I am really confused. I think Chinese employees are among the best: they work extremely hard and almost never complain (although they probably should).

I didn't ask you to post internal contact, but you should at least post the FULL job description, and let the job seekers make the choice on how to apply.

You should make the distinction between security clearance and secret level security clearance. CGI requires all employees to have at the very minimum Enhanced Reliability Check (ERC) with the possibility to obtain Secret level security clearance. Generally speaking you'll need to live in Canada for about 5 years to be able to get ERC, but exceptions do occur. However two people I referred to CGI have been turned down solely because they couldn't get ERC, they were a perfect match for the positions, the hiring manager was also quite disappointed. That is a company-wide policy, no exceptions.

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其实,我的体会是,一个公司里,中国人太多,多我自己没好处。本来是想把公司内部招聘的负责人的联系方法,透露给感兴趣的同胞,没想到被咬了一口,算我多事。

CGI没有reward for referrals,楼上的有用小人之心度君子之腹的嫌疑。

顺便说一下,我没有Secret Clearance,但我干得好好的。

请楼上的斑竹把这个题目删了吧。
 
我很清楚security clearance and secret level security clearance的区别。 为了你自己一时的口舌之快,你阻止别人尝试可能的机会,这不是很厚道。

我开始在CGI工作的时候,在加拿大只生活了4年,也拿到了Enhanced Reliability Check (ERC)。你反复说几年的问题,说明你有一个错误的假设,那就是在这里找工作的只有刚刚来的中国人。

我顺便问一下,按照你的逻辑,你在这里贴招工信息,是不是为了reward for referrals? 记得过去有人曾说,某些中国人,最善於用自己阴暗的心理来抵毁别人。
 
此事起因在于您选择性地转贴招工广告。您选择性地忽略了对于新移民来说至关重要的一条要求:必须可以拿到ERC。而且不公开申请方法,不符合常规行为,比较令人费解。

正当的职业推荐没什么不对(尽管我绝对不会推荐不熟悉仅从网上相知的人,但这是我的个人选择),您大可不必急于申辩。这一来反倒似戳到痛处,愈发令人对您初始的动机有所怀疑了。对了,来本版的大多数还是新移民,安检对于许多新移民来说是道过不去的障碍,当然也有例外,我前面已经说过了。911之后的政策不能跟以前相比,这个道理稍微不太闭塞的人都能明白。

另外,我还是比较想知道您对所谓的“中国人太多对您没有好处“做何解释?

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我很清楚security clearance and secret level security clearance的区别。 为了你自己一时的口舌之快,你阻止别人尝试可能的机会,这不是很厚道。

我开始在CGI工作的时候,在加拿大只生活了4年,也拿到了Enhanced Reliability Check (ERC)。你反复说几年的问题,说明你有一个错误的假设,那就是在这里找工作的只有刚刚来的中国人。

我顺便问一下,按照你的逻辑,你在这里贴招工信息,是不是为了reward for referrals? 记得过去有人曾说,某些中国人,最善於用自己阴暗的心理来抵毁别人。
 
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此事起因在于您选择性地转贴招工广告。您选择性地忽略了对于新移民来说至关重要的一条要求:必须可以拿到ERC。而且不公开申请方法,不符合常规行为,比较令人费解。

本人的目的无非是想把公司内部招聘的负责人的联系方法,透露给感兴趣的同胞。你不能理解是因为你觉得别人都和你一样,是为了reward for referrals。

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正当的职业推荐没什么不对(尽管我绝对不会推荐不熟悉仅从网上相知的人,但这是我的个人选择),您大可不必急于申辩。这一来反倒似戳到痛处,愈发令人对您初始的动机有所怀疑了。

本来没想申辩,只是对你象吃了枪药似的狗咬吕洞宾的做法不可理解。另外,对你为了自己一时的口舌之快,阻止别人尝试可能的机会,我很反感。你的回贴,让我愈发觉得你心理有问题。

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Generally speaking you'll need to live in Canada for about 5 years to be able to get ERC, but exceptions do occur.

你能不能找到你说的5 years的证据。如果你说的是真的,你能不能证明这个坛子上绝对没人是exceptions.

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对了,来本版的大多数还是新移民,安检对于许多新移民来说是道过不去的障碍,当然也有例外,我前面已经说过了。911之后的政策不能跟以前相比,这个道理稍微不太闭塞的人都能明白。

你先说拿到ERC要5年,我告诉你我拿ERC的时候只有4年,於是你又说911之后的政策有改变,我就是911以后拿到ERC的(关于这些个人情况,如果你也在CGI,咱们可以私下证实)。看来你为了维持你第一个谎言,不得不撒十个新的谎。你说"来本版的大多数还是新移民",也就是说你承认了有一些来本版的同志不是新移民,也就是说为了你自己一时的口舌之快,你阻止这些人尝试可能的机会,这不是很厚道。

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另外,我还是比较想知道您对所谓的“中国人太多对您没有好处“做何解释?

我只是陈述了一个我自己和其他一些人的感受,没必要向你做进一步解释。

顺便问一下,既然CGI没有reward for referrals,你不妨用你自己阴暗的心理来大胆揣摩一下我的动机。而那些找工作的同志们,只好按照你的建议,往那个一天几百个e-mail的人事部信箱里发邮件了,效果如何,大家都很清楚。
 
Even the hiring managers don't have authority over company-wide hiring policies. I know this because 2 people I referred were turned down only because they hadn't not lived in Canada for 5 years, that's how I know.

You could simply hide the internal contact info, but that was NOT what you did: you willingly chose to omit important qualifying criteria, for whatever reason. Like I said, I wouldn't refer just about anyone because my reputation would be on the line for that person I referred, perhaps this notion of credibility is still unknown to you.

Your conduct resembled that of a professional headhunter, IMO.
 
我本来只是公司内部e-mail的copy & past,那个rio发内部e-mail的时候也没有说什么cleerance, 你可以查查5月6号的e-mail,所以咱发的时候也没多想。

可是你开始的时候说我是为了钱,现在干脆是死活要把咱的帖子说成一个阴险的圈套,也就是我说的: 用自己阴暗的心理来大胆揣摩一下我的动机。我真是服了你了。我现在倒是糊涂了,你这么拼命地阻止别人申请可能的机会,显得很有意思,但我不揣摩你的心理,至少我不把你往坏里想。

你有一点可能搞错了,我并没有想refer什么人,我只是想透露内部招聘的负责人的联系方法(关于透露内部招聘的负责人的联系方法,我问过人事部,我明白尺度),便於follow up,因为这比往那个一天几百个e-mail的人事部信箱里发邮件效果好得多,我根本就不希望别人透露我的名字,是否录用,和我一点关系没有,所以也就没有什么reputation之说,更没有reward for referrals(CGI没有reward for referrals)。你之所以这样想,可能是因为你自己为人的目的性很明确 -- reward for referrals.

真没想到,大名鼎鼎的渐渐和咱是一个公司的,CGI过去有过reward for referrals? 你当这个斑竹得了不少钱吧?(不好意思,我跟你学坏了)
 
Hi, I have sent you the QQH, would you call me once you have time ?
Thanks
 
Don't argue again, I know both of you are good Chinese, so please stop.
 
Whom did you ask in HR, I'm very curious, because if you'd asked, you'd know this: CGI did have and still does have reward for referrals, but only for highly competitive positions.
 
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