北电正式申请破产保护,股票代号NT已经被纽约证券交易所取消.

NT is back to $7 above!!!!

Don't be fooled by Wall Street crooks. Whenever all the news are negative, be careful!
 
NT is back to $7 above!!!!

Don't be fooled by Wall Street crooks. Whenever all the news are negative, be careful!

Hmm...If they could fool you before,how do you know they are not fooling you today?

Or there isn't too much fooling at all because people worth to fool are as smart as those crooks themselves(its an efficient market,isn't it?),and people can be fooled are not worth to fool at all.The Wall Street crooks do have some cards to play,unfortunately the cards are given to them,not created by themselves.

See the link below for the reason of today's rise:
Nortel 40G Optical Solution Enables TDC to Meet Skyrocketing Bandwidth Demands Across Europe: Financial News - Yahoo! Finance
 
Hmm...If they could fool you before,how do you know they are not fooling you today?

Or there isn't too much fooling at all because people worth to fool are as smart as those crooks themselves(its an efficient market,isn't it?),and people can be fooled are not worth to fool at all.The Wall Street crooks do have some cards to play,unfortunately the cards are given to them,not created by themselves.

See the link below for the reason of today's rise:
Nortel 40G Optical Solution Enables TDC to Meet Skyrocketing Bandwidth Demands Across Europe: Financial News - Yahoo! Finance


Here is how I understand "efficient market". Yes, to some extents, market is very efficient in a way that investors and traders can get in and out quickly enough with the help of internet and electrical paperless trading system. But the big manipulators have much broader resources and machines to implement their plotted manipulation. Small investors and shareholders are still very easy to be shaked out from the train.

Back to all the news sources about NT from beginning of the year to now, almost 95%+ were negative. I have many years of knowledge and research on NT that makes me convinced that NT has "some" values, not worthless, s*cker, or BK candidate which are what these manipulators expect NT to be perceived.

40G is not a new technology, but Nortel has more news candidates like this 40G. I am not saying this news is irrelavant, instead I think mid-term play with certain protection on positions would be best.

Talk about "fool" or "being fooled". No one is smart enough not being fooled at any chance. It is possibility which matters. When NT hit over-priced $100, mid or long term short/put would have edge over long/call; vice versa, long/call NT at $0.6-0.7 will have much larger winning possibility eventhough it could go (much) lower.
 
现在夜间日元/瑞郎/欧元对美元狂升,大盘很不乐观.2000亿国债抵押看来市场效果有待观察,还有一波往下的走势.各位小心.谨慎乐观吧.

US兑日元接近100了.如果跌破这个心理关口,很不好.
 
NT从120跌到80后一位NT股东持续购入直至20,已经倾其所有了,该老兄一直认为 现在已经很低了(比120),然后看到很快又跌到了10,感叹说,“没钱了,否则一定再购入,从20跌到10比当年从80跌到40,和从40跌到20幅度小多了,该回升了”。
事实上是从80跌到40,从40跌到20和从20跌到10的幅度是一样的都是50%
现在从7跌到1与从49跌到7的幅度也是一样的。
按目前业绩与管理水平,2008从7跌到3的可能性是很大的,当然按照马克贼的说法要做#1,#2很可能跌到2。
2007,alcatel, Erricson,等都跌50%,NT就按领导要求做了做#1,跌了75%
 
NT.TO hits C$6.3 new low again today (Mar 13, 2008) at TSX, it was dragged by Bear Stearn(BSC)'s emergent request (48 hours!) for FED and JP-Morgan's assistance to avoid being liquidated.

It is very close to the stage that weakest one in a sector could be out of business. CHINA lost $3-5B on BSC in 3 months!!!
BSC meltdown will scare away Chinese investors for at least 3-6 months.
 
等到3.6就开始收 :lol:
 
NT.TO hits C$6.3 new low again today (Mar 13, 2008) at TSX, it was dragged by Bear Stearn(BSC)'s emergent request (48 hours!) for FED and JP-Morgan's assistance to avoid being liquidated.

It is very close to the stage that weakest one in a sector could be out of business. CHINA lost $3-5B on BSC in 3 months!!!
BSC meltdown will scare away Chinese investors for at least 3-6 months.
我记得中信和BSC的交易总额就是1B,而且是股票对换,交叉持股.
 
我记得中信和BSC的交易总额就是1B,而且是股票对换,交叉持股.

你说的对,中信是$1B,今天中信说它不想玩合资了.看来钱还没有付出去,不过BLACKSTONE的就打水漂了.
中投在Morgan Stanley的$5B,看来要用来救火了,看中国还有没有信心继续玩下去.


China's CITIC says not sure of Bear Stearns deal | Markets | Markets News | Reuters
China's CITIC says not sure of Bear Stearns deal

Sat Mar 15, 2008 11:31am EDT




SHANGHAI, March 15 (Reuters) - China's CITIC Securities (600030.SS: Quote, Profile, Research) said on Saturday it could not guarantee it would complete a deal to invest about $1 billion in Bear Stearns (BSC.N: Quote, Profile, Research) given the U.S. investment bank's financial crisis.
On Friday, Bear hammered out an emergency funding deal with the U.S. Federal Reserve and JPMorgan Chase, saying its liquidity position had deteriorated.
"Our company has noticed the recent financing arrangement between Bear Stearns, JP Morgan Chase and other financial institutions, and we have also considered factors including the sharp fall in Bear Stearns' share price," said CITIC Securities, China's largest listed brokerage.
"We cannot guarantee reaching a final agreement in the future," it said in a statement emailed to Reuters in response to media enquiries.
Last October, Bear and CITIC Securities announced plans to invest about $1 billion in each other and form a joint banking venture in Asia. (Reporting by George Chen; Writing by Andrew Torchia)
 
中国现在应该出面继续救火,不是非要去填美国房贷的窟窿.而是帮助鼓励国内有实力的企业对外扩张和兼并美国有潜力的企业.NAZDAQ很多公司有相当的潜质,现在都被这金融风暴波及,很多公司股票已经接近2002年的水平.其实很多公司有正的现金流,市场占有率很高.

中国多年外汇顺差只能就地结汇,引发人民币空前泛滥,现在国内通货膨胀.把美元花出去,参股好的美企.中美两家经济上携手,才能共霸天下.
 
BSC今天晚上MAR16,2008晚上被JP MORGAN以$2一股全收.

周五收盘时还持有BSC股票的就惨不忍睹了,周五BSC收于$30.

就是说BSC股东被迫接受$2一股,那就是损失28/30 = 93.333%

一个周末就损93.33%,真是杀人不见血.

DOW明天可能有500点跌幅

JPMorgan to Buy Bear for $2 a Share: Financial News - Yahoo! Finance

JPMorgan to Buy Bear for $2 a Share
Sunday March 16, 7:36 pm ET
By Joe Bel Bruno and Madlen Read, AP Business Writers JPMorgan Says It Will Buy Ailing Bear Stearns in a Deal Valued at $236.2 Million

NEW YORK (AP) -- JPMorgan Chase said Sunday it will acquire rival Bear Stearns in a deal valued at $236.2 million, a stunning collapse for one of the world's largest and most venerable investment banks.



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JPMorgan Chase & Co. said the $2 a share, all-stock deal has received the required approvals from the federal government and the Federal Reserve. Bear Stearns shares close Friday at $30 a share.
The Fed will provide special financing to JPMorgan Chase for the deal, JPMorgan Chase said. The central bank has agreed to fund up to $30 billion of Bear Stearns' less liquid assets.
At almost the same time as the deal for control of Bear Stearns was announced, the Federal Reserve said it approved a cut in its lending rate to banks to 3.25 percent from 3.50 percent and created another lending facility for big investment banks. The central bank's official meeting is on Tuesday. Before the emergency move to lower the discount rate, which is the rate at which banks lend each other money, the Fed was widely expected to again cut its headline rate by as much as a full point to 2 percent.
The announcement from both the Fed and JPMorgan comes ahead of what some analysts expected to be a brutal day for global stocks. Already, before the announcements, New Zealand's markets opened drastically lower -- then began to recover after the deal was unveiled.
A collapse of Bear Stearns could have created a further crisis of confidence in world financial markets amid a deepening credit crunch. JPMorgan's acquisition of Bear Stearns represents roughly 1 percent of what the investment bank was worth just 16 days ago.
The deal represented a 93.3 percent discount to Bear Stearns' market capitalization as of Friday, and roughly a 98.8 percent discount to its book value as of Feb. 29.
"The past week has been an incredibly difficult time for Bear Stearns," said Bear Stearns Chief Executive Alan Schwartz in a statement. "This represents the best outcome for all of our constituencies based upon the current circumstances."
 
北方电讯股票破多仑多证券交易所历史新低

$5.85 during the day. $5.96 close. Will it be lower? You bet.
 
玩的就是心跳. NT可能往U$4.3一头载下去,也有可能一日逆转.

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就象两个剑客华山论剑,NT哥哥已经被华儿街妹妹逼到了悬崖峭壁边上,
华儿街妹妹对NT说:"你服不服?割肉不?"
NT哥哥说:"就是不投降"
华儿街妹妹的剑锋已经破了NT的衣襟,
NT哥哥大叫:"师傅救我!"
师傅是否会出手相救,且听下回分解.
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明天FED降息,我估计有-1%,应该有个反弹,大家保重吧.华儿街妹妹坏着呢.没事别招惹她.
 
今天看Business Channel,据一个投资顾问采访时说,美国的问题不会停留在Bear Sterm上,还会进一步恶化。美国只有上世纪30年代Fed才干预过投资银行。那一次有1000(?)家公司倒闭,进入大萧条。美国的问题是Sub-mortage。据说是1块钱的资本,被当作30块钱的投资。那个专家说加拿大的银行也有类似的问题,就是1块钱的资本被当作几块钱来投资的。美国的危机会引发加拿大和全球的经济危机。
 
美联储原则上不可以干预投资银行,他们是做商业银行的llender of last resort,可没有义务拯救投行。因此Fed最初的紧急注资也是必须通过JPM来完成的。
BSC相信是第一家的开始。
这些CDO, CDS, ABCP,金融杠杆作用发挥到了及至,现在还是没人知道, 这个单子有多大,也不知道最后这个单到底是谁买了,各自分担买了多少。这才是这次问题的关键所在。
 
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