吵翻天啊!加拿大"基本收入"正式通过参议院二读!

傻逼卡泥要大赦难民,加拿大的钱用不完啊。
全民基本收入是靠谱的,应该确立个基数,公民发100%,移民发80%,难民免谈,残疾人可以酌情发100% - 200%,其他一切福利取消,想要过好日子,找个工作先
为啥公民100%, 移民80%?交税的时候没这个差别吧?难道不应该按交税的比例发钱么? :evil:
 
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楼上好几个人说了基本正确,很长的路要走。一时半会儿不会到这一步

二读通过也是给各方都给个面子和台阶而已。各方对各自的选民和支持者其实都有交代和应付。
 
加拿大参议院确实于11月6日在二读中通过了《S-206号法案》,正式迈出建立“全民可维生基本收入(Guaranteed Livable Basic Income)”的第一步。

楼上好几个人说了基本正确,很长的路要走。一时半会儿不会到这一步

二读通过也是给各方都给个面子和台阶而已。各方对各自的选民和支持者其实都有交代和应付。

参议院不是民选的,相当于政协,没啥实权。
说好听是老头老太们参政议政,说实话,狗屁都不算
 
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参议院不是民选的,相当于政协,没啥实权。
说好听是老头老太们参政议政,说实话,狗屁都不算

你对议会两院的理解不充分。

AI Overview

Canada's Parliament is a bicameral legislature with two chambers: the elected House of Commons and the appointed Senate. The House of Commons is the lower chamber, where Members of Parliament (MPs) are elected to represent constituents and debate bills, while the Senate is the upper chamber, with senators appointed to provide "sober second thought" and review legislation, represent regional interests, and investigate issues. Both chambers must pass a bill for it to receive Royal Assent and become law.

House of Commons
  • Structure: The lower chamber of Parliament, with 343 elected Members of Parliament (MPs).
  • Role: Most bills originate here; MPs debate, vote on, and study bills. It is also where the government must maintain the confidence of the majority to stay in power.
  • Representation: Based on population, with MPs representing different electoral districts across the country.
  • Key feature: Contains "Question Period," where the opposition can challenge the government.

Senate
  • Structure: The upper chamber, with 105 appointed senators.
  • Role: Reviews legislation passed by the House of Commons, proposing amendments or rejecting bills as a check on the government. Senators also introduce their own bills (except those involving taxes or spending) and conduct committee studies on important national issues.
  • Representation: Based on regional representation, with a distribution designed to give each region equal representation.
  • Appointment: Senators are appointed by the Governor General on the advice of the Prime Minister. They hold their position until age 75.

How they work together
  • Both chambers must pass identical versions of a bill for it to proceed to the next stage.
  • A bill passed by both the House of Commons and the Senate becomes law after receiving Royal Assent from the Governor General or a representative of the Crown.

 
加拿大现在约4000万人,每人每月
-发100,年总金额480亿
-发200,年总金额960亿
-发500,年总金额2400亿
-发1000,总金额4800亿
-发2000,总金额9600亿

一月2000,可能勉强可以活得下去

加拿大2025-26联邦预算好像不到5000亿
同学们,都躺平吧。我老先躺为敬!
 
这种钱肯定是有一定限制,比如年收入超过多少就没有,或者按收入多少扣除百分比,没有收入的满足基本生存需求,给找不到工作的年轻人一条活路
 
哈哈,韭菜还是太幼稚,把这当成EI牛奶金这样的福利了。这所谓UBI都是老总理智慧玩烂的梗了。搞这个就是为数字身份和数字货币铺路,为以后精准拿捏韭菜作准备
 
这种钱肯定是有一定限制,比如年收入超过多少就没有,或者按收入多少扣除百分比,没有收入的满足基本生存需求,给找不到工作的年轻人一条活路
年轻人?看看现在超市里的工作人员,没几个本地年轻人,都他妈烙印和戴头巾的,多少白人父母在脸书上抱怨自己孩子找不到工作。跟food bank一样,肯定会被大量钻空子的,妈的辛辛苦苦工作,就养一堆狼
 
你对议会两院的理解不充分。

AI Overview

Canada's Parliament is a bicameral legislature with two chambers: the elected House of Commons and the appointed Senate. The House of Commons is the lower chamber, where Members of Parliament (MPs) are elected to represent constituents and debate bills, while the Senate is the upper chamber, with senators appointed to provide "sober second thought" and review legislation, represent regional interests, and investigate issues. Both chambers must pass a bill for it to receive Royal Assent and become law.

House of Commons
  • Structure: The lower chamber of Parliament, with 343 elected Members of Parliament (MPs).
  • Role: Most bills originate here; MPs debate, vote on, and study bills. It is also where the government must maintain the confidence of the majority to stay in power.
  • Representation: Based on population, with MPs representing different electoral districts across the country.
  • Key feature: Contains "Question Period," where the opposition can challenge the government.

Senate
  • Structure: The upper chamber, with 105 appointed senators.
  • Role: Reviews legislation passed by the House of Commons, proposing amendments or rejecting bills as a check on the government. Senators also introduce their own bills (except those involving taxes or spending) and conduct committee studies on important national issues.
  • Representation: Based on regional representation, with a distribution designed to give each region equal representation.
  • Appointment: Senators are appointed by the Governor General on the advice of the Prime Minister. They hold their position until age 75.

How they work together
  • Both chambers must pass identical versions of a bill for it to proceed to the next stage.
  • A bill passed by both the House of Commons and the Senate becomes law after receiving Royal Assent from the Governor General or a representative of the Crown.


这个不能从字面上理解。英式议会传统中,上院主要是一个咨询机构,否议会决议的情况极为罕见。这就象国王有很多权力,实际上是不能使用的。说到底,下院是民选的。一旦国王或上院用手中的权力和代表民意的下院做对,政治后果难以预料
 
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“只要年满17岁、在加拿大居住,就有资格”

这么宽松?特么纳税的拿钱就算了,凭什么只要居住就有资格?
要的效果就是纳税的养不纳税的,让不纳税的有尊严。
 
这种钱肯定是有一定限制,比如年收入超过多少就没有,或者按收入多少扣除百分比,没有收入的满足基本生存需求,给找不到工作的年轻人一条活路
那样结果就是大量在快餐店,咖啡店,超市,大部分零售业工作的人不去上班了,拿基本收入补助,因为工作的税后收入可能也多不了多少,不工作拿钱多爽
 
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