真是抢钱呀! property tax...年年涨

[sillycat]

是...俺几年前跟他们官司了一回,弄降了4-5万, 也不知道卖的时候影响不影响, 管不了那么多了.

您这算好的,十来年前也过去和政府比划了一回让人一板砖拍回来了.:blowzy:各位发完牢骚赶紧准备支票麻溜给政府送去,谁敢抗税不交下场一准好不了.

 

[lifeisfun]

I don't like seeing the increase on my property tax bill either, and I don't appreciate the extra burdens imposed onto residents because of years' of mismanagement at City Hall, e.g., the sky-shot water fee for sewage upgrade, green bin, etc.



Nevertheless, I am not too concerned about property tax, because it accounts for only a very small portion of all taxes I pay each year, while the municipal services are more closely related to our day-to-day life and the community. Using a particular service or not, you benefit from it directly or indirectly. For example, people using public transportation help to make the roads less busy for drivers; social housing keeps people off street and make the community more balanced and "harmonized".



For an average double-income family, if their total tax obligation is made of 10 portions, I guess municipal tax probably is only 1 of the 10, provincial accounts for 3, and the federal takes the rest 6. If I look at the areas of responsibilities for these 3 levels of government, I would rather pay a higher proportion to the local government, and be more conservative at the federal level.



http://www.parl.gc.ca/About/Parliament/SenatorEugeneForsey/touchpoints/touchpoints_content-e.html



Anyway, this is what makes Canada the way it is.

If you pay 5000 property tax, and it is 1/10 of the total tax you pay, do you mean you pay 50,000 tax in total?



The main point is not to avoid your contribution to this society, and I have no problem to contribute to this society. The issue is the more tax you paid, the more money these governments will waste. The list of such waste examples is not short, from health premium, e-health, to OCtranspo ......



The more money we paid, the government will have more money to play with, the union will have more to play with, in the end, you will contribute to the growth of bureaucracy and lazy working force. Greece is such an example.

 

[ccc]

查了一下, 同比涨幅在0.8-1.8%, 还行么?

行!

 

[uestcca101]

Ottawa市政府过于庞大，需要瘦身。

 

[ccc]

个人减肥都那么难，何况一政府。（似乎有３００多经理。）

 

[URL]

If you pay 5000 property tax, and it is 1/10 of the total tax you pay, do you mean you pay 50,000 tax in total?

I agree $50,000 total tax sounds a bit too high for a regular family, but it's not out of whack if you count in income tax and sales tax. We are talking about what a double-income family here, who can afford a $500K house.

Just a bit exercise: For the family that can afford a $500K house, apply the 3-time rule of thumb (3 times of gross income = the house price one can afford), the household income may be around $160K/year. Taxable income may be at $130K (split by two), the average tax rate on this income level would be ~24%, that's $30K. With the $100K take-home money, if they spend $80K, then it's $10K on sales tax, plus $5K property tax, that's $45K all tax paid.

I agree with your argument on taxation in general. I just have a bit different feeling on various taxes we have to pay.

 

[ccc]

If you pay 5000 property tax, and it is 1/10 of the total tax you pay, do you mean you pay 50,000 tax in total?
....

A lot of couples pay $50,000 in tax a year, plus HST. You do the math. :flaming:

 

[xiange]

A lot of couples pay $50,000 in tax a year, plus HST. You do the math. :flaming:

交的税跟俺挣的差不多. 这就谁呀? 羡慕嫉妒恨.

 

[ccc]

交的税跟俺挣的差不多. 这就谁呀? 羡慕嫉妒恨.

那是说夫妻两人（一家）交纳的税 -- 个人所得税（包括EI／CPP）＋ 房地产税。然后，买东西和服务很多收HST（汽油还有省税、联邦税）吧？

就是说，很多人的实际购买力只是你收入的55-60%左右。

 

[lifeisfun]

A lot of couples pay $50,000 in tax a year, plus HST. You do the math. :flaming:

Could be, Paying about 45,000-50,000 a year for income tax, the family or individual income would be around 150,000 I guess.

But I guess we did not consider HST here, which is a bit hard to predict.

 

[NANAKO]

这房子都得卖65万了。偷着乐吧。

有价无市～～

 

[ccc]

有价无市～～

3,000-3,200尺的房子，就是这价在卖。是否有市，关键是看地点了。

 

[ccc]

Could be, Paying about 45,000-50,000 a year for income tax, the family or individual income would be around 150,000 I guess.

But I guess we did not consider HST here, which is a bit hard to predict.

For a couple, a $150,000 family income is very possible. The deductions could be less if they had more than one kid.

 

[shemozhuben]

按照Robert的标准，自住房是liability，不是asset，很多人认为自住房是自己最大的“asset“.

 

[ccc]

按照Robert的标准，自住房是liability，不是asset，很多人认为自住房是自己最大的“asset“.

可以是asset，那就是晚年先把它变成钱，分给子女或者消费掉。