看了新闻我太气愤了，这bus司机什么玩意儿啊？

[mooncake]

新华社CFC专稿：这个帖子说明，绝大多数人并不在乎客观事实的全部真相，而是以自己的主观印象来和部分事实验证，然后迅速得出符合自己主观印象的结论，并强烈地表达自己的主观愿望。这些人给那些企图搞乱社会秩序的别有用心的一小撮制造了可乘之机。
只有少数能够保持冷静并积极寻找事实真相，作出客观评论。只有这些人，才是能够带领CFC从一个胜利走向另一个胜利的坚实领袖。


大家为村长和老何热烈鼓掌。

 

[GYGY]

真不敢相信还会有这种事。看来以后在哪把娃的手都要抓紧。

 

[ccc]

真不敢相信还会有这种事。看来以后在哪把娃的手都要抓紧。

必须滴！～

 

[某某]

One comments left on that ottawa citizen article:


ncawarrior68

9:11 AM on 6/28/2012

It is a shame that hysteria like this comes out. I was part of the investigation regarding this incident. The call to police was a 3rd party call, no call or contact was made to or from a parent, I repeat no child was ever reported detached from parent or missing. The operator of the bus states 1 pssgr came to him saying possibly a child was separated from it's parent. No parent approached the driver. The driver made the right decision not to stop the bus on the transitway, it would have been (were it true) faster to get back to Iris Stn from Baseline Stn on a bus, than walking back to Iris if dropped half way.
Are we not forgetting who would be responsible were this story to be true? How come you're 6 year old child is off the bus and you as a parent are not? That's a bad parent, not a bad bus driver.

Read more: http://www.ottawacitizen.com/Little...stop+witness/6850675/story.html#ixzz1z5thbub9

Another comment questioning the above poster's authenticity:


steve_ca
9:28 AM on 6/28/2012

@incawarrior68: You said, "I was part of the investigation regarding this incident." The article says that "...Ottawa police would only say they were looking into a matter involving an OC Transpo bus and a young girl...". And "A spokesman for the City of Ottawa...said Wednesday night he had no confirmed information that matched such an incident." So how could you have investigated this incident.


Read more: http://www.ottawacitizen.com/Little...stop+witness/6850675/story.html#ixzz1z6ApvrZs

 

[某某]

这就我为什么说要＂淡定＂，也是我想说没敢说的：家长为什么不带好孩子，让孩子离开自己？

事件在调查中，等等再说吧。

家长有没有责任是一桩事情，司机在这种情况下不作出合适的对应是另一桩事情。
两者没有关联。
这次孩子是安然无恙找到了。万一孩子被坏人拉走出事了，你还能这么淡定地支持司机么？

 

[heureux]

BHawkins

9:41 AM on 6/28/2012

Incawarrior68, the 94 is often, especially at rush hour.. completely packed. It is much easier for a 6 year old to slip through a crowd than a grown adult, and sometimes those side doors close faster than we can manage to exit. I have been on the bus plenty of times when people haven't been able to make it to the exit before the doors close on them and they are forced to wait for the next stop. They did not have children in tow. It does not take a bad parent to find themselves in that situation.

As for the lack of report by the parent, perhaps they didn't have a cell phone. I am sure this parent was completely beside themselves, if indeed, this story is factual.

I am not sure what you're getting at when you say there was no girl to be found, when the article states that at 6:30PM the girl in question was found safe and sound by the police.

Read more: http://www.ottawacitizen.com/Little...stop+witness/6850675/story.html#ixzz1z6CZ7P4C

 

[ccc]

家长有没有责任是一桩事情，司机在这种情况下不作出合适的对应是另一桩事情。
两者没有关联。
这次孩子是安然无恙找到了。万一孩子被坏人拉走出事了，你还能这么淡定地支持司机么？

家长有责任，两者有关联，而且这事情本不该发生。

事件在调查中，任何结论都为时过早。

我没有支持司机，我哪里说他是否有责任了。一个硬币有两面，你说的是一个硬币的一面，我说的是同一个硬币的另一面而已。

 

[某某]

家长有责任，两者有关联，而且这事情本不该发生。

事件在调查中，任何结论都为时过早。

无论家长和孩子是在什么情况下分离开的，当时这个妈妈要求立即下车，以便立即和女儿团聚。请问这个要求合不合情，合不合理？
我们可以说，这个司机对母女的分开没有责任。但是当这个分离已经发生，有多位乘客告知他，并要求他立即让母女团聚的时候，他就有责任了！他对母女团聚的发生有责任！作为一个公交司机，他有责任保证乘客的安全。

 

[westmont]

气愤归气愤，还是等官方的调查结果吧。

 

[ccc]

无论家长和孩子是在什么情况下分离开的，当时这个妈妈要求立即下车，以便立即和女儿团聚。请问这个要求合不合情，合不合理？
我们可以说，这个司机对母女的分开没有责任。但是当这个分离已经发生，有多位乘客告知他，并要求他立即让母女团聚的时候，他就有责任了！他对母女团聚的发生有责任！作为一个公交司机，他有责任保证乘客的安全。

别那么激动。

你在场么，你知道当时公交车行进在哪里么？你知道司机什么时候才明白发生了什么么？

乘客随时随地想下车，司机就得停车让他下？乘客被其他车辆撞死，谁的责任？

"作为一个公交司机，他有责任保证乘客的安全。"

 

[heureux]

根据这篇文章，孩子丢在 Iris 车站了，车子继续往前开，前方是 BASELINE。



这个是车站，和路况

 

[uglyducking]

别那么激动。

你在场么，你知道当时公交车行进在哪里么？你知道司机什么时候才明白发生了什么么？

乘客随时随地想下车，司机就得停车让他下？乘客被其他车辆撞死，谁的责任？

"作为一个公交司机，他有责任保证乘客的安全。"

村长蛋定，妈妈们的心情是可以理解滴。那个司机是有点儿过了。那个路边有biking path的，行人应该没有危险。

 

[某某]

别那么激动。

你在场么，你知道当时公交车行进在哪里么？你知道司机什么时候才明白发生了什么么？

乘客随时随地想下车，司机就得停车让他下？乘客被其他车辆撞死，谁的责任？

"作为一个公交司机，他有责任保证乘客的安全。"

俺的确不在场:blowzy:
但是目击者说那地方有sidewalk可以安全走回去。
目击者也说司机态度很差。

http://www.cfra.com/?cat=1&nid=87196

Multiple reports suggest an OC Transpo driver separated a mother from her daughter in the city's west end on Wednesday.
...
...
According to passengers on board the route 94 bus, the mother repeatedly tried to get off the bus, but the driver refused until he pulled up to a stop on Baseline Road, a few kilometres from Iris Street.

Repeatedly! 我就不信司机没搞懂。难道司机比所有乘客的智商都低，搞不清这么简单的一个情况？

 

[ccc]

俺的确不在场:blowzy:
但是目击者说那地方有sidewalk可以安全走回去。
目击者也说司机态度很差。

http://www.cfra.com/?cat=1&nid=87196


Repeatedly! 我就不信司机没搞懂。难道司机比所有乘客的智商都低，搞不清这么简单的一个情况？

Multiple reports suggest an OC Transpo driver separated a mother from her daughter in the city's west end on Wednesday.
...
...
According to passengers on board the route 94 bus, the mother repeatedly tried to get off the bus, but the driver refused until he pulled up to a stop on Baseline Road, a few kilometres from Iris Street.

村长蛋定，妈妈们的心情是可以理解滴。那个司机是有点儿过了。那个路边有biking path的，行人应该没有危险。

这里，看不到司机是否明白她为什么要下车。如果司机只以为她错过了站，自然须等到下一站了。

加拿大人行事是很教条的，以避免法律责任。

谁知道公交公司的条条框框，说说看。

 

[heureux]

哎，我估计会拿锤子砸窗户。---咱村的车有锤子的吧？我印象有哈。让你丫的再开。