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好不容易看中一房子, 设计不错, 偏偏房主是印度人, 房子里面气味非常重(几乎晕倒), 很担心这种气味能不能去掉,如果去不掉就惨了…大家给点建议吧.
好不容易看中一房子, 设计不错, 偏偏房主是印度人!
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可怜的楼主啊，找别家吧。
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以下是我在一次GOOGLE中无意找到的.耐心读完你就会知道买印巴人的房子是多么的可怕.
I recently purchased a house from a seller who managed to mask the
strong curry odor (from seven years of cooking) until I took over. I
am having trouble renting the house or finding roommates to live in it with me. My question relates to removing the odor not my possible
legal recourse.
I have searched the internet far and wide and have been unable to find a reliable answer to resolve my problem: What alternative(s) alone or in combination (short of replacing the walls or rebuilding) are SAFE, truly EFFECTIVE and PERMANENT in removing curry odors? What companies can you recommend in the San Francisco Bay Area, how much do they charge and do they guarantee?
Below are suggestions I have found online thus far, which people have
followed and which appear to have failed. If you can cite information to show that any of the below work in response to my question above, then please provide and explain.
Walls and Ceilings - wash with TCP and paint
Carpet - replace pad and carpet
Kitchen cabinets and hardwood floors - wash and seal or replace
Window blinds/drapes - wash or replace
Ventilation - temporary fix, has not worked in my house thus far
Air Fresheners/vinegar/candles/incense - temporary fix
Ozone generators - see www.epa.gov for cautions about safety due to
chemical reactions and by-products; also government cites studies that these devices are ineffective
Air Filtering devices - same safety and efficacy concerns as ozone generators
Treatment to Air conditioning system/air heating system - same safety
and efficacy concerns as ozone generators
Isolate odors/remove at soure - This solution appears to be too late
after seven years that owners occupied the house.
Appliances - replace oven and microwave, costly and does not work
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Clarification of Question by michmad-ga on 11 Aug 2005 02:18 PDT
To provide more potentially necessary information about the house:
Downstairs kitchen is pergo, granite tile and wood cabinets.
Kitchen opens to living room, which has carpet. Total square feet
downstairs approx 600. Upstairs has noticeably less odor, and the three rooms and one loft area are fully carpeted. Total square feet approx 900.
An idea of how much various contractors want for what they THINK will
solve the problem: carpet and pad replacment downstairs $1000-2000;
paint downstairs 1000-1500; vaguely described air filtering/freshening device for entire house $1000.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Clarification of Question by michmad-ga on 12 Aug 2005 13:12 PDT
Thank you for your comments. What is thermo-fog deodorizing smoke,
e.g., what chemical are involved? I have seen it on the internet but
not a lot of information is out there.
Subject: Re: Remove Curry Smell from House - Need quick response
From: elids-ga on 11 Aug 2005 08:23 PDT
This may seem silly but I would ask the previous owner, how did you mask the odor?
Subject: Re: Remove Curry Smell from House - Need quick response
From: michmad-ga on 12 Aug 2005 00:32 PDT
Not a silly question. I presume they did not mask the odor while
living there. When for sale and vacant, the owner left the windows
and sliding glass door open 24 hours a day. Not as workable a
solution when the house is occupied. Is my question a tough one?
(beyond stumping me)
Subject: Re: Remove Curry Smell from House - Need quick response
From: cynthia-ga on 12 Aug 2005 00:46 PDT
I used to own a carpet and upholstery cleaning company. Regardless of
the dangers you site (you'd need to leave the house for several days), ozone is my best idea. Also, call around to some "indoor air quality" companies and ask them what they suggest.
Good luck, I can't even imagine your dismay..
~~Cynthia
Subject: Re: Remove Curry Smell from House - Need quick response
From: tlspiegel-ga on 12 Aug 2005 01:29 PDT
Q: I moved into a home with a heavy, oily curry smell. I have painted
the walls and washed the cupboards, what else can I do?
http://real-estate-agents.com/tips/cleaning/house-odors.shtml
A: If the drapes and blinds haven't been cleaned yet, start there. If
that doesn't do the trick, we recommend you look into having it
thermo-fogged. Because latex paint is porous, it allows air and odors
to pass through it. Some odor fighters use thermo-fog deodorizing
smoke to penetrate through latex paint, cabinets and even your heat
and air conditioning system to permanently eliminate odors. This is
also effective in treating odors caused by tobacco smoke, some mold
and mildew problems and even moth ball odors which linger in older
homes. Often it is necessary to follow this procedure with a thorough
professional carpet cleaning to remove "locked-in" odors sealed in by
dirt and debris.
Subject: Re: Remove Curry Smell from House - Need quick response
From: pecospearl-ga on 26 Aug 2005 03:33 PDT
Maybe kitty litter will help. I use it to absorb all sorts of odors.
My son told me about it after some potatoes rotted in my kitchen
cabinet. It was bad, but the kitty litter took care of it in about a
day. Since then I've used it on all sorts of odors and it works
wonderfully. I just put some in a open container and occasionally
stir it to get new litter to the top.
Subject: Re: Remove Curry Smell from House - Need quick response
From: cinlove-ga on 04 Sep 2005 13:22 PDT
My suggestion is to contact a professional company that cleans up
houses after a fire. The chemicals that they use to wash down the
walls, etc. should clean and deodorize your place from the odors. As
far as drapes and any fabrics are concerned, you should probably
replace them if they were left behind.
Subject: Re: Remove Curry Smell from House - Need quick response
From: thefountainofknowlag-ga on 11 Nov 2005 06:08 PST
I have been there already; I have gone to the end of the internet for
solution and could not find one ? Until now. Let me tell you my story.
I moved into a condo that had cooking odors from spices and oils. I
cleaned, I changed carpets, I painted, I bough all kind of devices
such as air cleaners, ozone generators and ion generators. Nothing
helped, the odor never went away. I decided it was time to call
professionals, 3 different companies came over to test the quality of
the air and gave me their suggestion to the problem. This costs me a
fortune and their suggestions was more expensive then their tests. One
company told me that the air is so bad I must move out, the only way
to fix my problem was to break all the walls and ceiling, clean them
and rebuild them. An extreme solution that was unacceptable to me. So
I called another company, they offered me to buy a UV lamp and install
it in my ducts. This special device with UV supposes to kill
everything in the air. They guaranteed their device would work, so I
got it installed. The device did not work, and the company refused to
refund me. They all ran their own air quality tests, the they all got
different results ? at the end I came to conclusion that company that
offer air quality tests, make tons on money just based on fear, if
they have a product to offer they will scare you death so you will buy
it. I was getting desperate, and came to conclusion that the odor can
not be removed not even by a nuke. A friend of mine called me one day
and told me he knows someone that deals with odors. I called him. He
told me that there is a new company that is specializing in removing
odors without breaking anything. I was already frustrated, so when I
called the company I was a bit rude and said that I am not paying a
penny until the odor is removed for 30 days. They accepted the
challenge and came to my condo. They had 2 huge machines with them,
they were ozone generators. I protested and said that I have tried
Ozone generator before and it did not work. They explained me that the
ozone generators machine offered to the public and simply not
effective due to their low output. They explained that the Ozone
generators machines they have emit extremely large quantity of ozone
that would break any type of carbon based organism or compound. Later
I did a lot of reading about Ozone to understand how it works. Just
google it to find out the details. Anyways, they told me I have to
leave the condo while they run the machines. The machines pump ozone
everywhere - not only in the living area but also between the walls
and within the ceiling and also in the kitchen exhaust. They have
these special tubes coming out of the machine that you can inject
anywhere you want. I left my condo while they ran the treatment
because it is unsafe to breathe pure ozone. After 3 hours I came back
and the condo smelled completely like ozone. I could not smell the
odor anymore. They told me the ozone will break into oxygen very
quickly and after that the condo would be odor free. They wanted no
money; they asked that I will call them after a month. It has been one
week now and there is no odor. I believe they have actually solved the
problem I have been trying to solve for over 2 years. The treatment is
called “Ozone Shock Treatment” however there are a lot of different
ways to do it. I did not mention any company names here so you will
know my motives are not to sell or promote. I am just telling you the
truth, nothing worked except the shock treatment. Don’t waste your
money on air tests and devices. I recommend you do this shock
treatment and take it from there. Save yourself the pain I have been
going over. I know were you coming from and I hope this little story
helps.
I recently purchased a house from a seller who managed to mask the
strong curry odor (from seven years of cooking) until I took over. I
am having trouble renting the house or finding roommates to live in it with me. My question relates to removing the odor not my possible
legal recourse.
I have searched the internet far and wide and have been unable to find a reliable answer to resolve my problem: What alternative(s) alone or in combination (short of replacing the walls or rebuilding) are SAFE, truly EFFECTIVE and PERMANENT in removing curry odors? What companies can you recommend in the San Francisco Bay Area, how much do they charge and do they guarantee?
Below are suggestions I have found online thus far, which people have
followed and which appear to have failed. If you can cite information to show that any of the below work in response to my question above, then please provide and explain.
Walls and Ceilings - wash with TCP and paint
Carpet - replace pad and carpet
Kitchen cabinets and hardwood floors - wash and seal or replace
Window blinds/drapes - wash or replace
Ventilation - temporary fix, has not worked in my house thus far
Air Fresheners/vinegar/candles/incense - temporary fix
Ozone generators - see www.epa.gov for cautions about safety due to
chemical reactions and by-products; also government cites studies that these devices are ineffective
Air Filtering devices - same safety and efficacy concerns as ozone generators
Treatment to Air conditioning system/air heating system - same safety
and efficacy concerns as ozone generators
Isolate odors/remove at soure - This solution appears to be too late
after seven years that owners occupied the house.
Appliances - replace oven and microwave, costly and does not work
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Clarification of Question by michmad-ga on 11 Aug 2005 02:18 PDT
To provide more potentially necessary information about the house:
Downstairs kitchen is pergo, granite tile and wood cabinets.
Kitchen opens to living room, which has carpet. Total square feet
downstairs approx 600. Upstairs has noticeably less odor, and the three rooms and one loft area are fully carpeted. Total square feet approx 900.
An idea of how much various contractors want for what they THINK will
solve the problem: carpet and pad replacment downstairs $1000-2000;
paint downstairs 1000-1500; vaguely described air filtering/freshening device for entire house $1000.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Clarification of Question by michmad-ga on 12 Aug 2005 13:12 PDT
Thank you for your comments. What is thermo-fog deodorizing smoke,
e.g., what chemical are involved? I have seen it on the internet but
not a lot of information is out there.
Subject: Re: Remove Curry Smell from House - Need quick response
From: elids-ga on 11 Aug 2005 08:23 PDT
This may seem silly but I would ask the previous owner, how did you mask the odor?
Subject: Re: Remove Curry Smell from House - Need quick response
From: michmad-ga on 12 Aug 2005 00:32 PDT
Not a silly question. I presume they did not mask the odor while
living there. When for sale and vacant, the owner left the windows
and sliding glass door open 24 hours a day. Not as workable a
solution when the house is occupied. Is my question a tough one?
(beyond stumping me)
Subject: Re: Remove Curry Smell from House - Need quick response
From: cynthia-ga on 12 Aug 2005 00:46 PDT
I used to own a carpet and upholstery cleaning company. Regardless of
the dangers you site (you'd need to leave the house for several days), ozone is my best idea. Also, call around to some "indoor air quality" companies and ask them what they suggest.
Good luck, I can't even imagine your dismay..
~~Cynthia
Subject: Re: Remove Curry Smell from House - Need quick response
From: tlspiegel-ga on 12 Aug 2005 01:29 PDT
Q: I moved into a home with a heavy, oily curry smell. I have painted
the walls and washed the cupboards, what else can I do?
http://real-estate-agents.com/tips/cleaning/house-odors.shtml
A: If the drapes and blinds haven't been cleaned yet, start there. If
that doesn't do the trick, we recommend you look into having it
thermo-fogged. Because latex paint is porous, it allows air and odors
to pass through it. Some odor fighters use thermo-fog deodorizing
smoke to penetrate through latex paint, cabinets and even your heat
and air conditioning system to permanently eliminate odors. This is
also effective in treating odors caused by tobacco smoke, some mold
and mildew problems and even moth ball odors which linger in older
homes. Often it is necessary to follow this procedure with a thorough
professional carpet cleaning to remove "locked-in" odors sealed in by
dirt and debris.
Subject: Re: Remove Curry Smell from House - Need quick response
From: pecospearl-ga on 26 Aug 2005 03:33 PDT
Maybe kitty litter will help. I use it to absorb all sorts of odors.
My son told me about it after some potatoes rotted in my kitchen
cabinet. It was bad, but the kitty litter took care of it in about a
day. Since then I've used it on all sorts of odors and it works
wonderfully. I just put some in a open container and occasionally
stir it to get new litter to the top.
Subject: Re: Remove Curry Smell from House - Need quick response
From: cinlove-ga on 04 Sep 2005 13:22 PDT
My suggestion is to contact a professional company that cleans up
houses after a fire. The chemicals that they use to wash down the
walls, etc. should clean and deodorize your place from the odors. As
far as drapes and any fabrics are concerned, you should probably
replace them if they were left behind.
Subject: Re: Remove Curry Smell from House - Need quick response
From: thefountainofknowlag-ga on 11 Nov 2005 06:08 PST
I have been there already; I have gone to the end of the internet for
solution and could not find one ? Until now. Let me tell you my story.
I moved into a condo that had cooking odors from spices and oils. I
cleaned, I changed carpets, I painted, I bough all kind of devices
such as air cleaners, ozone generators and ion generators. Nothing
helped, the odor never went away. I decided it was time to call
professionals, 3 different companies came over to test the quality of
the air and gave me their suggestion to the problem. This costs me a
fortune and their suggestions was more expensive then their tests. One
company told me that the air is so bad I must move out, the only way
to fix my problem was to break all the walls and ceiling, clean them
and rebuild them. An extreme solution that was unacceptable to me. So
I called another company, they offered me to buy a UV lamp and install
it in my ducts. This special device with UV supposes to kill
everything in the air. They guaranteed their device would work, so I
got it installed. The device did not work, and the company refused to
refund me. They all ran their own air quality tests, the they all got
different results ? at the end I came to conclusion that company that
offer air quality tests, make tons on money just based on fear, if
they have a product to offer they will scare you death so you will buy
it. I was getting desperate, and came to conclusion that the odor can
not be removed not even by a nuke. A friend of mine called me one day
and told me he knows someone that deals with odors. I called him. He
told me that there is a new company that is specializing in removing
odors without breaking anything. I was already frustrated, so when I
called the company I was a bit rude and said that I am not paying a
penny until the odor is removed for 30 days. They accepted the
challenge and came to my condo. They had 2 huge machines with them,
they were ozone generators. I protested and said that I have tried
Ozone generator before and it did not work. They explained me that the
ozone generators machine offered to the public and simply not
effective due to their low output. They explained that the Ozone
generators machines they have emit extremely large quantity of ozone
that would break any type of carbon based organism or compound. Later
I did a lot of reading about Ozone to understand how it works. Just
google it to find out the details. Anyways, they told me I have to
leave the condo while they run the machines. The machines pump ozone
everywhere - not only in the living area but also between the walls
and within the ceiling and also in the kitchen exhaust. They have
these special tubes coming out of the machine that you can inject
anywhere you want. I left my condo while they ran the treatment
because it is unsafe to breathe pure ozone. After 3 hours I came back
and the condo smelled completely like ozone. I could not smell the
odor anymore. They told me the ozone will break into oxygen very
quickly and after that the condo would be odor free. They wanted no
money; they asked that I will call them after a month. It has been one
week now and there is no odor. I believe they have actually solved the
problem I have been trying to solve for over 2 years. The treatment is
called “Ozone Shock Treatment” however there are a lot of different
ways to do it. I did not mention any company names here so you will
know my motives are not to sell or promote. I am just telling you the
truth, nothing worked except the shock treatment. Don’t waste your
money on air tests and devices. I recommend you do this shock
treatment and take it from there. Save yourself the pain I have been
going over. I know were you coming from and I hope this little story
helps.
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太感谢你了！flapjack_monkey
太感谢你了！flapjack_monkey。 我们也是举棋不定啊，看房子看了快半年了，好不容易看上一个两个人都没什莫争议的设计，偏偏房子被印度人搞得一他糊涂，一点也不爱惜，地下室被他们晾满了衣服，像个贫民窟，这是可惜啊！打算再去看一个仔细，不行，就坚决放弃！
太感谢你了！flapjack_monkey。 我们也是举棋不定啊，看房子看了快半年了，好不容易看上一个两个人都没什莫争议的设计，偏偏房子被印度人搞得一他糊涂，一点也不爱惜，地下室被他们晾满了衣服，像个贫民窟，这是可惜啊！打算再去看一个仔细，不行，就坚决放弃！
Re: 太感谢你了！flapjack_monkey
要是买的话不要忘了大杀一把价.
or you can ask the seller to replace the carpet and paint the wall, do the odor treatment as condition.
I get interesting in this topic. I find a company who do "Ozeon shock" and call them for topic. http://www.thehousedoc.ca/contactinfo.html
They told me the Ozone alone is not enough to treat the odor. You have to replace the carpet and use TCP to wash all the wall and ceiling and Some prime(I forget the name) to seal the wall and repaint. If the basement is finished the basement ceiling may need to be replace. My guess is if it is not finished. The insulation in basement need to be checked as well.
After that it may solve the problem.
要是买的话不要忘了大杀一把价.
or you can ask the seller to replace the carpet and paint the wall, do the odor treatment as condition.
I get interesting in this topic. I find a company who do "Ozeon shock" and call them for topic. http://www.thehousedoc.ca/contactinfo.html
They told me the Ozone alone is not enough to treat the odor. You have to replace the carpet and use TCP to wash all the wall and ceiling and Some prime(I forget the name) to seal the wall and repaint. If the basement is finished the basement ceiling may need to be replace. My guess is if it is not finished. The insulation in basement need to be checked as well.
After that it may solve the problem.
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Re: Re: 太感谢你了！flapjack_monkey
多谢多谢！Timothy's！
感觉挺麻烦的，特别是在冬天，老印倒是我们一进去就说已经洗了地毯，墙也会重刷，看来也是自知之明，嗬嗬，所以网站上一张室内的照片都没有。看房的人都是被骗去的，
对了，一般房价能砍多少？同一地区的房子一模一样的，要价比他们要高两万，但是室内装修就好得多。
多谢多谢！Timothy's！
感觉挺麻烦的，特别是在冬天，老印倒是我们一进去就说已经洗了地毯，墙也会重刷，看来也是自知之明，嗬嗬，所以网站上一张室内的照片都没有。看房的人都是被骗去的，
对了，一般房价能砍多少？同一地区的房子一模一样的，要价比他们要高两万，但是室内装修就好得多。
Re: Re: Re: 太感谢你了！flapjack_monkey
老实说我是不会考虑买这房子的.因为就是所有武器都用上,也可能有漏网之鱼.犯不上冒这险.
谈到价格,他的墙要刷,地毯有换.还有什么"室内装修就好得多" 可言. 有这样臭味的房子,洋人根本保证不考虑,他不会有买主. 这边不是国内. 在特定时间,地区,买主就那么几个. 可能就你一个还在考虑. 按同一地区的房子压俩万再说. 因为那一套地毯,墙和除味就快一万五了.
要是房子是刚上市的,房主一般不会降价.你可等他一段时间自降.当离你的心理价格一万以内再去谈.
老实说我是不会考虑买这房子的.因为就是所有武器都用上,也可能有漏网之鱼.犯不上冒这险.
谈到价格,他的墙要刷,地毯有换.还有什么"室内装修就好得多" 可言. 有这样臭味的房子,洋人根本保证不考虑,他不会有买主. 这边不是国内. 在特定时间,地区,买主就那么几个. 可能就你一个还在考虑. 按同一地区的房子压俩万再说. 因为那一套地毯,墙和除味就快一万五了.
要是房子是刚上市的,房主一般不会降价.你可等他一段时间自降.当离你的心理价格一万以内再去谈.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: 太感谢你了！flapjack_monkey
说得没错。我也觉得没必要往枪眼上撞，不怕一万，就怕万一，这个房子已经降了一万了，估计就是因为味道的原因。多谢大家的意见！
说得没错。我也觉得没必要往枪眼上撞，不怕一万，就怕万一，这个房子已经降了一万了，估计就是因为味道的原因。多谢大家的意见！
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 太感谢你了！flapjack_monkey
哈哈!这末巧?是在hunt club 吗？
哈哈!这末巧?是在hunt club 吗？
