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不单是故障率。其实美国车在可靠性方面早已经赶上来了。很多年前Buick Centrey的故障率就低过所有同级别的日本车。
头些年，在小级别车子的安全测试上，日本车一直好过美国车。所以有好多喜欢美国车的人讲，日本车是比着IISH crash test做的。其实，看看人家做试验的照片，还是有些名堂的。日本车设计比较细，被撞的时候没什么东西挤到passanger compartment里面伤人。
不好意思，我的那些知识都老化了，这些年，IISH的测试标准更新了，厂家的技术也进步了。不知道又有什么新玩意儿出来。
how I compared?
Idiot.
Just compare the numbers in that report.
Example: 50 > 30
in addition, is Chevy aveo much bigger than
Toyota yaris or f-150 much bigger than Toyota tundra?
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完了，这下可完了。我这车保费特高
自我安慰一把，以我之心来度保险公司之腹。第一，保险公司统计伤亡事故的时候，也许不那么关心伤的是自己一方还是事故的另一方。第二，财产损失的赔偿额度虽低，但比例高。多数索赔只是修修车。
完了，这下可完了。我这车保费特高
自我安慰一把，以我之心来度保险公司之腹。第一，保险公司统计伤亡事故的时候，也许不那么关心伤的是自己一方还是事故的另一方。第二，伤亡事故赔偿虽多，但比例低。更多的索赔是要修车。
大卡, 我专门问过, 不幸的是保险公司主要看伤亡赔偿
这么地吧, 我就私人化一下, 透点银丝, 我个人资讯2个车, 一个是日本车, 另个是欧洲车, 欧洲车价格比日车贵多了(几乎double ), 我以为保险欧洲车也会贵多了, 结果欧洲车的保险比日本车便宜, 我实在不可理解, 欧洲车修理比日本车贵是谁都知道的啊, 问保险公司,保险公司告诉我那款欧洲车安全,出车祸比例低, 平均赔偿少
你自己想想, 一个贵车, 一个便宜车, 哪个车修理索赔高?
前些日子别人追我尾, 简单碰一下, 连修理(人工贵, 配件要等,所以租车时间长)带租车, 干掉3千多刀.
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是否容易出事故，和开着是否安全，还是稍稍有点区别。比如跑车，车主多是年轻（起码心态年轻）并喜欢玩飘的，而mini van的车主多是拖家带口的。Minivan的保费比跑车低很多，这并不是因为mini van本身比跑车安全。
我的车不是跑车，而且是靠安全出名，可保险费照样挺高。只能怪我倒霉了。
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不能这么比啊。欧洲车，日车，车的价格差多少，安全性当然有差别。不光是指重量，材料，还有很多其它因素，气囊数量，底盘设计，steering系统，故障指示，还有很多。。。
我家开过的４辆车，原来GM的cavallier就和corolla保险一样。
我不是专家，文科的，比基础墙他们懂得少多了，不过我身边一抓就一 个专家，也能了解到很多业内资料，说真的，我高不懂也记不住那些解释的原因，就知道些结论。
大家应该主要纠结的是日车和美国车大众型的，欧洲好点的车，买的人还是少多了。去中文学校看看，有几辆欧洲车？
９９球迷，估计您讨论和咨询的车，和很多人心中的疑问沾不上边。
我家开过的４辆车，原来GM的cavallier就和corolla保险一样。
我不是专家，文科的，比基础墙他们懂得少多了，不过我身边一抓就一 个专家，也能了解到很多业内资料，说真的，我高不懂也记不住那些解释的原因，就知道些结论。
大家应该主要纠结的是日车和美国车大众型的，欧洲好点的车，买的人还是少多了。去中文学校看看，有几辆欧洲车？
９９球迷，估计您讨论和咨询的车，和很多人心中的疑问沾不上边。
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The 20 most dangerous vehicles on the road
Forget crash tests and simulations - based on real-world data, these are the 20 least-safe cars and trucks:
20. Hyundai Elantra (80 deaths per million )
Type: Four-door car, small
It seems like the smaller end of the size spectrum doesn't hold up as well in crashes as bigger cars. The Hyundai Elantra unfortunately suffers in its score from not having standard safety systems like ABS and traction control. According to the IIHS, it suffered most in multi-vehicle crashes compared to its class rivals.
19 Ford Ranger (81)
Type: 2WD pickup, small
The Ford Ranger has been essentially unchanged for nearly 20 years now, and while it has been updated with some basic safety features, it still lags far behind the latest technology. Like the Elantra, its deaths in multi-vehicle collisions were far and away the worst small rear-wheel-drive pickup. While many will complain over its departure from the market for its fuel-efficiency and affordable pricetag, the roads will be a safer place.
18 Nissan Maxima (82)
Type: Four-door car, midsize
It's unclear why the midsize Nissan Maxima scores so poorly, but its single-vehicle crash scores are some of the poorest around. In fact, it's the first of six Nissan products to appear on the list of unsafe vehicles, which isn't the most encouraging fact for new buyers to discover.
17 Mitsubishi Galant (82)
Type: Four-door car, midsize
The mid-sized Galant sedan is departing the market soon, and judging by these numbers, it won't be soon enough. Built on an aging chassis that was never a cutting edge design, the Mitsubishi never had the sophisticated safety systems of its peers.
16 Mitsubishi Eclipse (83)
Type: Two-door car, midsize
Seeing as the Eclipse is based on the same mechanicals as the Galant sedan, it's not surprising that this two-door coupe has the same issues with crash-worthiness. It does very poorly in single-vehicle crashes and has a shockingly large rollover ratio for what's supposed to be a car with a low centre of gravity.
15 Subaru Legacy (83)
Type: Four-door car, midsize
Surprisingly, the all-wheel-drive Subaru Legacy perhaps isn't as safe and robust as its advertising suggests. The generation covered by the study is smaller in stature compared to the current version, which might have affected the results.
14 Mazda Miata MX-5 (83)
Type: Sports car, mini
It's no surprise that the Mazda MX-5 is on the list - and that multi-vehicle accidents are where the trouble comes. This roadster is small and light, and the driver is very exposed to larger traffic. MX-5 drivers try to use their car's nimble responses to avoid collisions instead.
13 Kia Spectra (87)
Type: Four-door car, small
Kia's basic Spectra suffers from the same issues as its Hyundai Elantra cousin, namely a lack of standard ABS or stability control. It was also built to a price, not to lead the class. Equally dangerous in both single- and multi-car crashes. Hopefully its successor, the Kia Forte, will fare better in the next study.
12 Kia Rio (89)
Type: Four-door car, mini
A basic sub-compact sold with minimal safety features as standard, the Kia Rio has the worst record for multi-car crash deaths amongst its class. What's perhaps even stranger is that the mechanically identical Hyundai Accent has nearly a third fewer deaths, and leads the class in that regard.
11 Nissan Titan crew cab (92)
Type: 4WD pickup, large
Nissan's brave attempt to take on the Detroit Three at their own game never really hit its stride, and the company hasn't really done much to keep the four-wheel-drive Titan updated since its introduction. Another bizarre fact: the Titan has far more deaths in both single- and multi-vehicle collisions than the Nissan Armada, which made the top 20 safest vehicles list.
10 Chevrolet Colorado Extended Cab (93)
Type: 2WD pickup, small
GM's small pickup twins aren't noted for their solidity, durability or advanced design. In fact, they're pretty rudimentary. Those facts don't help the Colorado - although only in Extended Cab versions - which scored the worst out of all the small two-wheel-drive pickups in the study.
9 Nissan Versa (96)
Type: Four-door car small
Like the other small cars on the list, the Nissan Versa sedan comes in a very basic spec without even power windows. The lack of ABS or stability control makes it a prime target for single-vehicle crashes, and its relative lack of mass means it has less defence against bigger vehicles in a collision.
8 Hyundai Tiburon (96)
Type: Two-door car small
The last Hyundai Tiburon was left relatively unchanged for most of its eight-year run and was never the safest vehicle when introduced. Sharing its basic platform with the third-generation Elantra, its lack of standard stability control and poor visibility could have contributed to its inflated single-vehicle death scores.
7 Chevrolet Malibu Classic (99)
Type: Four-door car, midsize
When the current Chevrolet Malibu was introduced, General Motors continued to sell the older version as the Classic to fleets. The difference between the two is night and day - current is a third less likely to kill someone, and the latter is by far the worst mid-sized car in the survey. Just goes to show what five years of research and development can do to even a mainstream model.
6 Kia Spectra5 (102)
Type: Station wagon, small
The Spectra5 has the dishonour of being the first vehicle to break into three digits for death figures. Unlike its sedan sibling, this Kia does terribly in multi-vehicle collisions and poorly in singles. All of which can be blamed on low-price engineering and a lack of standard electronic safety features.
5 Nissan Titan extended cab (111)
Type: 2WD pickup, large
This is the second Titan to be featured on this list, but not the last. Seems to be a trend here ... This truck specializes in single-vehicle collisions and rollovers.
4 Chevrolet Cobalt (117)
Type: Four-door car, small
The pride of rental fleets everywhere, the Chevrolet Cobalt leaves behind an absolutely terrible record for driver deaths. Equally adept in both single- and multi-car collisions, it has more than double the score of the class-leading Toyota Prius and Mazda3 sedan. Thankfully, it's been replaced by the much more modern Cruze which boasts standard stability control and 10 airbags.
3 Chevrolet Aveo (119)
Type: Four-door car, mini
The third-worst score belongs to GM's Chevrolet Aveo, which has the highest number of deaths for cars where you can fit more than two people. Split equally between lone driver deaths and multi-vehicle crashes, certainly, its stats could have been improved by featuring ABS brakes as standard (they were a costly option), and stability control which wasn't even offered.
2 Nissan Titan crew cab (126)
Type: 2WD, pickup large
Nissan wins the booby prize with its full-size Titan pickup, with two body-styles and two drive variations all coming up snake eyes. It is six times (!) more likely to kill someone compared to the class-leading Toyota Tundra. According to the IIHS's stats, the Titan loves rolling over more often than an old Golden Retriever.
1 Nissan 350Z
Type: Two-door sports car, midsize
Nissan's iconic Z-car has a terrible record of people dying while behind the wheel. For whatever reason, accidents are twice as likely to end in a fatality as a Corvette, and twice as likely to roll, too. All come equipped with ABS and stability control, so hard to point the finger there. Perhaps an owner base that enjoys travelling sideways too much?
http://autos.ca.msn.com/editors-picks/gallery.aspx?cp-documentid=29156678
Forget crash tests and simulations - based on real-world data, these are the 20 least-safe cars and trucks:
20. Hyundai Elantra (80 deaths per million )
Type: Four-door car, small
It seems like the smaller end of the size spectrum doesn't hold up as well in crashes as bigger cars. The Hyundai Elantra unfortunately suffers in its score from not having standard safety systems like ABS and traction control. According to the IIHS, it suffered most in multi-vehicle crashes compared to its class rivals.
19 Ford Ranger (81)
Type: 2WD pickup, small
The Ford Ranger has been essentially unchanged for nearly 20 years now, and while it has been updated with some basic safety features, it still lags far behind the latest technology. Like the Elantra, its deaths in multi-vehicle collisions were far and away the worst small rear-wheel-drive pickup. While many will complain over its departure from the market for its fuel-efficiency and affordable pricetag, the roads will be a safer place.
18 Nissan Maxima (82)
Type: Four-door car, midsize
It's unclear why the midsize Nissan Maxima scores so poorly, but its single-vehicle crash scores are some of the poorest around. In fact, it's the first of six Nissan products to appear on the list of unsafe vehicles, which isn't the most encouraging fact for new buyers to discover.
17 Mitsubishi Galant (82)
Type: Four-door car, midsize
The mid-sized Galant sedan is departing the market soon, and judging by these numbers, it won't be soon enough. Built on an aging chassis that was never a cutting edge design, the Mitsubishi never had the sophisticated safety systems of its peers.
16 Mitsubishi Eclipse (83)
Type: Two-door car, midsize
Seeing as the Eclipse is based on the same mechanicals as the Galant sedan, it's not surprising that this two-door coupe has the same issues with crash-worthiness. It does very poorly in single-vehicle crashes and has a shockingly large rollover ratio for what's supposed to be a car with a low centre of gravity.
15 Subaru Legacy (83)
Type: Four-door car, midsize
Surprisingly, the all-wheel-drive Subaru Legacy perhaps isn't as safe and robust as its advertising suggests. The generation covered by the study is smaller in stature compared to the current version, which might have affected the results.
14 Mazda Miata MX-5 (83)
Type: Sports car, mini
It's no surprise that the Mazda MX-5 is on the list - and that multi-vehicle accidents are where the trouble comes. This roadster is small and light, and the driver is very exposed to larger traffic. MX-5 drivers try to use their car's nimble responses to avoid collisions instead.
13 Kia Spectra (87)
Type: Four-door car, small
Kia's basic Spectra suffers from the same issues as its Hyundai Elantra cousin, namely a lack of standard ABS or stability control. It was also built to a price, not to lead the class. Equally dangerous in both single- and multi-car crashes. Hopefully its successor, the Kia Forte, will fare better in the next study.
12 Kia Rio (89)
Type: Four-door car, mini
A basic sub-compact sold with minimal safety features as standard, the Kia Rio has the worst record for multi-car crash deaths amongst its class. What's perhaps even stranger is that the mechanically identical Hyundai Accent has nearly a third fewer deaths, and leads the class in that regard.
11 Nissan Titan crew cab (92)
Type: 4WD pickup, large
Nissan's brave attempt to take on the Detroit Three at their own game never really hit its stride, and the company hasn't really done much to keep the four-wheel-drive Titan updated since its introduction. Another bizarre fact: the Titan has far more deaths in both single- and multi-vehicle collisions than the Nissan Armada, which made the top 20 safest vehicles list.
10 Chevrolet Colorado Extended Cab (93)
Type: 2WD pickup, small
GM's small pickup twins aren't noted for their solidity, durability or advanced design. In fact, they're pretty rudimentary. Those facts don't help the Colorado - although only in Extended Cab versions - which scored the worst out of all the small two-wheel-drive pickups in the study.
9 Nissan Versa (96)
Type: Four-door car small
Like the other small cars on the list, the Nissan Versa sedan comes in a very basic spec without even power windows. The lack of ABS or stability control makes it a prime target for single-vehicle crashes, and its relative lack of mass means it has less defence against bigger vehicles in a collision.
8 Hyundai Tiburon (96)
Type: Two-door car small
The last Hyundai Tiburon was left relatively unchanged for most of its eight-year run and was never the safest vehicle when introduced. Sharing its basic platform with the third-generation Elantra, its lack of standard stability control and poor visibility could have contributed to its inflated single-vehicle death scores.
7 Chevrolet Malibu Classic (99)
Type: Four-door car, midsize
When the current Chevrolet Malibu was introduced, General Motors continued to sell the older version as the Classic to fleets. The difference between the two is night and day - current is a third less likely to kill someone, and the latter is by far the worst mid-sized car in the survey. Just goes to show what five years of research and development can do to even a mainstream model.
6 Kia Spectra5 (102)
Type: Station wagon, small
The Spectra5 has the dishonour of being the first vehicle to break into three digits for death figures. Unlike its sedan sibling, this Kia does terribly in multi-vehicle collisions and poorly in singles. All of which can be blamed on low-price engineering and a lack of standard electronic safety features.
5 Nissan Titan extended cab (111)
Type: 2WD pickup, large
This is the second Titan to be featured on this list, but not the last. Seems to be a trend here ... This truck specializes in single-vehicle collisions and rollovers.
4 Chevrolet Cobalt (117)
Type: Four-door car, small
The pride of rental fleets everywhere, the Chevrolet Cobalt leaves behind an absolutely terrible record for driver deaths. Equally adept in both single- and multi-car collisions, it has more than double the score of the class-leading Toyota Prius and Mazda3 sedan. Thankfully, it's been replaced by the much more modern Cruze which boasts standard stability control and 10 airbags.
3 Chevrolet Aveo (119)
Type: Four-door car, mini
The third-worst score belongs to GM's Chevrolet Aveo, which has the highest number of deaths for cars where you can fit more than two people. Split equally between lone driver deaths and multi-vehicle crashes, certainly, its stats could have been improved by featuring ABS brakes as standard (they were a costly option), and stability control which wasn't even offered.
2 Nissan Titan crew cab (126)
Type: 2WD, pickup large
Nissan wins the booby prize with its full-size Titan pickup, with two body-styles and two drive variations all coming up snake eyes. It is six times (!) more likely to kill someone compared to the class-leading Toyota Tundra. According to the IIHS's stats, the Titan loves rolling over more often than an old Golden Retriever.
1 Nissan 350Z
Type: Two-door sports car, midsize
Nissan's iconic Z-car has a terrible record of people dying while behind the wheel. For whatever reason, accidents are twice as likely to end in a fatality as a Corvette, and twice as likely to roll, too. All come equipped with ABS and stability control, so hard to point the finger there. Perhaps an owner base that enjoys travelling sideways too much?
http://autos.ca.msn.com/editors-picks/gallery.aspx?cp-documentid=29156678
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有，但贴出来意义不大。都是中年男开的巨大型车（吉普，Van, SUV）和大型豪车（Mercedes-Benz E-Class 4Matic， Audi A6 ）。
The bread-and-butter Accord is the only non-luxury, non-German sedan in the top 20 safest vehicles on the road。
