股沟自己已经招了, 被黑的是藏独疆独网络 ZT

[northernwolf]

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/14/technology/14google.html?hp=&pagewanted=all

"In early January, Tenzin Seldon, a 20-year-old Stanford student and Tibetan
activist, was told by university officials to contact Google because her
Gmail account had been hacked.
Ms. Seldon, the Indian-born daughter of Tibetan refugees, said she
immediately contacted David Drummond, Google’s chief legal officer.

“David informed me that my account was hacked by someone in China,” Ms.
Seldon said in a telephone interview. “They were concerned and asked
whether they could see my laptop.”

Ms. Seldon immediately changed her password and became more careful of what
she wrote. She also allowed Google to examine her personal computer at the
company’s request. Google returned it earlier this week saying that while
no viruses or malware had been detected, her account had indeed been entered
surreptitiously. Google confirmed Ms. Seldon’s account of events, but
declined to say whether it had notified other activists who might have been
victims of hacking."

 

[zhao0308]

美国人出事后第一思維习惯是找借口. before google entered China, google知中国现状, now 退出 needs a 借口.

普京向中国靠近了. 李光耀发明的. 美国政府知其合理性. Google just need a 借口. That is all.

 

[zhao0308]

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/14/technology/14google.html?hp=&pagewanted=all

"In early January, Tenzin Seldon, a 20-year-old Stanford student and Tibetan
activist, was told by university officials to contact Google because her
Gmail account had been hacked.
Ms. Seldon, the Indian-born daughter of Tibetan refugees, said she
immediately contacted David Drummond, Google’s chief legal officer.

“David informed me that my account was hacked by someone in China,” Ms.
Seldon said in a telephone interview. “They were concerned and asked
whether they could see my laptop.”

Ms. Seldon immediately changed her password and became more careful of what
she wrote. She also allowed Google to examine her personal computer at the
company’s request. Google returned it earlier this week saying that while
no viruses or malware had been detected, her account had indeed been entered
surreptitiously. Google confirmed Ms. Seldon’s account of events, but
declined to say whether it had notified other activists who might have been
victims of hacking."

northernwolf 回来了, 士气大振ing, 干死反华分子.

 

[zhao0308]

northernwolf 回来了, 士气大振ing, 干死反华分子

 

[zhao0308]

搞商业还是搞政治？谷歌自绝于中国市场
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搞商业还是搞政治？谷歌自绝于中国市场

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环球时报 2010-01-14 17:16:28

　　谷歌是个互联网公司，名气很大，块头更大，其商业模式在世界范围内获得成功。但它现在的架势让人看不懂了。它向中国提出了政治要求，而这种事情通常是大的商业公司极力避免的。


　　两天来，谷歌威胁要退出中国市场，一些西方媒体发出赞扬，并迅速把这一事件变成了批判中国的好机会。美国国务卿希拉里站出来指责中国，国会议员发出更加刺耳的声音。在这一事件中，谷歌处于风暴的中心，而且它的角色明显在变。

　　起先，谷歌抱怨的原因是服务器受到“攻击”，后来，竟演变成要让中国取消“网络审查”。从互联网安全的一个普遍问题，跳到了要要求中国改变法律。这一跳真是让中国人吃惊。

　　谷歌究竟是在做商业，还是在搞政治？如果是商业，那就应当限定在商业范畴。有纠纷不要紧，可以通过商业的途径来解决，但要是想通过商业行为来影响中国政治大局和社会改革进程，那可就完全改变了事件的性质。

　　当前，中国互联网上的管理有一些争议，但怎么改，要充分尊重中国的现状，也要以中国社会的承受力为基本判断标准。

　　中国社会目前已经相当开放，互联网的成长不断激励着它，今后的中国只能更加开放。但是，任何开放都是有度的，而且开放要有一个进程，不可能一蹴而就。中国的门该开多大，路该怎么铺，要中国人自己来设计、安排，外界怎么说，只能作为参考。一个互联网公司，即便拥有最先进的技术，最丰厚的资金，就想左右这一进程，都是狂妄的。

　　谷歌在中国经营三年多，但似乎对中国的历史与现实了解的程度还很低。中国是主权国家，不是19世纪时的租界，外国企业没有治外法权。在中国经商，想游离于中国法律之外，是对21世纪中国的误读。西方社会、跨国公司对中国建设性的批评和善意的主张，是有助于中国发展的。但如果背后隐藏政治企图，并想用一种威胁的方式来迫使中国就范，根本行不通。

　　谷歌要中国取消网络审查制度，其结果只能像美国“Mashable”网站的一篇文章所说：“如果有人幻想中国会改变政策，让人无限制地接触反动、淫秽图片等内容，那纯粹是无稽之谈。”

　　中国这些年一直在西方某些人的鞭笞和叫骂声中成长，谷歌威胁引来更多责难没什么可怕的。倒是这一次西方媒体对谷歌威胁退出一边倒地叫好，让中国民众不能不多一层警惕之心。

　　英国《卫报》预测，如果谷歌摊牌，互联网世界将分裂。中国当然不希望这种分裂，但也不怕任何麻烦，更不能被这种预言所挟持。在谷歌威胁面前，中国社会必须要团结。

　　许多中国民众都愿意使用谷歌的搜索业务。没有谷歌在中国的业务，可能会暂时影响到一些中国人的网络生活。所以，我们欢迎谷歌留下，但留下来的谷歌必须要做出调整，也要适应中国的法律。如果谷歌坚持要退出，没什么了不起。退出，是自绝于中国市场。（金灿荣，作者是中国人民大学国际关系学院副院长。）

 

[northernwolf]

northernwolf 回来了, 士气大振ing, 干死反华分子

别介，我是来消遣的。凑个热闹。和谁也没有仇，和故狗更没仇。
就事论事，心平气和。

 

[zhao0308]

《泰晤士报》的社评说，中国政府不屈服于外交和商业压力，相信自己是资本主义的模范，与西方自由民主模式竞争。这是新加坡李光耀首先订立的极权式资本主义走向繁荣的模式，认为自由和权利只是损害经济增长的奢侈品。俄罗斯目前正朝这个方向走。 ...

 

[councilor]

头两年，一个新泽西的80多岁的老头，在网上发牢骚，说小布什发动战争，真该死。第二天就被FBI找去问讯了一番。

有出处吗？

 

[councilor]

我两年多前看的新闻。那老头被问讯过后，就放了。

我不会把所有看过的新闻都存下来。所以没法给你出处。

加拿大怎样，不知道，但在美国，政府有权不经过法院，而直接监听私人的通信。

"头两年，一个新泽西的80多岁的老头，在网上发牢骚，说小布什发动战争，真该死。第二天就被FBI找去问讯了一番"

老头仅仅是说了“真该死”？所以问你出处。

 

[councilor]

当时我看的新闻没说。

有出处吗？

 

[northernwolf]

有出处吗？

小Ｃ又装清纯，你不是老提醒大家ＲＣＭＰ要请喝茶吗？
我还是从你那儿知道北美的网络被过滤呢。

 

[ai']

用chrome地址栏打个6就能出来64什么的。。google还真是彻底破罐破摔了啊。

 

[Fisher2004]

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/14/technology/14google.html?hp=&pagewanted=all

"In early January, Tenzin Seldon, a 20-year-old Stanford student and Tibetan
activist, was told by university officials to contact Google because her
Gmail account had been hacked.
Ms. Seldon, the Indian-born daughter of Tibetan refugees, said she
immediately contacted David Drummond, Google’s chief legal officer.

“David informed me that my account was hacked by someone in China,” Ms.
Seldon said in a telephone interview. “They were concerned and asked
whether they could see my laptop.”

Ms. Seldon immediately changed her password and became more careful of what
she wrote. She also allowed Google to examine her personal computer at the
company’s request. Google returned it earlier this week saying that while
no viruses or malware had been detected, her account had indeed been entered
surreptitiously. Google confirmed Ms. Seldon’s account of events, but
declined to say whether it had notified other activists who might have been
victims of hacking."

建议全面封杀狗狗（Google.com ），以促其全面破产。

 

[Fisher2004]

有出处吗？

小C又在装天真了。