小学四年级以前取消gifted program

[9981]

我多论多的同学的孩子们一个星期六天晚上是满的。两年前过来玩， 我在开车给他们做导游， 我同学就在让他儿子心算二十几乘三十几。 算出来爷俩一起兴奋。

哦， 我同学就是投行的， 呵呵

 

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我多论多的同学的孩子们一个星期六天晚上是满的。两年前过来玩， 我在开车给他们做导游， 我同学就在让他儿子心算二十几到三十几。 算出来爷俩一起兴奋。

哦， 我同学就是投行的， 呵呵

总得有劳有逸吧。

一个人是否是个天才，基因决定了至少50%。看看自己是个啥德性再去推孩子。

 

[LifeIsBeautiful]

绝大多数的孩子都在正态分布的区间 天才和蠢材都是极少数。哪有那么多天才 还不是很多情况都是资质不差的孩子家长抓得紧 习惯养成的好 发现孩子兴趣启发的及时。天才当然有 很可惜 绝大多数人的娃都不是。

总算看到了一个明白人。

 

[yoyo321]

绝大多数家长不这么认为。

大多数家长都清楚自己的孩子是不是天才，所以才抓紧培养孩子良好习惯，及时发现孩子的兴趣特长，尽力将孩子送进天才班，让自己轻松一点。现在取消天才班，他们仍会继续努力将不是天才的孩子培养得像个天才。我挺佩服她和他们的。同时我觉得愿意加倍努力弥补智力不足的孩子有吃苦耐劳的天赋，也是天才的一部分。

 

[ccc]

大多数家长都清楚自己的孩子是不是天才，所以才抓紧培养孩子良好习惯，及时发现孩子的兴趣特长，尽力将孩子送进天才班，让自己轻松一点。现在取消天才班，他们仍会继续努力将不是天才的孩子培养得像个天才。我挺佩服她和他们的。同时我觉得愿意加倍努力弥补智力不足的孩子有吃苦耐劳的天赋，也是天才的一部分。

尽力将孩子送进天才班

就送上了成功之路?

 

[wangmayou]

绝大多数家长不这么认为。

都觉得自己的娃才是天才。

 

[ccc]

都觉得自己的娃才是天才。

考不进去/学校不收，我找医生去。

 

[wangmayou]

大多数家长都清楚自己的孩子是不是天才，所以才抓紧培养孩子良好习惯，及时发现孩子的兴趣特长，尽力将孩子送进天才班，让自己轻松一点。现在取消天才班，他们仍会继续努力将不是天才的孩子培养得像个天才。我挺佩服她和他们的。同时我觉得愿意加倍努力弥补智力不足的孩子有吃苦耐劳的天赋，也是天才的一部分。

很同意“愿意加倍努力弥补智力不足的孩子有吃苦耐劳的天赋，也是天才的一部分。” 努力的孩子智力即使不突出但也不会差。

 

[yoyo321]

尽力将孩子送进天才班

就送上了成功之路?

努力了不一定成功，不努力一定不成功。

 

[lililulu]

但是普通班的要求也确实太低了。俺娃一年级已经上了两月了，还在数数，这不bored都不行啊。我觉的不是这个program的问题，是老师的问题。老师的水平不行，只会导致整体学生水平的下降。即使是giftprogram孩子都给教成没gift了。
那些鼓吹取消physholigist的考试的人，你们上网查查，phycokogist的考试只会比ccat更严。他们的测试其实更全面一些。

 

[ccc]

努力了不一定成功，不努力一定不成功。

谁努力?　

家长努力的结果是:　有的孩子推进高中就再也推不上去了，因为之前已经开足马力了，没有潜力了；有的孩子推进大学后也抛锚或者搁浅，同理。

不是推得越给力孩子的成绩就越好、将来就越成功。

孩子的培养是门大学问。

千万别期待孩子去实现自己没有实现的梦想。

 

[小地主]

尽力将孩子送进天才班

就送上了成功之路?

gifted 是不是就是high achiever，这个真不好说。。。
由于基本没有应试的压力，西方教育扬长不错，但基本是弃短而不是补短。。这也与东方的教育理念有冲突。。
进了gifted specialized program是不是如同自认酒鬼的trustee Balckburn在Citizen上说的是家长BS的资本？我只能说她是井底之蛙，做教育委员不合格。。。

有时真正的天才是孤独的甚至是disruptive。。I knew this young chap mentioned below, and he is shining in the gifted program..

"My son, at the age of 3 started reading on his own, we were shocked, but didn't think much about it since he was our first and we didn't have any experience with giftedness and/or anything of this nature at the time. We only noticed the real issues when he started JK. We started him in the Catholic Board, because we are catholic and both went to catholic School. It was a nightmare to say the least. He became very aggressive, violent, distructive and the calls and notes from the School on a daily basis were shocking. He hated School and was miserable to say the least. He was a 4 year old that made comments that he "wanted to kill himself". Seriously? What 4 year old says this? He had a baby sister, and would lash out on her after School (the positive is, she is one tough cookie now!). The teachers had NO answers for me, they just said he is impulsive and lashes out for "no reason". I had a few parents of gifted kids urge me to look into giftedness, that this may be the answer. When I started researching everything was to the "T"! So I asked the Resource teacher if she feels he may be gifted, her response "he's to young, and we need to repair the behavioural issues before we could even explore that avenue.". This was in May (almost the end of the School year) and I knew right then and there that I had to pull him out. It was bitter sweet, because some of my friends had children there, and I had high hopes that they would grow up together and enjoy each others company, but by this point, not one student wanted to be his friend anymore. The damage was done. He was "that kid" and never in my wildest dreams could I have predicted that would happen.

I found out that the Public board did testing for SK. So I approached our public School and asked them if they could help my son. I told them all the issues we were having and their LST was very supportive (God Bless Her!). She promised that if he went to that School she would observe and perform the testing on him for giftedness. (I might add that in the 35 or so years that she was an LST, she had never done testing at the SK level - this was a very rare case!). He went to the School, they did the testing in October, he passed the CCAT with 12/12 & got 99.9% on other tests. They did the PM Benchmark reading and comprehension test, and he completed the entire test up to level 30 (Grade 6 I believe). They knew at this point, they could not accomodate him and he needed the CGP. In the meantime, he was in a SK play based learning environment, isolated in the corner with earphones doing advanced math worksheets and reading dinosaur dictionaries. There was no one he could relate to, and he felt that something was very wrong with him because everytime he'd open his mouth kids would roll their eyes at him or turn away. It was heart breaking to witness. This was a complete eye opener. I will admit I was one of those people who thought being "Gifted" was just smart. I had no idea how many issues it could cause. The School fought for DDD and did everything within the new criteria to get him into the CGP, and I am very grateful they did. He started at JYES in Grade 1. I have to say now in grade 2, he has blossomed into a very handsome and amazing young boy. He has matured so much, never fights me to go to School anymore (even when he is sick!) and got invited to a few birthday parties for the first time! he has friends, is enjoying life more and speaks up more as well. The program has been a blessing for us, I have no idea what would happen if he went back into a reg. classroom. I know it would depend heavily on the teacher and staff, has he aquired all the skills he needs (know that he has calmed down) to be integrated? Of course, the craziest part of all of this is now My husband and I are left wondering, how did we end up with a child like this? And it makes us look at our own Schooling experiences and the many challenges we faced. We turned out ok, but could we have turned out better if we were steered in the right direction? This is why I am avocating for my DS. I want to make sure he enjoys life, gets the satisfaction he craves from learning and does whatever he wants in life - right now he wants to be a paleaontologist!"

 

[今天]

大多数家长都清楚自己的孩子是不是天才，所以才抓紧培养孩子良好习惯，及时发现孩子的兴趣特长，尽力将孩子送进天才班，让自己轻松一点。现在取消天才班，他们仍会继续努力将不是天才的孩子培养得像个天才。我挺佩服她和他们的。同时我觉得愿意加倍努力弥补智力不足的孩子有吃苦耐劳的天赋，也是天才的一部分。

家长应该学习一下儿童心理和孩子一起成长才是正道，不要和别人比，每个孩子天资，生活环境，家庭背景等等决定每个孩子都是独一无二得，如果你都多花点时间精力陪伴了解孩子（把用微信聊天的功夫匀点时间陪孩子看看书）比什么都强，更有利于家长发现孩子得长处和爱好，发现的早，孩子得可塑性就大点。 大人偷懒，幻想交给学校，可能吗，谁能比你了解你的孩子，12岁前多用点心，青春期后你就省心

 

[黑色晚装]

谁努力?　

家长努力的结果是:　有的孩子推进高中就再也推不上去了，因为之前已经开足马力了，没有潜力了；有的孩子推进大学后也抛锚或者搁浅，同理。

不是推得越给力孩子的成绩就越好、将来就越成功。

孩子的培养是门大学问。

千万别期待孩子去实现自己没有实现的梦想。

我承认我是个很努力的妈妈，因为她一年级结束的时候连16-9都不会算。之前我从来没有做过任何的辅导，全交给了老师。我甚至没有教过她一首唐诗，就凭她的兴趣玩了。可是，当她一年级结束了，那么简单的减法都不会的时候，我想，该是我努力的时候了。后来，假期的时候，我给她恶补数学，如今，已经颇见成效。

是的，就像9981一样，上学路上我们牵着手，教她背乘法口诀，回家先布置口算题，然后再讲应用题。然后会讲一两篇文学欣赏的美文，也许是诗歌，也许是儿歌，也许是童话。课外的班也都没有落下。

不是推，也不期望自己的梦想让她实现，但是，你必须承认，任何社会都是分层次的。我只希望把她培养成一个有选择权的人，而不是一个被命运摆布的人。比如一个蛋糕师，她若是自己选择做蛋糕，那么一定是心情畅快的，而若只能做蛋糕，整个生活就是灰暗的。很多时候，人们说，心态最重要，其实，是没有能力选择，被迫低头而已。

 

[GYGY]

家长应该学习一下儿童心理和孩子一起成长才是正道，不要和别人比，每个孩子天资，生活环境，家庭背景等等决定每个孩子都是独一无二得，如果你都多花点时间精力陪伴了解孩子（把用微信聊天的功夫匀点时间陪孩子看看书）比什么都强，更有利于家长发现孩子得长处和爱好，发现的早，孩子得可塑性就大点。 大人偷懒，幻想交给学校，可能吗，谁能比你了解你的孩子，12岁前多用点心，青春期后你就省心

是的，其实我也觉得孩子教育, 家庭的作用很重要
我觉得那些特殊的program肯定是有好处的，但如果只为了追求那些特殊教育而放弃太多生活中的一些其它东西也没必要至少我不会这样选择。。。除非孩子自己强烈追求，否则孩子家长来回奔波应付的时间和精力，我情愿孩子坐下来多读本书，多看场球赛看场演出，多参加些文体和社交活动，多和我说说话。。。当然我也会给孩子布置家庭作业，哈哈。。。
以孩子上了什么大学就来作为成功和幸福的终点标准，还为时有点早。。。。家庭对孩子的影响其实贯穿孩子的一生, 大过学校的影响。。。。