RRSP 的投资价值不高

今天

知名会员
注册
2003-11-08
消息
1,288
荣誉分数
469
声望点数
193
到了每年的二月份,RRSP就是最热门的话题, RRSP的避税功能实在是如雷贯耳,但我认为RRSP说穿了是一种强制性的存款。对于加拿大人喜欢用光花光的消费习惯,RRSP的确让不少人给老了后的生活留下了一点儿积蓄,但是它的投资价值不高,借款买RRSP更是亏到了家。

When you put money into your RRSP, you get a tax break. But when you take money out, you have to pay a withholding tax. Note that the withholding tax rate is not your marginal tax rate. Often people try to minimize withholding tax, thinking it will be their total tax bill, and they are then surprised at the end of the year when they have additional taxes owing.

也就是说,当你十几,二十年后取RRSP的时候,就是真正的秋后算账了。
$5000 以下,要交税10%; $5000到$15,000, 要交税20%; $15,000以上要交30%.

对于低收入的家庭,买RRSP不合算。
计算方法如下:如你家的收入在34,000以下,你有$2000的额度打算购买RRSP, RRSP的每年回报为6%。你打算存35年(假如你现在30岁)。

AFTER 35 YEARS, $2000 will become $15372, if you want to withdraw this money , you have to pay 30% tax by that time $15372*30%=$4611.6. 所以,你在35年以后还有$10760.4

如果你没有买RRSP, 而是交了当年的税,把余下的钱存了起来,回报也是6%,要交的税为$2000*(6.05%+15%)=421, 余$1579,After 35 years, $1579 become $12136, since it is your deposit saving you don’t have to pay for tax again. Certainly, you have to pay tax for 50% of interests as capital gain. Roughly, You will have to pay ($12136-1579)*50%*(6.05%+15%)= 1111.12, then you still have $11024.88 left.

Which is still better than $10760.4 from RRSP saving
就是对中高收入家庭,RRSP的回报也只是稍稍的比一般存款好一点,如果你善于投资,找到比RRSP回报高的投资方式,虽然CAPITAL GAIN是要按50%报收入缴税,那也不一定比RRSP到最后,实打实的按10%,20% 或30%收税更糟。
 
?主真得?邋╋但是有??要厌充的:

1)?你偕2000RRSP?╋?你要交30%的?。呃?就?有600元的退?╋600$(35年後)=4611.65。再打30%的?=3228.16的?後收入。10760.4+3228.16=13988.56

2)?你不偕RRSP?的遑╋不一定只是CG的收入。一般是?50%的收入是CG╋50%是Interest。所以?算成
(12136-1579) = 10557
10557 * 50% = 5278.5$
5278.5 * 50% = 2639.25 (CG)
5278.5 * 100% = 5278.5 (Interest)
Taxable = 7917.75
Tax payable@30% = 2375.33
After tax income = (12136-1579-2375.33) = 8181.67

呃?的?算比蒉合理。

3)?你要拿出?的?後╋不一定要在RRSP的_?B下拿出?的。只要你把RRSP?成RRIP╋那最底的withdraw就不用withhold tax.

?要做Tax planning,要做?Register的投儋╋也要做些non-Register的投儋。

呃?算的?╋RRSP就?理由不偕了?
 
再补充一点。

如果自己投资的话,每年的CG或interest/dividends 都要交税。 所以比如说第一年2000*1.06=2102
如果按CG的话,102*50%*(6.05%+15%)=10.74 那第一年的税后回报就是 102-10.74=91.26.
这样第二年的principal就只有 2000+91.26=2091.26 这样累积的话,35年后回报肯定少于2000*1.06^35=$12136. 而这些return在RRSP里面是不用立即交税的(可以延后)。所以,如果长期投资的话,RRSP还是有利的

比如,如果我们每年都按CG算的话,6%的税后回报应该是
6%-6%*50%*(6.05%+15%)=5.3585% 如此的话,35年的return就应该是
2000-2000*50%*(0.0605+0.15)=1579*(1.053585)^35=$9,813<$10760.4(RRSP)

很显然,对于低收入家庭来说回报依然是RRSP高。如果用interest(100% tax)或dividend(Div*1.25*13.33% tax credit)来算的话,两者的差距将会更大
 
那个withholding tax不是最终的税率。

搂住这点上有点误解吧。
 
后退
顶部