CHINA WILL BE A BIGGER BUBBLE THAN JAPAN

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http://pragcap.com/china-will-be-a-bigger-bubble-than-japan

Superb analysis out of SocGen analysts this morning. Dylan Grice says the Chinese economy has many similarities to the Japanese economy before it imploded in the 90’s. He cites 8 reasons why the Chinese economy is likely to be an even larger implosion than the Japanese economy:
Studying the lessons from Japan’s lost decade(s) is key for anyone seeking to understand today’s post-bubble world. But a closer reading of Japan’s financial history illuminates today’s China far more. In the early 1980s, on the eve of its financial liberalisation, Japan was the rising power from the East set to overtake the West. Younger and growing rapidly, it was still a decade away from its climactic and catastrophic bubble peak. This is where China is now.
  • Japan’s deflationary experience since its bubble burst haunts policy makers and investors, who are confronted with a bewildering range of theories explaining what has gone wrong and how a similar scenario can or can’t be avoided.
  • But the real cause of Japan’s deflation is probably more demographic than debt-related. If so, maybe we should be more worried about the side-effects of an ongoing stimulus overdose aimed at reviving the dead, rather than fighting a more ordinary bout of flu.
  • Japan has been the first industrial economy to begin demographic contraction. Indeed, thanks to Deng Xiaoping’s 1979 one child policy, China will soon face the same problem.
  • But it is unlikely China will suffer the same immediate fate. In fact, further reflection on the similarities between China and Japan leads one to realise that many of the challenges confronting China today have already been faced by Japan, demography being only one.
  • From the strained currency diplomacy to the accusation of favouring exports over domestic demand, from the Western marvelling at Confucian capitalism to the sense of inevitability about the rising of a great power in the East … all were as true for Japan 30 years ago as they are of China today.
  • And Japan 30 or so years ago might be a more fruitful analogy altogether. There is a clear historic coincidence of manias and geopolitical shifts. In the 1980s, Japan’s developing financial bubble reflected a shifting of the balance of power in its direction.
  • But the geopolitical shift towards China now underway dwarfs that seen in Japan in the 1980s, and probably anything yet seen in the history of the modern world. A commensurately seismic mania would lead to excesses beyond all proportion to the periodic bouts of frothiness seen so far.
  • Japan’s experience also hints at what may be the future catalyst unleashing this frenzy: capital account liberalisation. Financial history is filled with financial liberalisations gone wrong and Japan’s bubble can be traced directly to the removal of controls on international capital flows and banking in the early 1980s. Seeking a larger international role for the renminbi, China is now, albeit tentatively, embarking on a similar path. Full liberalisation, when it occurs, could be the starting gun for the biggest bubble the world has ever seen.
 
I do not agree with this article. But China may need to be prepared for or prevent from this scenario.
 
别的方面不敢苟同,但中国几乎所有大型城市的房市确实是一个很大的泡泡。这个泡泡的程度可以用一个尺度来衡量:房屋平均价格和城市居民平均收入的比,可以说是超过任何时期的任何一个国家
 
泡沫比较大的好像还是那些移民、流动人口多的城市。。

沈阳、武汉我就看不出来有什么泡沫。。但是北京确实过了,最近还在涨。沈阳好地段的好房子也不过6、7千,想买一个,可是谁都说没有什么涨的潜力,也没有什么人租。。

近期回国,在华中地区发现政府在大把大把的撒钱啊。。那路和桥修的,相当的狠。。说是一公里按照一个亿来打算,包括买地修路。。

别的方面不敢苟同,但中国几乎所有大型城市的房市确实是一个很大的泡泡。这个泡泡的程度可以用一个尺度来衡量:房屋平均价格和城市居民平均收入的比,可以说是超过任何时期的任何一个国家
 
the bubble is too big to blowup
 
泡沫是吹出来的,是资本主义的恶劣宣传手法。凡不是真实的东西都有破灭的危险。
 
泡沫是吹出来的,是资本主义的恶劣宣传手法。凡不是真实的东西都有破灭的危险。
自由市场经济就是泡沫经济。股市就是泡沫的发酵剂。别看gdp多牛多牛,都是泡泡。
 
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