精华 渡江“侦察”记（星期六11：30渡江）
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Message from marine officer
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As a Police Marine Search and Rescue officer, I would recommend a few things. First I would suggest wetsuits for all swimmers. Secondly, you should have 1 canoe or kayak for each swimmer. Two canoes for six swimmers is simply not enough. If for some unknown reason someone gets separated from the group, your resourses can get spread very thin, very quickly. Also have at least one motor boat. Have an extra life jacket in each canoe in case a swimmer gets in trouble. They can always put it on in the water. Have each swimmer wear a brightly coloured swim cap so that they are easily visible to everyone on the water.
Finally, an most importantly, contact the local authorities (ie: police) and advise them of the plan, with times, dates, etc. That way, if there is any problem, they can be prepared to assist.
Good Luck
Gord Keen
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I swam across the Ottawa River in Pembroke just a few weeks ago in an organized fundraiser for The Children Snowsuit Fund. There were about 15 swimmers. I believe this swim has been happening for 20 years... single or double crossing (2.5k or 5k)
Suggestions:
1. Start early in the morning... water is usually calmer. You will also have to think about the current.
2. Wetsuit is a good idea, but I did not use one. The weather the weekend I did my swim was good and the water was warm due to our warm summer.
3. It would be a good idea for each swimmer to have there own safety boater (kayaker, canoe or row boat). We also had one motorboat and an OPP Boat.
We had a calm day, but there were stories of past swims where the swells were so high the canoes and kayak needed to be rescued. I have done other swim crossings with motor boats nearby and the fumes are not that enjoyable. A Seadoo could be another option.
MY HORROR STORY
I used to do this ocean swim in Indonesia (near Singapore) 2-3 friends and a Sea doo for safety. The first few times we did the swim, it was easy... 2.5km in less than 40 min from the resort to a tiny island. So we had a great idea. Lets get the tri gang to join us. Well, 11 intermediate to strong swimmers, 1 motorboat and a seadoo just did not cut it. The currents were different than our past swims. There were biting sea snakes and stinging jelly fish. Lets call it PANIC! We all needed to be rescued after almost 2hours and still not at our island. Once we all got on the motorboat, we nearly sank it. Ever since, I do not take any chances when I am in the open water. I always bring my own safety boater.
Good luck in your swim across the Ottawa. DO NOT TAKE ANY CHANCES! If I lived closer I would love to join in! Happy Swimming!
Katrina
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As a Police Marine Search and Rescue officer, I would recommend a few things. First I would suggest wetsuits for all swimmers. Secondly, you should have 1 canoe or kayak for each swimmer. Two canoes for six swimmers is simply not enough. If for some unknown reason someone gets separated from the group, your resourses can get spread very thin, very quickly. Also have at least one motor boat. Have an extra life jacket in each canoe in case a swimmer gets in trouble. They can always put it on in the water. Have each swimmer wear a brightly coloured swim cap so that they are easily visible to everyone on the water.
Finally, an most importantly, contact the local authorities (ie: police) and advise them of the plan, with times, dates, etc. That way, if there is any problem, they can be prepared to assist.
Good Luck
Gord Keen
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I swam across the Ottawa River in Pembroke just a few weeks ago in an organized fundraiser for The Children Snowsuit Fund. There were about 15 swimmers. I believe this swim has been happening for 20 years... single or double crossing (2.5k or 5k)
Suggestions:
1. Start early in the morning... water is usually calmer. You will also have to think about the current.
2. Wetsuit is a good idea, but I did not use one. The weather the weekend I did my swim was good and the water was warm due to our warm summer.
3. It would be a good idea for each swimmer to have there own safety boater (kayaker, canoe or row boat). We also had one motorboat and an OPP Boat.
We had a calm day, but there were stories of past swims where the swells were so high the canoes and kayak needed to be rescued. I have done other swim crossings with motor boats nearby and the fumes are not that enjoyable. A Seadoo could be another option.
MY HORROR STORY
I used to do this ocean swim in Indonesia (near Singapore) 2-3 friends and a Sea doo for safety. The first few times we did the swim, it was easy... 2.5km in less than 40 min from the resort to a tiny island. So we had a great idea. Lets get the tri gang to join us. Well, 11 intermediate to strong swimmers, 1 motorboat and a seadoo just did not cut it. The currents were different than our past swims. There were biting sea snakes and stinging jelly fish. Lets call it PANIC! We all needed to be rescued after almost 2hours and still not at our island. Once we all got on the motorboat, we nearly sank it. Ever since, I do not take any chances when I am in the open water. I always bring my own safety boater.
Good luck in your swim across the Ottawa. DO NOT TAKE ANY CHANCES! If I lived closer I would love to join in! Happy Swimming!
Katrina
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For those who are interested in long distance swim
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If all you're looking for is a long swim, Meech Lake is your best bet.
There are many mapped swims including Blanchette beach to O'Brien beach at almost 4km. It's got calm water, no motorized boats, and if you go at the right time of day dozens of other people out there doing the same thing.
One could swim between the beaches following the shore-line and it would be perfectly safe. Stash your shoes on the way out and then run back to your car!
http://www.zone3sports.com/meech.htm
If you simply want to swim across the Ottawa river, a location farther
upstream from the rapids is probably a good idea.
Mark
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If all you're looking for is a long swim, Meech Lake is your best bet.
There are many mapped swims including Blanchette beach to O'Brien beach at almost 4km. It's got calm water, no motorized boats, and if you go at the right time of day dozens of other people out there doing the same thing.
One could swim between the beaches following the shore-line and it would be perfectly safe. Stash your shoes on the way out and then run back to your car!
http://www.zone3sports.com/meech.htm
If you simply want to swim across the Ottawa river, a location farther
upstream from the rapids is probably a good idea.
Mark
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Message from another Ottawa River swim crosser
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I read your question on Tri Rudy today. I have swam across the Ottawa and back up in Dun Robin. It was a lot of fun.
If you have canoes I think you will have a good level of safety (especially if they are experienced). If you could also have a motor boat that would add to the level of satety. The reason being - it is hard to keep everyone together and thus can the two canoes cover everyone (a motor boat can get to people faster).
I found that there were many boats out there. Make sure everyone wears a bright bathing cap (yellow or red should do). THIS IS MANDATORY.
Those are me two cents worth.
Take care and enjoy the swim.
Barry
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Yes, we swam from the Ontario side to the Quebec side and then back. I believe it was 20-25 minutes one way. We had different levels of swimmers.
We were all going to swim together but that never happens because of the skill levels of the swimmers. Our slowest swimmer was probably 30 minutes one way.
Yes, we were guided by a motor boat/row boat (I believe it was a row boat with a motor). There is a launching place in Dun Robin at the beach.
I really believe in the safety aspect of swimming.
Thus, the boat or boats are a good idea. This way when the group separates you can have the boats keeping an eye on different people. Trust me you will separate.
You and your friends will love the swim.
Good luck on the weekend and let me know how it goes.
Barry
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I read your question on Tri Rudy today. I have swam across the Ottawa and back up in Dun Robin. It was a lot of fun.
If you have canoes I think you will have a good level of safety (especially if they are experienced). If you could also have a motor boat that would add to the level of satety. The reason being - it is hard to keep everyone together and thus can the two canoes cover everyone (a motor boat can get to people faster).
I found that there were many boats out there. Make sure everyone wears a bright bathing cap (yellow or red should do). THIS IS MANDATORY.
Those are me two cents worth.
Take care and enjoy the swim.
Barry
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Yes, we swam from the Ontario side to the Quebec side and then back. I believe it was 20-25 minutes one way. We had different levels of swimmers.
We were all going to swim together but that never happens because of the skill levels of the swimmers. Our slowest swimmer was probably 30 minutes one way.
Yes, we were guided by a motor boat/row boat (I believe it was a row boat with a motor). There is a launching place in Dun Robin at the beach.
I really believe in the safety aspect of swimming.
Thus, the boat or boats are a good idea. This way when the group separates you can have the boats keeping an eye on different people. Trust me you will separate.
You and your friends will love the swim.
Good luck on the weekend and let me know how it goes.
Barry
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甩手掌柜做总结性发言：
关于地点的选择：
选择Britannia Bay横渡，有利也有弊。不好的方面是靠近急流。好的方面是人和船下水都方便，最有利的是本人对这块水域极其熟悉，其次是紧急情况下可以利用沙滩的救生员和救生设施。为了消除急流的影响，横渡线路选用折线。Britannia Bay由急流往上基本呈喇叭状，喇叭口就象同学们说的，只有几百米宽，但往上游一点点就达到了一千五百米宽。一般的河道流速分布是个曲线，岸边流速低，中间流速高。而流速高的河道中心部分由于喇叭状河道的作用，往上游流速衰减得非常快。如果横渡线路采用折线，基本不会遇到有流速的河段，也就是不会有被冲到急流中去的危险。
关于时间的选择：
时间将尽量选择在上午，但不能太早于沙滩救生员上班的时间。这样做一是为了避开水上交通繁忙的时间，二是上午起风起浪的概率小。
关于救生艇和救生员的安排：
6个人横渡，最少要三条Canoe。每条Canoe上最多坐一个人（救生员），其余空座留给横渡人员。大家对Canoe的救援能力不放心是很正常的。很多事都是第一次让人恐慌，但经过第一次以后就好了。Canoe Rescue也是一样，看一次示范大家就会做了。PT就在LAC LA PECHE被示范过一次。大家可以问问他看从水里爬上Canoe难不难。
我们大家要等待的是一个时间窗口，水温高于25度，风速低于10公里每小时。
关于地点的选择：
选择Britannia Bay横渡，有利也有弊。不好的方面是靠近急流。好的方面是人和船下水都方便，最有利的是本人对这块水域极其熟悉，其次是紧急情况下可以利用沙滩的救生员和救生设施。为了消除急流的影响，横渡线路选用折线。Britannia Bay由急流往上基本呈喇叭状，喇叭口就象同学们说的，只有几百米宽，但往上游一点点就达到了一千五百米宽。一般的河道流速分布是个曲线，岸边流速低，中间流速高。而流速高的河道中心部分由于喇叭状河道的作用，往上游流速衰减得非常快。如果横渡线路采用折线，基本不会遇到有流速的河段，也就是不会有被冲到急流中去的危险。
关于时间的选择：
时间将尽量选择在上午，但不能太早于沙滩救生员上班的时间。这样做一是为了避开水上交通繁忙的时间，二是上午起风起浪的概率小。
关于救生艇和救生员的安排：
6个人横渡，最少要三条Canoe。每条Canoe上最多坐一个人（救生员），其余空座留给横渡人员。大家对Canoe的救援能力不放心是很正常的。很多事都是第一次让人恐慌，但经过第一次以后就好了。Canoe Rescue也是一样，看一次示范大家就会做了。PT就在LAC LA PECHE被示范过一次。大家可以问问他看从水里爬上Canoe难不难。
我们大家要等待的是一个时间窗口，水温高于25度，风速低于10公里每小时。
GroundZero
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The weather does not look too good. A thunderstorm is forecasted. We may need to hold off the swim until next summer. We will swim more in the pool then.
The weather does not look too good. A thunderstorm is forecasted. We may need to hold off the swim until next summer. We will swim more in the pool then.
Any progress? Please take me in, any time, when you have training or discussing together. I can swim more than 2 hours in water.
George
wooxun@rogers.com
1 416 317 0618
George
wooxun@rogers.com
1 416 317 0618
