Simply confused

[DickStrong]

Although the truth is still elusive, may we say there is certainly a fight in Fullhouse that night (or early morning)?

All I can see is that there's a fight which led to a killing. What kind of reaction are you expecting from people? Mourning from parents and friends for sure. But what about other people?

Do the two students deserve tears from others? I don't know. I don't see what they've contributed to the society.

Do they deserve blaming from others? I don't know either. I don't see what damage they've done to the society.

So should I have any special feeling?

 

[某某]

就算他们还没有给社会作出显著的贡献，他们也是社会的一员，他们的死去是经由暴力违法之手，我们要谴责的应该是凶手
就算他们不值得一些人的同情，但是也不应该受到这些人言语的攻击
没有特殊的感觉不要紧，感觉麻木也不要紧
但是在真相大白之前，就捕风捉影地疯狗似的咬人，在我看来是不对的

 

[affordtolose]

最初由 DickStrong 发布

Do the two students deserve tears from others? I don't know. I don't see what they've contributed to the society.

Yes, they do. Because of their young and innocent lives.

 

[农夫]

生命的价值在于生命本身，与对社会的贡献无关。

比如说，如果大家投票一致认为DickStrong先生对社会毫无贡献，是不是意味着任何人都可以杀掉你Dick先生？

再比如，DickStrong先生在三个月差85天时，对社会毫无贡献、只是在消耗一个社会劳动力，是不是先生的父母在那个时候就应该置先生于死地？

 

[DickStrong]

最初由 掾民 发布
生命的价值在于生命本身，与对社会的贡献无关。

比如说，如果大家投票一致认为DickStrong先生对社会毫无贡献，是不是意味着任何人都可以杀掉你Dick先生？

再比如，DickStrong先生在三个月差85天时，对社会毫无贡献、只是在消耗一个社会劳动力，是不是先生的父母在那个时候就应该置先生于死地？

Seems you are more confused than I am. I am not reasoning the dead to the contribution to the society. I am not saying someone deserves death, because everyone has his/her right of living. I am asking whether the death deserves mourning from others.

Clear your brain before replying to my post, otherwise you are just humiliating yourself.

 

[DickStrong]

Re: Re: Simply confused

最初由 affordtolose 发布


Yes, they do. Because of their young and innocent lives.

I don't know what's your definition of innocent. My understanding is when you are involved in a fight, you may or may not be able to control the result.

 

[大漠张三]

if you don't feel sad, then don't mourn

 

[独醉]

最初由 dec06 发布
200多人能称为“千人”吗？

http://www.cbc.ca/ottawa/story/ot-chinese20051212.html
Memorial held for Chinese murder victims
Last updated Dec 12 2005 08:56 AM EST
CBC News


Ottawa Mayor Bob Chiarelli and Police Chief Vince Bevan are meeting members of Ottawa's Chinese community Monday morning to discuss safety issues in the wake of the murder of two young men from China in the city last week.


Scene of last Tuesday's murders

More than 200 people attended a memorial Sunday night outside the Fullhouse Karaoke Tea Cafe on Somerset Street where Tailing Liu and Linhai Tian were shot to death early last Tuesday morning.

Police blocked off an entire city block to give people enough room to mourn the deaths of the two young men.

FROM DEC. 9, 2005: Chinese community mourns loss

Ling Wang had never met either Liu or Tian. But he knows they were young and vulnerable. They were 20 years old, and they had left their families in China to study in Ottawa.

"Their country is so far away from Canada, and they are young students," Wang says. "They come here to learn some knowledge."

Some of the people at Sunday's memorial did know the students. They say Tian was out last Monday night to celebrate the end of his exams. They also say he enjoyed singing love songs, which explains why he was at a karaoke bar.

Liquan Wang hopes the memorial will send a signal to governments that more should be done to make Ottawa safe.

"I think our government, our citizens should do something right now. We need a safe environment," Wang says.

So far, police have no suspects in the murders.

先问你， 去了么你？没去请闭嘴， 1个多小时来来往往的中国人何止200人

 

[COWBOY]

最初由 DickStrong 发布


Seems you are more confused than I am. I am not reasoning the dead to the contribution to the society. I am not saying someone deserves death, because everyone has his/her right of living. I am asking whether the death deserves mourning from others.

Clear your brain before replying to my post, otherwise you are just humiliating yourself.

Let me tell ya~
its not only for the two young and innocent lives,it also represents the courage of chinese sociaty to the canadian ppl

now clear ur brain before asking Q

 

[DickStrong]

最初由 COWBOY 发布

Let me tell ya~
its not only for the two young and innocent lives,it also represents the courage of chinese ppl to the canadian ppl

now clear ur brain before asking Q

What courage? Courage of getting into a fight with some dumbhead with a gun?

 

[大漠张三]

最初由 DickStrong 发布


What courage? Courage of getting into a fight with some dumbhead with a gun?

if you don't feel sad, don't mourn

 

[DickStrong]

最初由 大漠张三 发布



if you don't feel sad, don't mourn

thank you for your advise

 

[农夫]

最初由 DickStrong 发布


Seems you are more confused than I am. I am not reasoning the dead to the contribution to the society. I am not saying someone deserves death, because everyone has his/her right of living. I am asking whether the death deserves mourning from others.

Clear your brain before replying to my post, otherwise you are just humiliating yourself.

恼怒了？恼怒是弱者自我保护的自然反应。可以理解。

为什么我们会感到悲伤？因为我们失去了本来不应该失去的，极可宝贵的东西，在这里，是两个年青的生命。

如果先生已经对别人的生命麻木不仁，又何必用什么贡献不贡献的来做掩饰？

请问，有一天您的父母不幸先您去世(我想先生不会否认这种可能性吧？)，难道先生还要先考虑一下他们“对社会的贡献”再决定是否哀悼？

 

[COWBOY]

最初由 DickStrong 发布


thank you for your advise

If nobody act, they(canadian) will think China is full of ppl like you.

 

[Cinderella-m7]

LZ,冷漠不代表理智！！!